[TV] Agents of Shield

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Wed May 04, 2016 10:34 pm

Agent Carter never clicked with me. As for Most Wanted, I have even less of a desire for that.

msteelers · Post by **msteelers** » Thu May 05, 2016 6:52 am

I enjoyed Agent Carter, but missed season 2. We plan on watching it whenever it hits Netflix. I'm curious about Most Wanted and Damage Control, but I'm not exactly excited about either.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Thu May 05, 2016 4:57 pm

So...couple of things bugging me about Agents of Shield. Small, really. But I've been curious about them nonetheless.

1) When did Fitz's brain heal from the damage it acquired at the end of the first season? For a while there, that was a pretty huge plot line for him. Now he seems to perfectly fine again. Is he like the Daffy Duck of Shield? If Hive hits him with a stick of dynamite, will he turn ash black for a few seconds, then be fine in the next scene?

2) How exactly is Daisy/Skye a "highly trained agent of Shield" (as Coulson called her in the last episode) after only being a member for a few years? I would've assumed that that kind of designation would require more than just basic training.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Thu May 05, 2016 5:06 pm

Fitz's recovery was gradual. There was no Eureka-save-the-day moment where he was back to normal. Which is probably a lot more realistic than having some random crisis "snap" him out of it.

msteelers · Post by **msteelers** » Thu May 05, 2016 5:43 pm

And Daisy has been a bad ass field agent for awhile now. It felt like they skipped over her training, but some of their better action sequences have been with her. Add in Quake powers and she is easily the most dangerous member of the team.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Thu May 05, 2016 6:07 pm

Isgrimnur wrote:Fitz's recovery was gradual. There was no Eureka-save-the-day moment where he was back to normal. Which is probably a lot more realistic than having some random crisis "snap" him out of it.

But I could've sworn that they explicitly stated after the trauma happened that he would never recover from it fully. That he had suffered irreversible brain damage

rshetts2 · Post by **rshetts2** » Thu May 05, 2016 6:40 pm

regarding Daisy, they have stated several times that after Grant Ward ( her original training officer, she has been training since day 1 with SHIELD ) Coulson placed her with May. They really havent shown her training much but its there in the background, plot wise.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Thu May 05, 2016 7:54 pm

Per one of the wikis, Fitz had aphasia as a result of the incident. Per real-world sources, it improves over time, especially with therapy.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Thu May 05, 2016 7:58 pm

And if you want more detail than you know what to do with, go here.

Hyena · Post by **Hyena** » Fri May 06, 2016 12:26 pm

hepcat wrote:
Isgrimnur wrote:Fitz's recovery was gradual. There was no Eureka-save-the-day moment where he was back to normal. Which is probably a lot more realistic than having some random crisis "snap" him out of it.
But I could've sworn that they explicitly stated after the trauma happened that he would never recover from it fully. That he had suffered irreversible brain damage

I also think they used it representing the trauma he went through with Simmons "leaving the team". He would hallucinate seeing her, speaking with her, etc. and that would help calm him. When she came back to the team, it "healed" him afterwards, and then she was lost to him again in the teleport stone. That gave him focus to get her back, and it kinda just...healed. So in a way it represents that without her, he's not really complete. You know, real subtle-like.

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Fri May 06, 2016 8:11 pm

Odin wrote:Agent Carter's a pretty decent show. It's a shame that it didn't get better ratings.

I feel we should be happy we got more stories for Agent Carter. Thanks to the series we actually have more hours of her then Captain America. I love the character but 2nd season story line didn't work for me. I think it is great we got back story with some great characters and now it is time to move on.

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Fri May 06, 2016 8:13 pm

So is Hydra really gone this time? After the last episode I am wondering where this is all heading.

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Fri May 06, 2016 8:32 pm

Mixed emotions on the episode. Is Hydra really finally gone this time? This is like the 2nd or 3rd time that has been said. I do love that the show likes to burn through its characters. The death count for the show must be enormous by now.

I feel like this episode is a turning point for Skye (will never call her Daisy). She was about to kill Mack. She was pissed he killed the Kree and took it out on him. It seems like now she is willing to side with the Inhumans all the way and that means with Hive.

I also feel like Hive's back story was interesting but I pretty sure he left a LOT of things out. He alluded to other original Inhumans and Civil War thousands of years ago. Where did those original Inhuman's go? Are they the ones that banished Hive to the desert planet? That story lines seems to be where we are heading. And, they mention Dethlock but he is a no show? Is he how in space or something?

However, I feel like by the season's end S.H.I.E.L.D. as an organization will not exist. I think the show and Colston's story arc needs to end. It's been a good run and fleshed out a ton of the Marvel Universe but S.H.I.E.L.D. is not equipped to battle the Inhumans.

Arcanis · Post by **Arcanis** » Sat May 07, 2016 10:54 pm

Scoop20906 wrote:Mixed emotions on the episode. Is Hydra really finally gone this time? This is like the 2nd or 3rd time that has been said. I do love that the show likes to burn through its characters. The death count for the show must be enormous by now.

I feel like this episode is a turning point for Skye (will never call her Daisy). She was about to kill Mack. She was pissed he killed the Kree and took it out on him. It seems like now she is willing to side with the Inhumans all the way and that means with Hive.

I also feel like Hive's back story was interesting but I pretty sure he left a LOT of things out. He alluded to other original Inhumans and Civil War thousands of years ago. Where did those original Inhuman's go? Are they the ones that banished Hive to the desert planet? That story lines seems to be where we are heading. And, they mention Dethlock but he is a no show? Is he how in space or something?

However, I feel like by the season's end S.H.I.E.L.D. as an organization will not exist. I think the show and Colston's story arc needs to end. It's been a good run and fleshed out a ton of the Marvel Universe but S.H.I.E.L.D. is not equipped to battle the Inhumans.

They are doing a variation of the Secret Warriors. It was a team of supers lead by Fury. Well now it is a team of inhumans lead by Colston. I'm thinking all of this with Inhumans is working on laying the ground work for the Inhumans movie, whenever that arrives now that it has been bumped to unknown release date. Dethlock is out there running around working for Shield, they brought him in early this season maybe end of last season. They just have to reference him enough to keep him tied to them or he may end up in Infinity War too and be lost to the big screen.

DD* · Post by DD* » Sun May 08, 2016 12:15 pm

Just rewatched Avengers and realized that the guy doing most of the talking for the World Security Council (that wanted to nuke NYC) was Gideon Malick

. Very cool.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Thu May 12, 2016 10:32 pm

ABC says thanks, but no thanks:

After weeks of conflicting reports, leaving fans to wonder what would become of Marvel’s Most Wanted, the Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. spin-off set to star Bobbi Morse (Adrianne Palicki) and Lance Hunter (Nick Blood), the network has apparently passed on the series.

Rip · Post by **Rip** » Thu May 12, 2016 10:37 pm

Isgrimnur wrote:ABC says thanks, but no thanks:

After weeks of conflicting reports, leaving fans to wonder what would become of Marvel’s Most Wanted, the Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. spin-off set to star Bobbi Morse (Adrianne Palicki) and Lance Hunter (Nick Blood), the network has apparently passed on the series.

Sounds like it is time to disdisavow them.

Odin · Post by **Odin** » Thu May 12, 2016 10:38 pm

As much as I like Agents of SHIELD, I have to confess I never mustered any enthusiasm for the spin-off. I'm mildly interested in the rumored sit-com about guys who clean up after the Avengers bust up the place. That could be fun, if it ever happens.

msteelers · Post by **msteelers** » Fri May 13, 2016 6:58 am

I hope they bring Bobby and Hunter back to Agents of Shield. I wasn't excited for the spin off, but I was still sad to see them go.

rshetts2 · Post by **rshetts2** » Fri May 13, 2016 8:53 am

If they could have made Marvels Most Wanted more about spy capers and less about superheros I would have watched for sure. TV needs a good spy series and I thought these two worked well together in a Mr and Mrs Smith kind of way. Hopefully AOS can re-avow Bobbie and Hunter, I thought they were good for the show.

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Tue May 17, 2016 9:48 pm

I'm going to go ahead and assume a time change to 10pm on Tuesdays isn't a good sign.

Speaking to press today, ABC president Channing Dungey said SHIELD's move to a later timeslot will allow them "to go a little bit edgier, go a little darker and take some risks." However, she said the shift was "less about moving SHIELD to 10 and more feeling we had a big bench of comedies. The schedule kind of fell into place in that way."

DD* · Post by DD* » Wed May 25, 2016 11:07 pm

Just watched the finale and thought it was pretty solid. Hopefully on to a new plot line and Grant is gone for good. Question - did Coulson say "we have to ask the Director" right at the end? If so, I wonder who the new boss is...

Hrothgar · Post by **Hrothgar** » Thu May 26, 2016 1:57 am

DD* wrote:Just watched the finale and thought it was pretty solid. Hopefully on to a new plot line and Grant is gone for good. Question - did Coulson say "we have to ask the Director" right at the end? If so, I wonder who the new boss is...

Yes, that's what he said and clearly implied that he would have to follow those orders. Gee, could they have been a little more subtle with ending? Mad scientist, who must have survived the Ultron incident, is downloading his AI with the voice of GlaDOS and is named A(i)da into a Life Model Decoy. This will end well. I'm surprised they didn't reveal his username as Victor.Frankenstein.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Fri Jul 22, 2016 11:39 pm

ComicCon

Gabriel Luna (“True Detective,” “Matador”) will roar into the lives of Agent Coulson and the team, as Robbie Reyes the unstoppable Ghost Rider, which was revealed today at Comic-Con International in San Diego.

DD* · Post by DD* » Sat Jul 23, 2016 12:14 am

Isgrimnur wrote:ComicCon

Gabriel Luna (“True Detective,” “Matador”) will roar into the lives of Agent Coulson and the team, as Robbie Reyes the unstoppable Ghost Rider, which was revealed today at Comic-Con International in San Diego.

Sounds like they might be moving away from the all-inhumans all the time plot lines. That would be good thing.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Sun Jul 24, 2016 2:09 pm

Rip · Post by **Rip** » Sun Jul 24, 2016 2:52 pm

Who is Agent Cousin?

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Fri Jul 29, 2016 5:05 pm

Palicki gets a new show:

The Friday Night Lights and Agents of SHIELD alum is set to star opposite Seth MacFarlane in his upcoming live-action space dramedy, The Hollywood Reporter has confirmed.

The untitled series is set 300 years in the future and centers on Orville, an exploratory ship in Earth's interstellar fleet. Facing cosmic challenges both internal and external, the motley crew of space explorers aboard Orville will go where no series has gone before.

Palicki will play Kelly Grayson, the newly appointed First Officer of Orville who also happens to be the ex-wife of Orville captain Ed (MacFarlane). In addition, voice actor Scott Grimes (Family Guy) has joined the project as Gordon, Ed's best friend who is tapped to pilot the Orville.

The hourlong series, which MacFarlane also created and will exec-produce, landed a straight-to-series 13-episode commitment at Fox in May. The comedic drama is set for the 2017-18 TV season, with a pilot to be filmed later this year. The series will mark MacFarlane's live-action TV acting debut, following his big screen western comedy, 2014's A Million Ways to Die in the West.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Tue Sep 13, 2016 12:53 pm

Ah heck yeah...

I'm still a Johnny Blaze kind of guy, but I like where they're going with this. I'm guessing they're using GR to bring mysticism into the Marvel Universe before Doctor Strange destroys the box office.

Post by **ImLawBoy** » Tue Sep 13, 2016 12:54 pm

I have no idea what to expect here. This just seems like such an odd turn for the show.

WarPig · Post by **WarPig** » Tue Sep 13, 2016 1:01 pm

I wonder if the schism of Fox owning the mutants portion of the MCU is making Marvel Studios look in seemingly random places for content. I do agree that the inclusion of GR does lead well into the mysticism aspect, though I don't know how or if they will try to tie that in with the current Inhumans characters and storylines. Agreed, no idea what to expect for a whole season.

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Tue Sep 13, 2016 1:01 pm

He can't be a regular or part of the SHIELD team. I'm thinking he might be a part of Sky's group. Maybe the use him like Deathlocke and he gets three episodes a year.

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Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Tue Sep 13, 2016 1:02 pm

And I'm guessing we get the inevitable street race between the Hotrod and Lola.

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hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Tue Sep 13, 2016 1:07 pm

Scoop20906 wrote:He can't be a regular or part of the SHIELD team. I'm thinking he might be a part of Sky's group. Maybe the use him like Deathlocke and he gets three episodes a year.

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I'm guessing he won't be affiliated with anyone. He's the spirit of vengeance. I would be surprised if he wasn't treated that way in the story.

I envision Coulson and the mystery crew crossing paths with him while tracking down the big bad of the season.

I also envision GR handing them their asses.

Yeah, I'm a Ghost Rider fanboy from childhood.

rshetts2 · Post by **rshetts2** » Tue Sep 13, 2016 1:18 pm

Rip wrote:Who is Agent Cousin?

Agent Coulson's father's brother's son?

A nonny mouse · Post by **A nonny mouse** » Tue Sep 13, 2016 1:29 pm

hepcat wrote:Ah heck yeah...

I'm still a Johnny Blaze kind of guy, but I like where they're going with this. I'm guessing they're using GR to bring mysticism into the Marvel Universe before Doctor Strange destroys the box office.

I missed the whole last season of AoS (dropped cable and have to wait for netflix). I loved Ghost Rider, and like Hep, was a fan as a kid. I still have the final GR comic. *sniff.

I sure hope he isn't driving that car, though. fingers crossed they stick with his bike.

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Tue Sep 13, 2016 1:35 pm

Just a thought. I'm so glad they finally put Grant out of his misery. Loved the actor but the character was past the point of interesting long ago.

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hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Tue Sep 13, 2016 1:36 pm

Reyes is another incarnation of the spirit of vengeance, so they're sticking with the car. I'm a purist when it comes to GR, but I think the 12 issue run of the Reyes version was actually pretty good. So if I can't get Blaze, I'll take Reyes.

Scoop20906 wrote:Just a thought. I'm so glad they finally put Grant out of his misery. Loved the actor but the character was past the point of interesting long ago.

What are the odds they bring him back yet again as another character?

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Tue Sep 13, 2016 1:56 pm

A nonny mouse wrote:I missed the whole last season of AoS (dropped cable and have to wait for netflix).

It's been there for months.

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Tue Sep 13, 2016 2:22 pm

Isgrimnur wrote:
A nonny mouse wrote:I missed the whole last season of AoS (dropped cable and have to wait for netflix).
It's been there for months.

Yeah, it hit Netflix like June 15.