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Post by Grifman » Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:05 pm

Episode 8 kills it in so many ways. Damn that ending!
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Post by Grifman » Sat Oct 27, 2018 3:20 am

Wow is all I can say. That was one damn fine season of TV. They really killed it with this season. Twists and turns, emotional highs and lows, just a great season. I really don’t know how they can top this one. Loved every minute of it.
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Post by JCC » Sat Oct 27, 2018 9:30 am

I have only watched this on the 2 Fridays it's been available and have finished 7 episodes. So far this is by far the best season of Daredevil, and this might even supplant Jessica Jones season one as my favorite Netflix Marvel season when it's all over. Looking back I think binge watching season 1 and 2 of Daredevil back to back (I didn't watch DD until after I watched JJ season 1) was a mistake as I had plenty of character fatigue (especially Karen and Foggie). Everyone just seems more likeable now after a break. The show is SO MUCH BETTER with Fisk as the only proper villain and not bogged down with the Hand and other distractions. Fisk is so awesome. They must never, EVER kill Fisk off. There are many logic holes with the whole "Fisk in the hotel" thing, but the story is so awesome, I just can't get worked up over it.

I remain worried about the future of Marvel series, and I really hope they bring Danny, Colleen, and Luke back somehow. But, DD season 3 has been just fantastic halfway though!!

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Post by stimpy » Sat Oct 27, 2018 11:36 pm

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Episode 8 kills it in so many ways. Damn that ending!
Not sure if I missed something, but just finished episode 8 and didn't think it was anything special....
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Post by hepcat » Thu Nov 08, 2018 1:53 pm

Almost done with Daredevil Season 3 and it's still the best season so far in my opinion. I breezed through episode 10 last night...

...and by breezed, I mean I fast forwarded through every single minute of Karen's backstory and just watched the last 10 minutes.

I did not want that much background on that character.
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I actually really enjoy Foggy & Karen on DD. I think they bring a nice balance to the show. Dont get the foggy & Karen hate. Finished DD 3 the other day and I have to concur that it was pretty damn awesome. Kingpin is great. The actor's rendition is just amazing I find. The way he glares and just kind of grunts his way at times. There is the mixture of menace and tenderness sometimes is amazing. Really fantastic work. Hats off to the actor there.
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I actually really enjoy Foggy & Karen on DD. I think they bring a nice balance to the show. Dont get the foggy & Karen hate. Finished DD 3 the other day and I have to concur that it was pretty damn awesome. Kingpin is great. The actor's rendition is just amazing I find. The way he glares and just kind of grunts his way at times. There is the mixture of menace and tenderness sometimes is amazing. Really fantastic work. Hats off to the actor there.
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I actually really enjoy Foggy & Karen on DD. I think they bring a nice balance to the show. Dont get the foggy & Karen hate. Finished DD 3 the other day and I have to concur that it was pretty damn awesome. Kingpin is great. The actor's rendition is just amazing I find. The way he glares and just kind of grunts his way at times. There is the mixture of menace and tenderness sometimes is amazing. Really fantastic work. Hats off to the actor there.
I like Foggy a great deal. Karen not so much.

Vincent D'onofrio has become the signature Kingpin, in my opinion. Some people thought he was too quiet and calm, but I thought that was perfectly in line with someone who is supposed to be a master manipulator. You can see why people trust him...up until he betrays them.
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I like Foggy a great deal. Karen not so much.
I haven't watched S3 yet, but I absolutely agree. So far two of my favorite characters in any of the Netflix Marvel shows have been Foggy and Ward. I think both actors have done outstanding jobs giving their characters depth, humanity, and realism.

Karen had some great moments early on. Some of the reporter stuff. But she became a little too much when she was all over the place in Punisher.
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Post by Ralph-Wiggum » Thu Nov 29, 2018 11:25 pm

Netflix has canceled Daredevil. Daredevil was the best Marvel series IMO, so it seems safe to assume the remaining two series will be canceled after their next seasons as well.


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Post by Zaxxon » Thu Nov 29, 2018 11:27 pm

There's only one left, right? JJ?

Cage, Fist and Defenders are all gone already.

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Duh. Thanks.

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Post by hepcat » Fri Nov 30, 2018 8:26 am

I’m pretty sure they’ll cancel Punisher and JJ soon. It appears we’re looking at a complete breakdown in the Marvel/Netflix relationship.
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Post by Smoove_B » Fri Nov 30, 2018 8:39 am

On the whole, it was a good run. I do think we're completely saturated with TV options. I can't even keep up with the Marvel movies, much less these TV shows - as great as they (mostly) are. Sometimes it feels like if I spent 4 hours a day in front of a TV I might be able to catch up on everything in about a year. It feel odd to complain about the wealth of options we've had, but at some point there are only so many hours in a day.

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On the whole, it was a good run. I do think we're completely saturated with TV options. I can't even keep up with the Marvel movies, much less these TV shows - as great as they (mostly) are. Sometimes it feels like if I spent 4 hours a day in front of a TV I might be able to catch up on everything in about a year. It feel odd to complain about the wealth of options we've had, but at some point there are only so many hours in a day.
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At least a dozen superhero shows running at the same time, no wonder. And unfortunately for me, the first two I tried watching (Arrow and Iron Fist) were a huge disappointment. I guess I better try some of the other, higher rated ones before they actually disappear from Netflix (forever?), much less be canceled. Way, way upthread we had a discussion about my chagrin with both of those, and some of you kind souls pointed me in supposedly better directions (Luke Cage, JJ, and one other I think).

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Post by msteelers » Fri Nov 30, 2018 8:56 am

I knew this was coming, so it’s not as much of a shock as the Iron Fist and Luke Cage cancellations. Plus, I’m fine with where Daredevil ended, as opposed to the endings for the other series. Especially Luke Cage.

Still, Charlie Cox was so good as Daredevil. It’s a shame to lose that.

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Post by coopasonic » Fri Nov 30, 2018 10:52 am

On the plus side, I should finally be able to catch up on Marvel's Netflix serieses... still 2.5 seasons behind.
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I knew this was coming, so it’s not as much of a shock as the Iron Fist and Luke Cage cancellations. Plus, I’m fine with where Daredevil ended, as opposed to the endings for the other series. Especially Luke Cage.

Still, Charlie Cox was so good as Daredevil. It’s a shame to lose that.
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Post by Hyena » Fri Nov 30, 2018 2:56 pm

Disney is going to do one of two things: as posted earlier, they will be moved to the Disney stream, or they will be put into movies.

What I'm (impossibly, I'm sure) hoping for is that they will free them up to start the movie franchise's next phase. MCU is populated with real humans who, while getting paid very well, either are unwilling or unable to continue the role of a super hero. So, bring in the next crop of actors and run with them for the next decade.

Or until people stop forking over billions of dollars to re-live their childhood heroes on the silver screen.
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Disney is going to do one of two things: as posted earlier, they will be moved to the Disney stream, or they will be put into movies.
I think the titular heroes from the Netflix Marvel shows had a fairly decent run so I'm somewhat ambivalent about whether the actors playing them reprise their roles. But I certainly hope Disney is able to put Vincent D'Onofrio's Kingpin to good use in other MCU movies/series. He's the best 'supervillain' yet put to screen by far and, as terrific as it was, it'd be an awful shame if the third season of Daredevil is the last we see of him.
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But it’s also kind of the perfect ending for his character.
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But it’s also kind of the perfect ending for his character.
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True.

But D'onofrio was so damn good, I'd definitely be interested in seeing him reprise the role again.
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Post by Smoove_B » Thu Jan 03, 2019 12:48 pm

S2 of The Punisher is coming on 1/18/19



I'm expecting them to announce it's cancelled on 1/19.

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And I can find nothing to confirm that they are officially adopted by police or military units. At best, they're morale patches.
The most recent adoption by a police agency (that made the news and that I'm aware of) is here. Not surprisingly, once it went public they were ordered to remove it. You can read about the military's relationship with the Punisher here. It's also a logo that's seemingly been adopted by the Three Percenters as well, which is just gross.

As a fan of the comics, it's one of the reasons I wouldn't ever wear a shirt or hat with that logo - it's taken on a new meaning.
I'm glad the creator shared his thoughts recently in this interview, just ahead of S2 coming:
What are your thoughts on the Punisher symbol being co-opted by police or the military?

I've talked about this in other interviews. To me, it's disturbing whenever I see authority figures embracing Punisher iconography because the Punisher represents a failure of the Justice system. He's supposed to indict the collapse of social moral authority and the reality some people can't depend on institutions like the police or the military to act in a just and capable way.

The vigilante anti-hero is fundamentally a critique of the justice sysytem, an eample of social failure, so when cops put Punisher skulls on their cars or members of the military wear Punisher skull patches, they're basically sides with an enemy of the system. They are embracing an outlaw mentality. Whether you think the Punisher is justified or not, whether you admire his code of ethics, he is an outlaw. He is a criminal. Police should not be embracing a criminal as their symbol.

It goes without saying. In a way, it's as offensive as putting a Confederate flag on a government building. My point of view is, the Punisher is an anti-hero, someone we might root for while remembering he's also an outlaw and criminal. If an officer of the law, representing the justice system puts a criminal's symbol on his police car, or shares challenge coins honoring a criminal he or she is making a very ill-advised statement about their understanding of the law.

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Official S2 Trailer:



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Post by Hyena » Sat Jan 12, 2019 1:23 am

Yeah I'll be watching that.
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Post by Isgrimnur » Sat Jan 12, 2019 2:48 am

I need to get caught up. I guess it’s as much Jessica Jones as I can handle tomorrow.
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Post by hepcat » Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:23 am

You could just skip JJ if you'd like. It really doesn't connect to any of the other shows in any meaningful way beyond the introduction of Luke Cage in season 1.
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Post by Hyena » Sat Jan 12, 2019 1:56 pm

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You could just skip JJ if you'd like. It really doesn't connect to any of the other shows in any meaningful way beyond the introduction of Luke Cage in season 1.
Agreed. JJ is my least favorite. She's just not a likeable character. I know shes not really supposed to be, she's got the whole antihero thing going on, but...meh.
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Post by JCC » Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:32 pm

Jessica Jones season 1 is fantastic and not to be missed. Jessica Jones season 2 was awful. Take a big pass on that one for now. It may end up being worth watching if season 3 redeems the show.

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Post by hepcat » Sun Jan 13, 2019 9:58 pm

I thought they’d cancelled JJ season 3, but I guess it made it in under the wire. I’m sure it will get axed before season 4 is announced though. I don’t think we’ll see any Marvel properties on Netflix in the future.
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I thought they’d cancelled JJ season 3, but I guess it made it in under the wire. I’m sure it will get axed before season 4 is announced though. I don’t think we’ll see any Marvel properties on Netflix in the future.
Yeah JJ #3 was well into production when the axes started to fall. It's pretty much assumed if not guaranteed JJ #3 will be the final Marvel original series on Netflix.

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Post by stimpy » Thu Jan 24, 2019 4:37 pm

Yep.....I thought the same thing about Punisher S2......
oh wait.....no one else has posted........
well that about sums it up......horrible.
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Post by JCC » Sat Jan 26, 2019 10:19 am

I haven't gotten around to Punisher season 2 yet. I'm just watching other things right now. So you say it's horrible? I heard initally good things and then steadily worse since its release. Too many reviews have spoilers so I am afraid to research it too much. I liked season 1 more than I expected to. Too bad if the sophmore slump hit Punisher too. I am still bummed at Netflix axing all of these shows even if I understand their (speculated) reasons. I really hope JJ season 3 will send these shows out with a bang and atone for the putrid second season.

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Post by hepcat » Sat Jan 26, 2019 12:57 pm

I don’t think it’s horrible. But it isn’t must see tv. I do love the action grunt from Bernthal in every fight.
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Post by $iljanus » Sat Jan 26, 2019 2:44 pm

hepcat wrote:I don’t think it’s horrible. But it isn’t must see tv. I do love the action grunt from Bernthal in every fight.
Unlike the hero of a recently canceled Marvel show, Bernthal does do a great job committing violence and mayhem.
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Post by hepcat » Sat Jan 26, 2019 3:13 pm

He'd make a great replacement Wolverine.
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