Something happen
Something in town
Oh yeah the news
I said something in town
Ebola
Ebola in town
Don't touch your friend!
No touching
No eating something
It's dangerous!
Ebola
Ebola in town
Don't touch your friend!
No kissing!
No eating something
It's dangerous!
I woke up in the morning
I started hearing people dem yelling
"Da what thing happen? What thing happen? Ma peekin' what thing?"
They sit down grab me
They say something in town
Frisky!
That thing that in town it quick to kill
That me scary-o
E-B-O-L-A
Ebola. Ebola in town.
I started yelling.
I started running.
What place I will go?
I go to Guinea.
I went everywhere.
Ebola. Ebola there.
I'm not going anywhere.
I'm right here.
I'm not going nowhere-o.
I'm right here.
I know the medicine.
That distant hugging
I said distant shaking
Distant kissing
Don't touch me!
Something in town-oh
Something in town-eh
Ebola.
Ebola in town.
It's dangerous-o.
Ebola is very wicked.
It can kill you quick quick.
Be careful how you shaking hands-o.
Be careful who you touch.
Ebola is more than HIV/AIDS.
It can kill you quick quick.
It can kill you fast fast.
Don't touch your friend.
Don't touch your friend.
I say it will kill you-o.
My pa Jehovah
Please save us from Ebola
Nowhere to go
Nowhere to hide
And I ain't come in town
My people, ya'll please take time
Take time before you get that disease
Don't overlook it
That thing it quick to kill
Na na na na. Ebola - o.
It's dangerous.
Don't take it for joke
My people, I saw it before
It coming too fast
Be on the safe side, you hear me?
Ebola.
If you like the monkey
Don't eat the meat
If you like the baboon
I said don't eat the meat
If you like the bat-o
Don't eat the meat
Ebola in town.
Apparently it's actually been very effective in educating people.
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The Article wrote:Christian Althaus of the University of Bern in Switzerland just released a grim new calculation of the RO for this epidemic that finds that when the outbreak began in Guinea, it was RO = 1.5, so each person infected one and a half other people, for a moderate rate of epidemic growth. But by early July, the RO in Sierra Leone was a hideous 2.53, so the epidemic was more than doubling in size with each round of transmission. Today in Liberia, the virus is spreading so rapidly that no RO has been computed.
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If we are, we losing. People I respect are throwing out estimates suggesting that by Xmas, we could be looking at quarter of a million people infected in Africa. That is...mind blowing.
I read some official prediction somewhere of 77,000 deaths by the end of the year. If the virus evolves a more transmissible form -- which becomes ever more likely as it colonizes more and more humans -- this could become The Big One.
I think Rip's "war" question referred to sending 3,000 US troops.
Rip wrote:Should be interesting to hear where the person contracted it. It should be entertaining if it was an illegal immigrant who came across the border.
Don't you go changing - stay just the way you are. I would have awarded you extra points if you worked the Affordable Care Act in there somehow.
They were traveling from Liberia and returned here a week ago - no signs or symptoms until they were admitted to the ER last night. Now watch as we unfurl our tendrils and begin the investigation....
Now imagine that you live in the same metro area as the case.
Now imagine that you were on the ambulance crew that transported him.
The Dallas Fire-Rescue ambulance crew who transported the man infected with Ebola to the hospital has been quarantined according to the City of Dallas.
The City of Dallas said Tuesday that the crew took all safety precautions and has been quarantined according to Centers for Disease Control and Dallas County Health guidelines.
Wow an unchecked epidemic, (except in Nigeria from an article I've read so that's good news) a long asymptomatic period and access to planes that can travel across oceans. Who would have thought such a thing could happen? I'm shocked...
Black lives matter!
Wise words of warning from Smoove B: Oh, how you all laughed when I warned you about the semen. Well, who's laughing now?
$iljanus wrote:Wow an unchecked epidemic, (except in Nigeria from an article I've read so that's good news) a long asymptomatic period and access to planes that can travel across oceans. Who would have thought such a thing could happen? I'm shocked...
To be fair, even the experts are surprised. All of our understanding about Ebola is pretty much based on outbreaks from 40 years ago. No one truly believed the incubation period would stretch out long enough to allow people the ability to travel via cab or bus (or now plane) without being spotted. Historically, they assumed illness followed shortly after exposure and that a person would be too debilitated to travel. Now that we know that's not the case, everything changes. It could be that we're dealing with a different subtype of Ebola or that overall the health of people in Africa (or the urban areas) is much better -- so that instead of that 2 day incubation period, we're now on the other end (14+ days).
Quarantine and Isolation are the best tools we have. When used properly, there's nothing to worry about.
That's an interesting theory about the improved health being a factor. Makes sense in retrospect. I should do a article search on the ebola sequence differences too.
Your knowledge of semen sounds scientifically intriguing.
Black lives matter!
Wise words of warning from Smoove B: Oh, how you all laughed when I warned you about the semen. Well, who's laughing now?
I was thinking the same thing. Oh hell I'm sure we all were, who am I kidding? On a more serious note. Wouldn't it be a good idea to ban travel from that area for now? I mean holy hell, what if the guy didn't go to the hospital and just wandered around?
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$iljanus wrote:Your knowledge of semen sounds scientifically intriguing.
I live to serve. People surviving a hemorrhagic viral infection up until now has been quite rare. However, one of the last times it happened was a researcher that accidentally injected himself with Marburg in the lab waaaaaay back in 1971. Now, Marburg is a close relative of Ebola (not nearly as deadly), so it's not necessarily the same - but the Marburg virus was still found in his semen 61 days after he recovered. In theory this means people *could* be spreading it via semen after being cured and healthy, but we don't know because survival rates for Ebola historically speaking are terrible (< 10%). But I'm willing to bet for those that have been treated here in the United States, they'll be collecting fluid samples for the next year to see if they're still harboring the virus in any capacity.
Here's another one totally unrelated to viruses, but still semen-tastic: Ciguatera poisoning acquired from eating fish. There have been a few cases where men that have been poisoned passed the poison on to their female partners via sexual intercourse. For reasons unknown, the toxin can apparently accumulate in semen. The men came down with the illness, and then a day or so later, so did the women - and they ate completely different meals. Science is awesome!
Smoove_B wrote: acquired from eating fish. There have been a few cases where men that have been poisoned passed the poison on to their female partners via sexual intercourse.
"Eating fish" is kind of crude, but the point is well taken: dental dams FTW!
I do also question why we (Canada, USA, everyone really) continues to allow air travel in/out of Liberia and other affected nations. I don't believe it will harm the GDP enough to warrant a full ass outbreak.
I'm super stoked about being in Florida next week with tens of thousands of sweaty people at a conference from around the world.. I'm sure it will be fine.
I HATE meetings in Florida. That's usually the place of choice for pharma companies. It's even worse when I'm staying in a Disney resort and have to work while families are running around having fun.
Capitalism tries for a delicate balance: It attempts to work things out so that everyone gets just enough stuff to keep them from getting violent and trying to take other people’s stuff.
$iljanus wrote:Your knowledge of semen sounds scientifically intriguing.
Here's another one totally unrelated to viruses, but still semen-tastic: Ciguatera poisoning acquired from eating fish. There have been a few cases where men that have been poisoned passed the poison on to their female partners via sexual intercourse. For reasons unknown, the toxin can apparently accumulate in semen. The men came down with the illness, and then a day or so later, so did the women - and they ate completely different meals. Science is awesome!
I was just reading about that not too long ago. Sexually transmitted food poisoning!
I'm sure you're fine. Totally unrelated question - how much food and water do you have on hand at home? Could you maybe hang out indoors for say...21 days?
Smoove_B wrote:I'm sure you're fine. Totally unrelated question - how much food and water do you have on hand at home? Could you maybe hang out indoors for say...21 days?
Seriously - we have our best men on this. Right now they're tracing contacts and starting to circle the wagons. It's not a causal contact disease so there's nothing to fear. The people that need to be monitored will be discovered and it will be under control soon enough. That being said, based on what's unfolding in Africa unless they dramatically change course it's likely we'll see it happen again. I'm watching to see what (if any) changes are coming to our 20 some-odd quarantine and isolation stations throughout the U.S. as I would expect travel advisories to be updated based on this.
Octavious wrote:I HATE meetings in Florida. That's usually the place of choice for pharma companies. It's even worse when I'm staying in a Disney resort and have to work while families are running around having fun.
Yeah, they're up to 11 locally acquired cases of Chikungunya in Florida now. Then again, the next update is scheduled for tomorrow so who knows - maybe there are now more?
FishPants wrote:
I'm super stoked about being in Florida next week with tens of thousands of sweaty people at a conference from around the world.. I'm sure it will be fine.
Try working in a casino in Reno for a few years. Everything that is going around anywhere in the world ends up in Reno, especially when you consider that all those folks are skipping sleep, drinking non-stop, and aren't accustomed to the thin atmosphere, all of which saps their resistance.
That said, I'm not too worried about ebola spreading in the US. That sucker is hard to pass on if you aren't living in each others' filth.
Blackhawk wrote:
That said, I'm not too worried about ebola spreading in the US. That sucker is hard to pass on if you aren't living in each others' filth.
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Unless it evolves to go airborne or infect an insect host. Sources tell me that while the virus is merrily mutating away, both of those particular threats are very remote.
$iljanus wrote:Your knowledge of semen sounds scientifically intriguing.
I live to serve. People surviving a hemorrhagic viral infection up until now has been quite rare. However, one of the last times it happened was a researcher that accidentally injected himself with Marburg in the lab waaaaaay back in 1971. Now, Marburg is a close relative of Ebola (not nearly as deadly), so it's not necessarily the same - but the Marburg virus was still found in his semen 61 days after he recovered. In theory this means people *could* be spreading it via semen after being cured and healthy, but we don't know because survival rates for Ebola historically speaking are terrible (< 10%). But I'm willing to bet for those that have been treated here in the United States, they'll be collecting fluid samples for the next year to see if they're still harboring the virus in any capacity.
Here's another one totally unrelated to viruses, but still semen-tastic: Ciguatera poisoning acquired from eating fish. There have been a few cases where men that have been poisoned passed the poison on to their female partners via sexual intercourse. For reasons unknown, the toxin can apparently accumulate in semen. The men came down with the illness, and then a day or so later, so did the women - and they ate completely different meals. Science is awesome!
$iljanus wrote:Your knowledge of semen sounds scientifically intriguing.
I live to serve. People surviving a hemorrhagic viral infection up until now has been quite rare. However, one of the last times it happened was a researcher that accidentally injected himself with Marburg in the lab waaaaaay back in 1971. Now, Marburg is a close relative of Ebola (not nearly as deadly), so it's not necessarily the same - but the Marburg virus was still found in his semen 61 days after he recovered. In theory this means people *could* be spreading it via semen after being cured and healthy, but we don't know because survival rates for Ebola historically speaking are terrible (< 10%). But I'm willing to bet for those that have been treated here in the United States, they'll be collecting fluid samples for the next year to see if they're still harboring the virus in any capacity.
Here's another one totally unrelated to viruses, but still semen-tastic: Ciguatera poisoning acquired from eating fish. There have been a few cases where men that have been poisoned passed the poison on to their female partners via sexual intercourse. For reasons unknown, the toxin can apparently accumulate in semen. The men came down with the illness, and then a day or so later, so did the women - and they ate completely different meals. Science is awesome!
Ah, Marburg. That's one of the classic cases referenced in our biosafety training courses on how to play nicely with syringes in the lab. But they didn't cover the semen part of the story.
The ciguatera info was a nice bonus. Thanks!
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Health officials are closely monitoring a possible second Ebola patient who had close contact with the first person to be diagnosed in the U.S., the director of Dallas County's health department said Wednesday.
All who have been in close contact with the man diagnosed are being monitored as a precaution, said Zachary Thompson, director of Dallas County Health and Human Services.
What a nightmare for those that have been exposed.
Although I guess this was inevitable if flights out of the hot zone are going to continue. It's got a 21 day incubation period so I don't see how you can keep it contained to just Africa if you continue to let people in and out via airplane.
Guess I chose to read this thread because I'm not keeping up with local or global news for that matter. Also wanted to be in awe of Smoove's germ knowledge.
Pretty soon I will be giving my brother's kids condoms for gifts instead of money. Covering those things makes a big difference and is so important. Why it does not happen more often I'll never know. Maybe I'll suggest getting some stock in Trojan for the predicted up coming sales.
"Why do people say grow some balls? Balls are weak and sensitive. If you wanna be tough, grow a vagina. Those things can take a pounding!" - Betty White
Yeah, not surprising at all. I'd actually be amazed if there aren't half a dozen people that end up with it. Really, it depends on what the infamous Patient Zero was doing when they arrived stateside. From the article:
"This is part of routine emergency operations during a health incident in the county. This is same protocol taken during things like flu and tuberculosis cases."
It's true. Thankfully preparedness changed over a decade ago to incorporate a more "all hazards" philosophy. Taking established protocol for things like TB and then expanding it out for other potential problems (like pandemic influezna) was the key. People laughed or told us we were wasting our time, but now those plans are second-nature and part of the training and preparedness activities. Really, the hospital staff deserves special recognition for being on the ball and recognizing the potential early on. So much of our planning and response is focused on front-line hospital staff (1) being aware and (2) actually calling the right people when they see something, I'm impressed it actually worked like it did. At least up here there was significant resistance to that kind of communication when this all started in the late 1990s, but now it's much better. This serves as a perfect example of the system working as designed - at least as far as I can tell from my safe vantage point.
Keep slathering them with love, Smoove. But it's looking more and more like they screwed up plenty, too.
A man who had Ebola but didn't know it walked into a Dallas emergency room September 26. Although his symptoms could have indicated Ebola among other things, no one at the hospital asked him if he had recently traveled, a source close to the case told CNN.
The man, who had just flown from Liberia to the States didn't offer the information either, the source said, and the man left the hospital. A spokesman for Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital says it's investigating whether he was questioned.
Regardless, two days passed between the time the man left and then returned to the facility September 28 where it was determined he likely had Ebola and was isolated. He tested positive Tuesday, health officials said.
Even from watching Scrubs, I know that getting a full and complete history is important. They treated and streeted him, and it wasn't until he came back two days later that he was sick enough that they finally caught it.
I was thinking the same thing. Oh hell I'm sure we all were, who am I kidding? On a more serious note. Wouldn't it be a good idea to ban travel from that area for now? I mean holy hell, what if the guy didn't go to the hospital and just wandered around? 
