RIP, Robin Williams

Paingod · Post by **Paingod** » Wed Aug 13, 2014 11:18 am

If you post it a third time, he'll appear...

rshetts2 · Post by **rshetts2** » Wed Aug 13, 2014 12:37 pm

Saw this over at QT3 and had to bring it here

http://jezebel.com/trolls-bully-robin-w ... 1620658595
How can people be so unbelievable cruel?

silverjon · Post by **silverjon** » Wed Aug 13, 2014 12:41 pm

Forgot the URL tags, link went poof.

rshetts2 · Post by **rshetts2** » Wed Aug 13, 2014 12:43 pm

silverjon wrote:Forgot the URL tags, link went poof.

Thanks for the heads up.

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Wed Aug 13, 2014 12:59 pm

rshetts2 wrote:Saw this over at QT3 and had to bring it here

http://jezebel.com/trolls-bully-robin-w ... 1620658595
How can people be so unbelievable cruel?

God, I hate people sometimes.

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Wed Aug 13, 2014 1:15 pm

Jag wrote:
morlac wrote: " So last night I'm drunk and fucking your daughter and the condom broke." "It wasn't even good sex and I barely remember it" And then I laughed so loud the whole restaurant turned around. I'll never forget the look on her parents faces, it makes me giggle even now. . I got up and left before I got punched by her Dad but funniest part was after that Jennifer could not get enough of me. That's fucked up!

I don't think I would ever have the guts to do that.

I...probably couldn't. But it might have been possible when I was younger. It makes me giggle too, so good job morlac.

It reminds me of the xkcd comic about saying weird shit to the parents of your gf. "I licked your daughter's nipples" comes to mind.

YellowKing · Post by **YellowKing** » Wed Aug 13, 2014 1:40 pm

Unfortunately complete anonymity + kids with no sense of responsibility = recipe for disaster. I have read other stories in the past about people trolling car accident victims' families with actual photos. It's horrible.

Rumpy · Post by **Rumpy** » Wed Aug 13, 2014 1:41 pm

Here's a great heartfelt letter written by Zelda.

Robin Williams's Daughter pens heartbreaking goodbye to her father

tgb · Post by **tgb** » Wed Aug 13, 2014 3:18 pm

YellowKing wrote:Unfortunately complete anonymity + kids with no sense of responsibility = recipe for disaster. I have read other stories in the past about people trolling car accident victims' families with actual photos. It's horrible.

It's not just kids.

Stay classy, Rush.

LawBeefaroni · Post by **LawBeefaroni** » Wed Aug 13, 2014 3:32 pm

tgb wrote:
YellowKing wrote:Unfortunately complete anonymity + kids with no sense of responsibility = recipe for disaster. I have read other stories in the past about people trolling car accident victims' families with actual photos. It's horrible.
It's not just kids.

Stay classy, Rush.

I...um...er...

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Wed Aug 13, 2014 4:07 pm

LawBeefaroni wrote:
tgb wrote:
YellowKing wrote:Unfortunately complete anonymity + kids with no sense of responsibility = recipe for disaster. I have read other stories in the past about people trolling car accident victims' families with actual photos. It's horrible.
It's not just kids.

Stay classy, Rush.

I...um...er...

That has to be one of the worst reversals evar. he's not even trying. I'm surprised he doesn't just start communicating in sound bites. ...leftist druggery....unhappy...suicide...liberal media...out of context...

And to be honest, I didn't find his comments *particularly* offensive. I mean, he says way more hatefilled nonsense every day. Saying Williams killed himself because he was liberal and all liberals are unhappy is stupid as hell, but on the scale of offense, it's pretty low, at least for him.

He's a morAn and should be ignored as such. Well, he's a caricature, and should be ignored as such.

Zaxxon · Post by **Zaxxon** » Wed Aug 13, 2014 4:26 pm

GreenGoo wrote:That has to be one of the worst reversals evar. he's not even trying. I'm surprised he doesn't just start communicating in sound bites. ...leftist druggery....unhappy...suicide...liberal media...out of context...

Like this?

tgb · Post by **tgb** » Wed Aug 13, 2014 5:02 pm

Zaxxon wrote:
GreenGoo wrote:That has to be one of the worst reversals evar. he's not even trying. I'm surprised he doesn't just start communicating in sound bites. ...leftist druggery....unhappy...suicide...liberal media...out of context...
Like this?

Bourbon. It's not just for breakfast any more.

rshetts2 · Post by **rshetts2** » Wed Aug 13, 2014 9:54 pm

Fans petitioned Blizzard to immortalize Robin Williams by making him an NPC in World of Warcraft. Blizzard listened!

http://www.blastr.com/2014-8-12/avid-ga ... -character

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Wed Aug 13, 2014 10:19 pm

a day later and it still feels very surreal.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Thu Aug 14, 2014 2:46 pm

Report coming across the wire that he had the early stages of Parkinson's, per his wife.

Rip · Post by **Rip** » Thu Aug 14, 2014 2:53 pm

Isgrimnur wrote:Report coming across the wire that he had the early stages of Parkinson's, per his wife.

Now that makes a lot more sense. Can totally understand deciding not to live through that.

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Thu Aug 14, 2014 6:26 pm

Smoove_B wrote:He was one of us - named his daughter after a video game character when he became completely enthralled with the Legend of Zelda in the late 1980s.

Whoa. I never knew he was responsible for Sid Meier's name being featured on the games:

Stealey has a different take: “We were at dinner at a Software Publishers Association meeting, and [actor] Robin Williams was there. And he kept us in stitches for two hours. And he turns to me and says ‘Bill, you should put Sid's name on a couple of these boxes, and promote him as the star.’ And that's how Sid's name got on Pirates, and Civilization.”

Carpet_pissr · Post by **Carpet_pissr** » Thu Aug 14, 2014 6:31 pm

JSHAW · Post by **JSHAW** » Thu Aug 14, 2014 7:55 pm

Robin Williams on Louie (Louie CK)

The quote at the end, Wow...very true.

http://vimeo.com/103207581

AWS260 · Post by **AWS260** » Fri Aug 15, 2014 9:37 am

This may have been posted already, but in case it hasn't, here's a great interview with Williams by Marc Maron.

em2nought · Post by **em2nought** » Sun Aug 17, 2014 12:31 pm

Oh Captain! My Captian!

Mr. Fed · Post by **Mr. Fed** » Sun Aug 17, 2014 7:21 pm

Rip wrote:
Isgrimnur wrote:Report coming across the wire that he had the early stages of Parkinson's, per his wife.
Now that makes a lot more sense. Can totally understand deciding not to live through that.

Imagine that you have a disease. Not Parkinson's, another disease.

Because of that disease you are suffering all of the time. It prevents you from being effective at what you do, ruins your relationships, hinders any enjoyment of life. It is at the front of your mind 95% of the day.

Imagine you become very convinced that you're not going to get any better -- that you're going to keep suffering, every day, until it's over.

Imagine that you become convinced your are a burden to your loved ones and make their life worse.

Can you imagine deciding not to live through that?

The disease is depression.

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Sun Aug 17, 2014 8:40 pm

Mr. Fed wrote:
Rip wrote:
Isgrimnur wrote:Report coming across the wire that he had the early stages of Parkinson's, per his wife.
Now that makes a lot more sense. Can totally understand deciding not to live through that.
Imagine that you have a disease. Not Parkinson's, another disease.

Because of that disease you are suffering all of the time. It prevents you from being effective at what you do, ruins your relationships, hinders any enjoyment of life. It is at the front of your mind 95% of the day.

Imagine you become very convinced that you're not going to get any better -- that you're going to keep suffering, every day, until it's over.

Imagine that you become convinced your are a burden to your loved ones and make their life worse.

Can you imagine deciding not to live through that?

The disease is depression.

The best part is that the thing that controls your willpower, your desire to live, to fight, to overcome adversity, to triumph, is the very thing that is diseased. And it keeps telling you to give up.

KKBlue · Post by **KKBlue** » Mon Aug 18, 2014 6:13 pm

JSHAW wrote:Robin Williams on Louie (Louie CK)

The quote at the end, Wow...very true.

http://vimeo.com/103207581

I was laughing so hard at the musical tribute.
Then of course crashed at the last 15 seconds of the clip.
Going down stairs to get another beer

hentzau · Post by **hentzau** » Mon Aug 18, 2014 6:37 pm

Disney Channel ran Aladdin commercial free Saturday night. And at the end they had a splash card that said something like "In Memory of Robin Williams, Who Made Us Laugh."

It destroyed my 14 year old, who grew up with Aladdin.

tgb · Post by **tgb** » Mon Aug 18, 2014 7:42 pm

I can't find the link right now, but latest word from his wife is that he was taking a drug for Parkinson's that had a side effect of suicidal thoughts. That combined with the already existing depression could have pushed him over the edge.

Zurai · Post by **Zurai** » Mon Aug 18, 2014 10:29 pm

A lot of people jumped to conclusions and made asses out of themselves over Robin's suicide, and as more facts come in they look like even bigger assholes than they already did. Of course, they'll never admit it.

Mr. Fed · Post by **Mr. Fed** » Tue Aug 19, 2014 3:25 pm

tgb wrote:I can't find the link right now, but latest word from his wife is that he was taking a drug for Parkinson's that had a side effect of suicidal thoughts. That combined with the already existing depression could have pushed him over the edge.

Parkinson's can trigger depression or make existing depression worse, and some Parkinson's drugs can magnify that effect. Docs are supposed to be really careful easing Parkinson's patients onto drugs if they have any history of depression.

Source: my doc, who explained it to me today when he upgraded me from batshit crazy to bugshit crazy. (I hoped for fucking loco, but one step at a time).

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Tue Aug 19, 2014 3:32 pm

Mr. Fed wrote:Source: my doc, who explained it to me today when he upgraded me from batshit crazy to bugshit crazy. (I hoped for fucking loco, but one step at a time).

Is that really a step up? I would expect the smaller animal to indicate progress in the opposite direction.

Zarathud · Post by **Zarathud** » Wed Aug 20, 2014 7:23 pm

The crazy crowds out the animal. It's the same inverse relationship seen in tiny dogs who bark more loudly.

JSHAW · Post by **JSHAW** » Fri Aug 22, 2014 9:20 am

Henry Rollins pisses off some hollywood celebs with his statements on RW's suicide.

http://www.gossipcop.com/henry-rollins- ... s-suicide/

I understand his point of view, but I doubt he'll be making any new friends with
that viewpoint.

Robin was such a beloved man, I don't think he'll ever know just how many people's lives
he touched with his work.

tgb · Post by **tgb** » Fri Aug 22, 2014 9:28 am

Normally I like and respect Rollins (if you've never seen his show on H2 10 Things You Didn't Know About, you need to start watching it right now) but I read that yesterday and he really comes off looking like an ass.

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Fri Aug 22, 2014 9:40 am

Yeah, I saw Rollins speak in 1994 or 1995 and it quite powerful. I am guessing his statements are coming from the the death of his best friend in 1991 - something that I don't think he'll ever get over. That was actually a large focal point of his speaking engagement when I saw him - how we should all appreciate life because there are so many people that don't have a choice because they are dead. I'm guessing his statements are coming from a place where he can't understand why someone would intentionally take their own life when his friend died for nothing.

In a 1992 Los Angeles Times interview Rollins revealed he kept a plastic container full of soil soaked with Cole's blood. Rollins said "I dug up all the earth where his head fell – he was shot in the face – and I've got all the dirt here, and so Joe Cole's in the house. I say good morning to him every day. I got his phone, too, so I got a direct line to him. So that feels good."[

YellowKing · Post by **YellowKing** » Fri Aug 22, 2014 1:24 pm

Deciding to kill yourself is not a "normal" decision. So to ask someone to make rational thoughts (I probably shouldn't do this since I have kids) about an irrational decision makes no sense. That's what Rollins seems to be failing to comprehend.

Moliere · Post by **Moliere** » Fri Aug 22, 2014 1:34 pm

YellowKing wrote:Deciding to kill yourself is not a "normal" decision. So to ask someone to make rational thoughts (I probably shouldn't do this since I have kids) about an irrational decision makes no sense. That's what Rollins seems to be failing to comprehend.

There are plenty of examples where suicide is a normal and rational decision. A woman in the early stages of dementia wrote

"I can live or vegetate for perhaps 10 years in hospital at Canada's expense, costing anywhere from $50,000 to $75,000 per year. That is only the beginning of the damage. Nurses, who thought they were embarked on a career that had great meaning, find themselves perpetually changing my diapers and reporting on the physical changes of an empty husk. It is ludicrous, wasteful and unfair.... Understand that I am giving up nothing that I want by committing suicide.

I feel the same way. If I know it's coming there is no way I won't take myself out before I get to that stage.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Fri Aug 22, 2014 1:46 pm

Also, his youngest child is 23 and a working director. It's not like he left behind school-age children that will need a change in their care and residence.

LawBeefaroni · Post by **LawBeefaroni** » Fri Aug 22, 2014 2:21 pm

Isgrimnur wrote:Also, his youngest child is 23 and a working director. It's not like he left behind school-age children that will need a change in their care and residence.

This is still trying to apply logic to a decision that was made not as the result of logic but of the result of a disease. He's still leaving behind a huge burden of guilt and regret and a stigma that could affect generations. In terms of mischaracterizing the illness, to absolve him because his kids are adults is effectively no different than blaming him if his kids were younger.

YellowKing · Post by **YellowKing** » Fri Aug 22, 2014 2:21 pm

Do you think he was in a rational state of mind in this instance, though? Maybe, maybe not, but the evidence is there (depression, possibly on Parkinson's drugs that are known to cause suicidal tendencies) that he was not. If there's evidence that he was not, then I think Rollins criticism is short-sighted.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Fri Aug 22, 2014 2:31 pm

LawBeefaroni wrote:
Isgrimnur wrote:Also, his youngest child is 23 and a working director. It's not like he left behind school-age children that will need a change in their care and residence.
This is still trying to apply logic to a decision that was made not as the result of logic but of the result of a disease. He's still leaving behind a huge burden of guilt and regret and a stigma that could affect generations. In terms of mischaracterizing the illness, to absolve him because his kids are adults is effectively no different than blaming him if his kids were younger.

I'm not attempting to absolve him of anything. It's the same misleading stuff we see in these racially-charged shooting thread. The use of the word "kid" puts people in a certain mindset. I have no doubt that his kids will have a long, tough road to deal with their father's choice. I don't minimize it all. But waving the "kid" flag is something that, more and more, as I investigate it, is just a flag to wave to support the speaker's narrative.