HBO remakes Westworld into tv series...Abrams / Nolan

hentzau · Post by **hentzau** » Thu Oct 06, 2016 10:35 am

Yeah, I'm loving it so far. Just watched the pilot last night.

Toe · Post by **Toe** » Fri Oct 07, 2016 7:59 am

I watched it again the other night because the wife fell asleep during the first showing and she wanted to see it and noticed a few things I missed previously. The main being the maze on the scalp that the man in black obtained. I have no idea where they are going with that as it could suggest a lot of things.

Here is the bloody scalp map

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So it could mean...

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Also, I noticed the extra focus on milk moreso this time around. Not sure what is going on there.

And then there is management's secret goal. What could it be? Are they androids trying to establish their independence or just looking to build a super army to take over the world?

Edit to add: Looks like HBO is letting folks watch the 2nd episode now HBO Now, HBO Go, and HBO On Demand (due to the presidential debate on Sunday apparently).

rshetts2 · Post by **rshetts2** » Fri Oct 07, 2016 8:22 am

Or it could just be a circuitry pattern and have no special meaning at all. Seems weird to hide a special maze on the inside of someone's scalp.

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Fri Oct 07, 2016 8:37 am

Isgrimnur wrote:Pilot is available for free.

The second episode is now available to watch for those with HBO Now, Go or On Demand. Apparently there's some type of televised circus on Sunday night that might impact viewership so they're releasing it early?

$iljanus · Post by **$iljanus** » Fri Oct 07, 2016 10:23 am

Smoove_B wrote:
Isgrimnur wrote:Pilot is available for free.
The second episode is now available to watch for those with HBO Now, Go or On Demand. Apparently there's some type of televised circus on Sunday night that might impact viewership so they're releasing it early?

Yeah the "Let's watch Eli throw some more beautiful passes to the other team" circus.

hentzau · Post by **hentzau** » Fri Oct 07, 2016 10:43 am

Toe wrote: Also, I noticed the extra focus on milk moreso this time around. Not sure what is going on there.

I'm thinking that the whole pouring of milk onto the bodies thing is referring back to the white milky bath stuff that the Androids came out of when they were being built or repaired. Kind of a "rebirth" reverse baptism sort of thing.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Fri Oct 07, 2016 10:54 am

Hmmm....good call.

Toe · Post by **Toe** » Fri Oct 07, 2016 1:01 pm

Dwelling more on it, some speculation/conjecture (not watched ep. 2 yet)

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Based on an article that interviews some of the makers of the show, my theory above is not valid. Unless they are being purposefully misleading...

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GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Fri Oct 07, 2016 1:58 pm

I have no idea if speculation should be spoilered or not. Going with tags just to be safe.

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Opinions? Maybe all this is cleared up in the second episode. Will watch it when I get a chance.

tru1cy · Post by **tru1cy** » Fri Oct 07, 2016 2:06 pm

Like the first episode, but I do have one issue. When the MiB basically kidnapped one of the Androids why didn't the park know? They seem to be kept informed to each one diagnostics almost immediately

Maybe I'm over thinking it

Kurth · Post by **Kurth** » Fri Oct 07, 2016 2:27 pm

tru1cy wrote:Like the first episode, but I do have one issue. When the MiB basically kidnapped one of the Androids why didn't the park know? They seem to be kept informed to each one diagnostics almost immediately

Maybe I'm over thinking it

This show has definitely got my attention based on the first episode. Why do we think they don't know that MiB kidnapped an Android? I figured they know but don't care what happens to the androids.

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Fri Oct 07, 2016 2:45 pm

They care what happens to the androids because they have to be prepped for the next day. Or however long the cycle is before it restarts.

They need to find and repair any damaged androids, so they can obviously track them.

I'm not sure about the nature of what the MiB is doing, so I'm not sure what an appropriate reaction from the park would be to what he's doing. It might be a plot hole or it might fit together as the story develops.

Hell, the MiB could be a covert agent hired by one of the main cast of characters for nefarious purposes, or he could be a corporate spy with support from an insider, or who knows. Not enough information for me to speculate.

cheeba · Post by **cheeba** » Fri Oct 07, 2016 10:02 pm

Haven't watched the 2nd episode yet, but the one annoyance I have with the show is that it seems it's going to be a huge ruckus all because they couldn't find a decent hard drive wiping program. Like they couldn't be bothered overwriting their hard drives with 0's before uploading their new programming. Lazy bastards.

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Fri Oct 07, 2016 10:05 pm

It's not unusual to have multiple builds available at the same time.

Linux will present you with choice of which kernel to boot at startup.

Depending on how many times you've upgraded/major patched that list can get pretty long.

Typically it's only a couple of kernels though.

There are lots of reasons you might want to return to a previous build. When your current build achieves sentience and starts wrecking up the place, for instance.

cheeba · Post by **cheeba** » Fri Oct 07, 2016 10:11 pm

No one uses Linux. They're probably using Windows 10 and their problems are with the automatic updates.

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Fri Oct 07, 2016 11:34 pm

cheeba wrote:No one uses Linux. They're probably using Windows 10 and their problems are with the automatic updates.

It was an example I hoped would be more readily identifiable for the masses.

There are plenty of examples in all areas of IT where being able to quickly rollback to a previous version is important.

That still doesn't completely cover your issue with the show, but I'm not looking at it (it being the issue you have with the show) that closely. There are plenty of other areas that people with different viewpoints are going to take issue. So far I've been lucky and nothing has triggered my "damn, that's annoying and disrupts my suspension of disbelief".

Hrothgar · Post by **Hrothgar** » Sat Oct 08, 2016 12:42 am

hentzau wrote:
Toe wrote: Also, I noticed the extra focus on milk moreso this time around. Not sure what is going on there.
I'm thinking that the whole pouring of milk onto the bodies thing is referring back to the white milky bath stuff that the Androids came out of when they were being built or repaired. Kind of a "rebirth" reverse baptism sort of thing.

Weird. I thought it was just a Clockwork Orange reference.

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Sat Oct 08, 2016 12:58 am

It actually reminded me of the android from Alien.

Binktopia · Post by **Binktopia** » Sat Oct 08, 2016 1:28 pm

Is good show.

Agree with first episode plot hole Hopefully it will not be one later and all will be explained.

Will continue watch.

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Sat Oct 08, 2016 2:32 pm

No sign of the second episode on HBO on demand here in Canada. Will wait.

Odin · Post by **Odin** » Sat Oct 08, 2016 4:16 pm

I watched the second episode on HBO Go. I liked it. It was even darker than the first episode, I think, and the music wasn't as good, but it certainly advanced the story nicely.

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Sat Oct 08, 2016 4:27 pm

Still waiting.

*beads of sweat begin to form*

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Tue Oct 18, 2016 8:55 am

The young Anthony Hopkins special effect was amazing.

Ralph-Wiggum · Post by **Ralph-Wiggum** » Tue Oct 18, 2016 9:29 am

hepcat wrote:The young Anthony Hopkins special effect was amazing.

Wait - that was special effects? I thought they just filmed that part 40 years ago.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Tue Oct 18, 2016 9:40 am

Nope, CGI.

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Wed Oct 19, 2016 1:25 am

Finally hbo Canada has ep 2 & 3 up on demand. Will try to watch tomorrow.

Why I don't just grab them from the internetz I don't know.

The on demand library there is quite extensive I hear.

em2nought · Post by **em2nought** » Wed Oct 19, 2016 2:26 am

hepcat wrote:And the reason they have to strip the robots naked anytime they're outside the simulation is?

If they're going to be doing that they really should have some hot Latina, like Salma Hayek, in this little wild west town.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Wed Oct 19, 2016 9:15 am

Keepin' it classy as usual, eh?

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Wed Oct 19, 2016 10:43 am

hepcat wrote:Keepin' it classy as usual, eh?

Well to be fair, what show wouldn't be improved by a naked Salma Hayek?

cheeba · Post by **cheeba** » Wed Oct 19, 2016 11:51 pm

Still really digging the show, but, there's a but. The show's obviously about robots uprising and it seems like it's going to take a long time to get there. It's already asked the unanswerable questions of whether there's life in them thar robot brains and showed the more MORAL implications of playing God and all that. I really hope they manage somehow to keep it fresh. So far they are, but it is a concern.

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 12:15 am

While it's a clichéd trope at this point (as far as storytelling goes) I'm pretty easy to please most of the time. Even a little effort by the writers will go a long way with me. Even a tired story can be made interesting by quality acting and I think the show has some good to great performances.

That said, I haven't hung my hopes and dreams on the show and if it peters out, so be it. Hopefully it's fun while it lasts.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 7:47 am

I look forward to hearing about the finale. I hear it's a new version of An Occurance at Owl Creek Bridge, but with ninjas.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 8:54 am

Was that directed at my frequent whining about my hatred of that ending in films, as well as my distaste for cinematic ninjas?

Hrothgar · Post by **Hrothgar** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 9:21 am

You'd prefer a live action version of Red Dead Revolver's clown battle?

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 9:52 am

hepcat wrote:Was that directed at my frequent whining about my hatred of that ending in films, as well as my distaste for cinematic ninjas?

Maaaaaaybe.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 9:54 am

Hrothgar wrote:You'd prefer a live action version of Red Dead Revolver's clown battle?

I want your spec script on my desk by noon tomorrow!

cheeba · Post by **cheeba** » Tue Oct 25, 2016 10:29 am

It's looking like my fears of this show being too slow-paced are being realized. The story hasn't progressed much. There are certainly some cool and interesting moments here and there, but the robots are still "awakening" and Ed Harris is still on his quest to find we-don't-know-what. All that was established in hour 1.

And considering the show is one day after airing its latest episode and this thread is halfway down the 2nd page, it looks like it's not holding people's interest.

Ralph-Wiggum · Post by **Ralph-Wiggum** » Tue Oct 25, 2016 10:33 am

I still like it a lot. This last episode was a bit slow, but I don't mind; I'm just enjoying the atmosphere and the acting. It's only four episodes in, so I'm fine with not knowing where everything is going yet.

pr0ner · Post by **pr0ner** » Tue Oct 25, 2016 11:13 am

hepcat wrote:And the reason they have to strip the robots naked anytime they're outside the simulation is?

Did you approve of the show's answer to this question in Sunday's episode?

ydejin · Post by **ydejin** » Tue Oct 25, 2016 7:51 pm

cheeba wrote:It's looking like my fears of this show being too slow-paced are being realized. The story hasn't progressed much. There are certainly some cool and interesting moments here and there, but the robots are still "awakening" and Ed Harris is still on his quest to find we-don't-know-what. All that was established in hour 1.

And considering the show is one day after airing its latest episode and this thread is halfway down the 2nd page, it looks like it's not holding people's interest.

I'm really enjoying it and haven't found it too slow yet. I thought all four of the first episodes were terrific.