[AMC] Better Call Saul

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Wed Apr 29, 2020 4:36 pm

McNutt wrote: ↑Wed Apr 29, 2020 12:16 pm It is for me just because I can't root for Jimmy at all and I'm really starting to root against Kim. The writing is still great, but it has changed.

It's not like the show went from A+ to C. I'd give last season an A-.

I think it all comes down to Kim for me in season 5. I just don't get her motivations most of the time. She seems to have become a different person without any explanation. I'm hoping season 6 has a major reveal that explains it all though. Much like they did with Chuck in season 1. We had no clue as to why he was such a jerk to Jimmy at times...until we finally got a better look at how Jimmy treated everyone when he was a kid. Then it all started to fall into place.

RunningMn9 · Post by **RunningMn9** » Wed Apr 29, 2020 4:57 pm

What is happening. Didn’t we just complete Season 5?

Jaymann · Post by **Jaymann** » Wed Apr 29, 2020 5:00 pm

Try to catch up hep.

Ralph-Wiggum · Post by **Ralph-Wiggum** » Wed Apr 29, 2020 5:02 pm

I thought this was one of the better seasons, but then again I thought there were times in the first few seasons that were a bit slow. I didn't have that issue at all with this season and the writing and acting are just as good as before.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Wed Apr 29, 2020 5:19 pm

RunningMn9 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 29, 2020 4:57 pm What is happening. Didn’t we just complete Season 5?

I was thinking of another show while writing that and wrote down THEIR number of seasons by accident. Whoops.

Jaymann wrote: ↑Wed Apr 29, 2020 5:00 pm Try to catch up hep.

I'm surprised you didn't try to blame Howard for my mistake.

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Wed Apr 29, 2020 5:35 pm

hepcat wrote: ↑Wed Apr 29, 2020 4:36 pmI just don't get her motivations most of the time.

I think the seemingly non-sequitur opening from one of the final episodes where she was waiting for her mom to pick her up after school is a solid clue.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Wed Apr 29, 2020 5:56 pm

But as I noted before, that scene does the exact opposite of establishing Kim as weak willed. I think there's a scene AFTER that that we need to see to explain the polar opposite behaviour she exhibits towards Jimmy.

Jaymann · Post by **Jaymann** » Wed Apr 29, 2020 6:23 pm

I think that would be the scene where Howard dresses her down.

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Wed Apr 29, 2020 6:32 pm

hepcat wrote: ↑Wed Apr 29, 2020 5:56 pm But as I noted before, that scene does the exact opposite of establishing Kim as weak willed. I think there's a scene AFTER that that we need to see to explain the polar opposite behaviour she exhibits towards Jimmy.

I believe it demonstrates that from an early age her model for love/relationships is rooted in toxic behavior.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Wed Apr 29, 2020 7:07 pm

But it also demonstrates she refuses to let herself become a victim of such relationships.

I think there’s more to come on Kim’s background. At least I hope so.

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Wed Apr 29, 2020 7:13 pm

Maybe. I think it reinforces the idea that her story is tragic. No matter how much good she does, she cannot escape toxic relationships. It's one of the reasons I really enjoy her character (and the actress' portrayal). She's definitely a multi-layered individual. There's clearly lots going on and I agree - we're going to learn more.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Wed Apr 29, 2020 7:23 pm

Jaymann wrote: ↑Wed Apr 29, 2020 6:23 pm I think that would be the scene where Howard dresses her down.

THERE we go.

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Sat Feb 27, 2021 3:35 pm

No Saul in 2021, unfortunately:

Although no dates have been set, the show’s final, 10-episode season will, per Sapan, likely arrive in the first quarter of 2022.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Tue Jul 27, 2021 11:38 pm

TMZ

Bob Odenkirk was rushed to the hospital after collapsing on the set of his show "Better Call Saul" ... and is still receiving medical care.

Production sources tell TMZ Odenkirk and cast were shooting in New Mexico Tuesday when the incident happened. We're told Odenkirk went down, and was immediately surrounded by crew members who called an ambulance.

We're told it's unclear if he was conscious when he was transported, but a source close to Odenkirk tells us he is still in the hospital under the care of doctors.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:42 am

Get well, Saul. We need you.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Wed Jul 28, 2021 2:07 pm

Maybe he is just sick and the heat got to him. Hope its nothing super serious.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:08 pm

HR

Bob Odenkirk is in stable condition at a New Mexico hospital Wednesday, a day after suffering a heart attack while in production on the sixth and final season of AMC’s Better Call Saul.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:43 pm

Good lord, a heart attack? He’s so young.

Jaymann · Post by **Jaymann** » Wed Jul 28, 2021 9:04 pm

hepcat wrote: ↑Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:43 pm Good lord, a heart attack? He’s so young.

That sucks, hope he recovers soon.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Wed Jul 28, 2021 9:07 pm

The 58-year-old star of the Breaking Bad prequel series collapsed on the Albuquerque, New Mexico, set Tuesday. Crewmembers immediately surrounded him and called an ambulance.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Wed Jul 28, 2021 9:10 pm

I thought he was in his late 40s, to be honest. That’s still pretty young for a heart attack, I would think. But I’m no doctor.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Wed Jul 28, 2021 9:11 pm

Jaymann · Post by **Jaymann** » Wed Jul 28, 2021 9:41 pm

Representatives for Bob Odenkirk say the actor is 'in a stable condition' following a 'heart related incident' after he collapsed on the set of Better Call Saul on Tuesday

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Wed Jul 28, 2021 9:49 pm

naednek · Post by **naednek** » Wed Jul 28, 2021 11:25 pm

Yeah I was thinking either heart attack or heat stroke being in the desert

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Holman · Post by **Holman** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:49 pm

telcta · Post by **telcta** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:05 pm

So great to hear from him. I’m rarely on Twitter but I was refreshing the page that night looking for updates. Through many tweets, I did learn a lot about him and how nice a guy he is in general. We did watch Nobody last night and now I want to go and look for Mr. Show.

Jaymann · Post by **Jaymann** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:32 pm

Key words: without surgery!

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:15 pm

telcta wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:05 pm I want to go and look for Mr. Show.

HBO.

telcta · Post by **telcta** » Tue Aug 03, 2021 12:18 am

Found it, thank you. I see 4 seasons. Wow, 1995!

Carpet_pissr · Post by **Carpet_pissr** » Tue Aug 03, 2021 9:13 am

Jaymann wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:32 pm Key words: without surgery!

Yeah, consider me intrigued! Any more details on that? Drugs I assume?

Freyland · Post by **Freyland** » Tue Aug 03, 2021 10:10 am

Carpet_pissr wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 9:13 am
Jaymann wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:32 pm Key words: without surgery!
Yeah, consider me intrigued! Any more details on that? Drugs I assume?

I *assumed* they meant by cath and stent rather than cracking his chest.

Jaymann · Post by **Jaymann** » Tue Apr 19, 2022 12:44 am

Season 6 episode 1 is up and is up to their excellent standards.

Edit: Wow, 2 1/2 hours of Saul Goodness, like a feature length film.

Jag · Post by **Jag** » Tue Apr 19, 2022 10:00 am

Remains one of the best shows on TV.

JCC · Post by **JCC** » Tue Apr 26, 2022 8:31 pm

Watched the first 3 eps of the new season the last 2 nights. Simply fantastic - as always. Greatest spin off, ever.

naednek · Post by **naednek** » Thu Apr 28, 2022 1:17 am

I streamed the 5 seasons to refresh and just caught up on season 6. A little bit sad that.

Spoiler:

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McNutt · Post by **McNutt** » Thu Apr 28, 2022 9:43 am

Let's talk about Mike (no spoiler). I just can't grasp that a person like Mike exists.

Mike is a bad guy. We may refuse to believe this because we like Mike, but he is a bad man. He's a hired gun working for the drug cartel and he kills people. And don't say he just kills bad guys, because he killed Werner. That makes him a bad guy.

However, he genuinely has a heart of gold and is the kind of person you can trust in almost any situation not involving his employment to do the right thing.

Are there really people like this in the world? This isn't like the Nazi prison guard who followed orders, but other than that seemed to be a sweetheart. Mike actively seeks employment where he's going to have to kill people so that his employer can sell drugs. I just can't wrap my head around this and it makes his character so appealing.

Jaymann · Post by **Jaymann** » Thu Apr 28, 2022 10:00 am

Mike has a set of skills that allow him to make money. But as effed up as that is, he also has a moral code of sorts - witness his refusal to use Nacho's father as leverage. And he is there for his family, at risk to himself. Maybe I missed something but what was not clear to me:

Spoiler:

Jaymann · Post by **Jaymann** » Wed May 04, 2022 7:49 pm

Mike meets Kim was epic. Plus Lalo serves better as a threatened boogieman than in person.

Kraken · Post by **Kraken** » Wed May 04, 2022 9:56 pm

"You are made of sterner stuff." Mike's a good judge of character, and he knows shady characters.