Subway Jared in trouble?

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Mon Aug 24, 2015 12:20 pm

Scuzz wrote:
GreenGoo wrote:Amazingly, I don't recall a single girl being pregnant in my time in high school. I assume there were, and I just didn't notice and/pay attention. I can't imagine that I had any in my classes though, because that would be hard to miss.
Many school districts have separate schools/programs for kids who they don't want in the regular classes. I know the two big ones here do, and have for 40+ years.

Yeah, that wouldn't surprise me. I didn't have sex until late in High School and then it was a monogamous relationship. I dated constantly before that though, but still, I never noticed anyone with a baby bump or mysteriously disappearing to another school and/or give birth or abortion.

em2nought · Post by **em2nought** » Mon Aug 24, 2015 12:22 pm

Puritan USA is so ridiculous. There were a few MILFS I'd have been happy to have sex with when I was a teenager mowing their lawns. Never happened, probably because I'm as awkward as Jared. At least I'm not as stupid as he is, there are plenty of escorts that would play to his desires, and easily look the part while doing it.

I think I need therapy because I'm a fiscal conservative posting on an overwhelmingly opposed forum. lol

noxiousdog · Post by **noxiousdog** » Mon Aug 24, 2015 12:24 pm

There's lots of minors that can responsibly drink alcohol too, but studies and public sentiment is that they aren't mature enough ON THE WHOLE.

Also, I don't really think we are talking about 16 or 17 years olds.

So when it's two minors, neither of them can legally consent so there's no prosecution. When it's a minor and an adult, the adult is supposed to know better.

Scuzz · Post by **Scuzz** » Mon Aug 24, 2015 12:25 pm

em2nought wrote:Puritan USA is so ridiculous. There were a few MILFS I'd have been happy to have sex with when I was a teenager mowing their lawns. Never happened, probably because I'm as awkward as Jared. At least I'm not as stupid as he is, there are plenty of escorts that would play to his desires, and easily look the part while doing it.

I think I need therapy because I'm a fiscal conservative posting on an overwhelmingly opposed forum. lol

And if those escorts provided him with minors (per his request) they would be violating the law along with him.

I haven't read to much stuff on this but has the "provider" of his minors been charged?

em2nought · Post by **em2nought** » Mon Aug 24, 2015 12:37 pm

Scuzz wrote:
em2nought wrote:Puritan USA is so ridiculous. There were a few MILFS I'd have been happy to have sex with when I was a teenager mowing their lawns. Never happened, probably because I'm as awkward as Jared. At least I'm not as stupid as he is, there are plenty of escorts that would play to his desires, and easily look the part while doing it.

I think I need therapy because I'm a fiscal conservative posting on an overwhelmingly opposed forum. lol

And if those escorts provided him with minors (per his request) they would be violating the law along with him.

I haven't read to much stuff on this but has the "provider" of his minors been charged?

I've no idea on actual underage, I'm talking about 25-30 year olds that can play dress up. Mini skirts, cheerleader, pig tails. The idiot could have easily gotten that instead. Easier if this wasn't such a Puritanical country, so in a sense making it harder for him to find a legal method for his wacko-jacko makes it more likely that he ended up victimizing some actual kids.

Jeff V · Post by **Jeff V** » Mon Aug 24, 2015 12:46 pm

GreenGoo wrote:Amazingly, I don't recall a single girl being pregnant in my time in high school. I assume there were, and I just didn't notice and/pay attention. I can't imagine that I had any in my classes though, because that would be hard to miss.

I went during the so-called "sexual revolution." The more responsible among us never left home unprepared.

Paingod · Post by **Paingod** » Mon Aug 24, 2015 12:49 pm

em2nought wrote:I'm talking about 25-30 year olds that can play dress up.

Dressing up only hides age to a degree. For some reason your comment made me wonder how many times he maybe went to Thailand as a 'sex tourist'... I've heard some not-so-nice things about what people look for over there.

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Mon Aug 24, 2015 1:32 pm

em2nought wrote:I think I need therapy because I'm a fiscal conservative posting on an overwhelmingly opposed forum. lol

This is a socially liberal forum (mostly). Economic opinions run the gamut, although we do tend to shy away from wholesale slaughter of people, in general.

Rip · Post by **Rip** » Mon Aug 24, 2015 1:40 pm

GreenGoo wrote:
em2nought wrote:I think I need therapy because I'm a fiscal conservative posting on an overwhelmingly opposed forum. lol
This is a socially liberal forum (mostly). Economic opinions run the gamut, although we do tend to shy away from wholesale slaughter of people, in general.

Fetuses however are another matter entirely.

Moliere · Post by **Moliere** » Mon Aug 24, 2015 1:57 pm

"Come here my little crouton." Jared on The Soup.

I wonder why Subway removed this game from their site.

em2nought · Post by **em2nought** » Mon Aug 24, 2015 1:57 pm

Paingod wrote:
em2nought wrote:I'm talking about 25-30 year olds that can play dress up.
Dressing up only hides age to a degree. For some reason your comment made me wonder how many times he maybe went to Thailand as a 'sex tourist'... I've heard some not-so-nice things about what people look for over there.

Not everyone who goes to Thailand is looking for someone underage, in fact probably most don't. It's blown out of proportion in order to stay in good graces with the good ol' USA & ICE. Just like underage prostitution at the Super Bowl is blown way out of proportion.

tgb · Post by **tgb** » Mon Aug 24, 2015 2:03 pm

Meanwhile, back at Jared's

Jared Fogle had something for minors, but it wasn’t money....... According to tax records, the Jared Fogle Healthy Lifestyle Nationwide School Grant Program spent an average of just $73,000 annually between 2009 and 2013 and never issued a grant......Seems 60% of the non-profit’s documented expenditures went to executive director Russell Taylor, 43 (now jailed on child pornography charges), and 26% went who knows where.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Mon Aug 24, 2015 2:11 pm

Sounds like the Clinton Foundation!

-Typed for Rip in order to save him the effort

Carpet_pissr · Post by **Carpet_pissr** » Mon Aug 24, 2015 2:16 pm

7 pages on Jared the Subway boy, as if he was some celebrity.

He's a doughy white dude that shilled for a mediocre fast food chain! My God we've sunk low. I blame Paris Hilton. At least she actually has unlimited money, a sex tape (maybe Jared does too?), and moderate good looks.

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Mon Aug 24, 2015 2:22 pm

We're all happy to talk about something more interesting. What did you have in mind?

Carpet_pissr · Post by **Carpet_pissr** » Mon Aug 24, 2015 2:28 pm

GreenGoo wrote:We're all happy to talk about something more interesting. What did you have in mind?

I love lamp.

Moliere · Post by **Moliere** » Mon Aug 24, 2015 2:29 pm

hepcat wrote:Sounds like the Clinton Foundation!

-Typed for Rip in order to save him the effort

No picture of Hillary eating at Subway?

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Mon Aug 24, 2015 2:35 pm

Rip · Post by **Rip** » Mon Aug 24, 2015 2:45 pm

Jeff V · Post by **Jeff V** » Mon Aug 24, 2015 3:43 pm

em2nought wrote:
Paingod wrote:
em2nought wrote:I'm talking about 25-30 year olds that can play dress up.
Dressing up only hides age to a degree. For some reason your comment made me wonder how many times he maybe went to Thailand as a 'sex tourist'... I've heard some not-so-nice things about what people look for over there.
Not everyone who goes to Thailand is looking for someone underage, in fact probably most don't. It's blown out of proportion in order to stay in good graces with the good ol' USA & ICE. Just like underage prostitution at the Super Bowl is blown way out of proportion.

This kind of stuff is always prevalent in impoverished third world countries. I know The Philippines has warning signs threatening pain and misery on anyone coming into the country intending to exploit children, but you don't have to look hard to find it. I think Thailand is the same way -- they have been trying to get away from the "sex tourism" rep but local corruption makes it hard. The sad thing is in many cases, it's not about young girls being forced to do something they don't want to do (although slavery/trafficking is prevalent), but something they want to do because they find it's the only way they can help their family. I can only speak toward the Philippines, but there is very little an honest teen can do to earn any money...even menial fast food and supermarket jobs require college degrees (because there are so many unemployed degreed people to fill them). My wife was actually amazed the first time she saw high school aged kids take our order in a fast food restaurant and was impressed that they were able to do so. When my wife was a kid, she'd work in the sugar cane fields for less than $1 per day, or sell peanuts at the market for even less, but she group up in the country. Kids in the city really have less opportunity, many beg, steal, or sell themselves.

Alefroth · Post by **Alefroth** » Mon Aug 24, 2015 4:21 pm

em2nought wrote:Puritan USA is so ridiculous. There were a few MILFS I'd have been happy to have sex with when I was a teenager mowing their lawns. Never happened, probably because I'm as awkward as Jared. At least I'm not as stupid as he is, there are plenty of escorts that would play to his desires, and easily look the part while doing it.

I think I need therapy because I'm a fiscal conservative posting on an overwhelmingly opposed forum. lol

How do you know what his desires are?

em2nought · Post by **em2nought** » Mon Aug 24, 2015 6:55 pm

Alefroth wrote:
em2nought wrote:Puritan USA is so ridiculous. There were a few MILFS I'd have been happy to have sex with when I was a teenager mowing their lawns. Never happened, probably because I'm as awkward as Jared. At least I'm not as stupid as he is, there are plenty of escorts that would play to his desires, and easily look the part while doing it.

I think I need therapy because I'm a fiscal conservative posting on an overwhelmingly opposed forum. lol
How do you know what his desires are?

What he wanted seems pretty evident. All goes back to the tried and true if you're going after young tail you better at least look as good as Debra Lafave

Anonymous Bosch · Post by **Anonymous Bosch** » Mon Aug 24, 2015 7:01 pm

Carpet_pissr wrote:7 pages on Jared the Subway boy, as if he was some celebrity.

He's a doughy white dude that shilled for a mediocre fast food chain! My God we've sunk low. I blame Paris Hilton. At least she actually has unlimited money, a sex tape (maybe Jared does too?), and moderate good looks.

In advertising terms, he's perhaps one of the most major celebrities there is. For a mediocre fast food chain like Subway, the Jared advertising campaign likely ranks among the most successful in history.

To put that in perspective, I recall being amazed to learn a few years ago that there were more Subway franchises in the U.S. than there were Starbucks and McDonald’s combined.

Xmann · Post by **Xmann** » Mon Aug 24, 2015 7:02 pm

em2nought wrote:
Alefroth wrote:
em2nought wrote:Puritan USA is so ridiculous. There were a few MILFS I'd have been happy to have sex with when I was a teenager mowing their lawns. Never happened, probably because I'm as awkward as Jared. At least I'm not as stupid as he is, there are plenty of escorts that would play to his desires, and easily look the part while doing it.

I think I need therapy because I'm a fiscal conservative posting on an overwhelmingly opposed forum. lol
How do you know what his desires are?
What he wanted seems pretty evident. All goes back to the tried and true if you're going after young tail you better at least look as good as Debra Lafave

Yes please

Alefroth · Post by **Alefroth** » Mon Aug 24, 2015 7:11 pm

em2nought wrote:
Alefroth wrote:
em2nought wrote:Puritan USA is so ridiculous. There were a few MILFS I'd have been happy to have sex with when I was a teenager mowing their lawns. Never happened, probably because I'm as awkward as Jared. At least I'm not as stupid as he is, there are plenty of escorts that would play to his desires, and easily look the part while doing it.

I think I need therapy because I'm a fiscal conservative posting on an overwhelmingly opposed forum. lol
How do you know what his desires are?
What he wanted seems pretty evident.

Does it? I guess I missed the details. Not everyone who is into cheerleaders and pig-tails is a pedophile, or vice-versa. I think you're unjustly simplifying things, but I admit, I am out of the loop.

Blackhawk · Post by **Blackhawk** » Mon Aug 24, 2015 7:54 pm

Carpet_pissr wrote:7 pages on Jared the Subway boy, as if he was some celebrity.

Nah, not 7 pages on Jared. Most of the pages were of us discussing social, legal, and economic issues related to what Jared did. He was just a topic-starter.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Mon Aug 24, 2015 7:55 pm

Every guy would like to give a high five to the 16 year old boy who gets caught in one of these trysts with their attractive 30ish female teacher. Of course, the moment it's someone's 16 year old daughter having sex with a 30ish male teacher, the high fives stop and the outrage starts from those same people.

note: this is a side topic on something I always find telling about our society, not a direct commentary on the current situation with Jared Fogle.

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Mon Aug 24, 2015 8:10 pm

hepcat wrote:Every guy would like to give a high five to the 16 year old boy who gets caught in one of these trysts with their attractive 30ish female teacher. Of course, the moment it's someone's 16 year old daughter having sex with a 30ish male teacher, the high fives stop and the outrage starts from those same people.

note: this is a side topic on something I always find telling about our society, not a direct commentary on the current situation with Jared Fogle.

They say something about emotional scarring later in life for the boy. Unless he (I?) was involved in homewrecking and destroyed someone's family, I don't see it. But if I was that boy and knew I was wrecking a home, I wouldn't have done it in the first place. I remember being 17 and being with a single 22 year old and at age 44 my memories of this are just as happy as ever. I have no idea why she was using me. Don't care. She could have 30 and using me. Don't care. We didn't hurt no body. But then, I couldn't get knocked up when I was 17.

Zarathud · Post by **Zarathud** » Mon Aug 24, 2015 8:45 pm

Your hot teacher would be abusing your immaturity even if you thought you were a hot stud and had all the high fives in the world. It's abuse, no matter if it's a boy or girl who sleeps with an adult -- especially one with perceived power.

If you can't see (or admit it), it's because this is a forum of grown up nerds. Not people who work with social services, child welfare, or psychologists.

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Mon Aug 24, 2015 9:17 pm

Xmann wrote: Yes please

And then thousands of dollars of therapy to recover from the trauma.

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Mon Aug 24, 2015 9:19 pm

Zarathud wrote: If you can't see (or admit it), it's because this is a forum of grown up nerds. Not people who work with social services, child welfare, or psychologists.

It might be because some of us had sex with older women when we were still minors.

Moliere · Post by **Moliere** » Mon Aug 24, 2015 9:37 pm

GreenGoo wrote:
Xmann wrote: Yes please
And then thousands of dollars of therapy to recover from the trauma.

The trauma of never getting someone that hot again?

em2nought · Post by **em2nought** » Mon Aug 24, 2015 9:39 pm

Moliere wrote:
GreenGoo wrote:
Xmann wrote: Yes please
And then thousands of dollars of therapy to recover from the trauma.
The trauma of never getting someone that hot again?

LOL

Rip · Post by **Rip** » Mon Aug 24, 2015 9:49 pm

I know I still suffer trauma from perverse sexual encounters as a young teen.

Some days I can barely look at my hands.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Mon Aug 24, 2015 9:54 pm

It didn't have to be perverse. But you insisted on the wet suit, car battery, nipple clamps and cabbage patch doll.

Moliere wrote:
GreenGoo wrote:
Xmann wrote: Yes please
And then thousands of dollars of therapy to recover from the trauma.
The trauma of never getting someone that hot again?

Maybe the trauma of having it be Father O'Malley instead.

noxiousdog · Post by **noxiousdog** » Tue Aug 25, 2015 9:48 am

Zarathud wrote:Your hot teacher would be abusing your immaturity even if you thought you were a hot stud and had all the high fives in the world. It's abuse, no matter if it's a boy or girl who sleeps with an adult -- especially one with perceived power.

If you can't see (or admit it), it's because this is a forum of grown up nerds. Not people who work with social services, child welfare, or psychologists.

It may or may not be abuse in either case.

I think that's part of the issue is we are painting black and white when there really should be some consideration of the situation and people involved. Relationships and sex are different for everyone.

Clearly, Jared is a predator, but that doesn't mean that all 16 year olds are prey.

And then it gets weird. I can understand 16 year olds being able to make that decision (though I'm sure many/most are not mature enough). I cannot reasonably accept 14 year olds. Why? I don't know. Maybe it's just because there's enough 16 year olds having sex to trust them, and I'm skeptical that 14 year old sex is that common.

Chrisoc13 · Post by **Chrisoc13** » Tue Aug 25, 2015 9:56 am

Zarathud wrote:Your hot teacher would be abusing your immaturity even if you thought you were a hot stud and had all the high fives in the world. It's abuse, no matter if it's a boy or girl who sleeps with an adult -- especially one with perceived power.

If you can't see (or admit it), it's because this is a forum of grown up nerds. Not people who work with social services, child welfare, or psychologists.

Exactly, I agree with this.

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Tue Aug 25, 2015 1:26 pm

Because this is an interesting topic that we have discussed before and I came across this apropos anecdote on http://www.notalwaysfriendly.com.

not always friendly wrote: I am on a middle school field trip. I am 14 and am noticing boys who I think maybe I could date. At the theme park in the town, there is a guy manning a shop. He looks 16, so not too old for me to flirt with. I should mention I look older at the time because I’m well-endowed. We chat for a bit…)

Me: “So, I’m gonna have to leave soon. We have to meet up with our teachers to get ready to go.”

Guy: “Okay. Can I give you my number?”

Me: “Sure!”

(I take his number and notice there’s other business numbers.)

Me: “Huh? How many jobs do you have?”

Guy: “Oh! I do the photography thing on my own. It’s just a side job.”

Me: “Wait… How old are you?”

Guy: “26. How… How old are you?”

Me: “14!”

Guy: “Oh, my GOD! I thought you were 18 and on a high school trip!”

Me: “Middle School! I thought you were 16! ”

Guy: “Yeah, that happens a lot. I’m so sorry…”

Me: “You’re not the first to think I’m older, too.”

(The man was thoroughly disgusted with himself when he learned my real age! I’d had a friend with me the whole time, who subsequently laughed her butt off.)

Rip · Post by **Rip** » Tue Aug 25, 2015 1:36 pm

Perhaps Jared should have done his trolling for underage girls out of the country the way the politicians do?

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government ... -menendez/

Later in the document, the DOJ lays out how even though the allegations of child prostitution against Menendez and Melgen have not resulted in criminal charges, such allegations have been “corroborated.”

“Presented with specific, corroborated allegations that defendants Menendez and Melgen had sex with underage prostitutes in the Dominican Republic, the Government responsibly and dutifully investigated those serious allegations,” the DOJ writes.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Tue Aug 25, 2015 1:41 pm

Rip wrote:Perhaps Jared should have done his trolling for underage girls out of the country the way the politicians do?

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government ... -menendez/

Later in the document, the DOJ lays out how even though the allegations of child prostitution against Menendez and Melgen have not resulted in criminal charges, such allegations have been “corroborated.”

“Presented with specific, corroborated allegations that defendants Menendez and Melgen had sex with underage prostitutes in the Dominican Republic, the Government responsibly and dutifully investigated those serious allegations,” the DOJ writes.

Does the document say anything about why no indictments were filed? I have no idea about the facts of the case, but it is entirely consistent to have corroborated allegations sufficient to merit an investigation, only for the investigation to result in insufficient evidence of guilt.