Han Solo movie in 2018

Freyland · Post by **Freyland** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:19 pm

Guess I'm out. Thanks for the previous 9 pages of spoiler-free discussion.

Jaymann · Post by **Jaymann** » Wed Jun 20, 2018 2:03 am

I still think Solo shot first.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Wed Jun 20, 2018 7:04 am

Freyland wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:19 pm Guess I'm out. Thanks for the previous 9 pages of spoiler-free discussion.

What's left to discuss other than the movie itself?

JCC · Post by **JCC** » Wed Jun 20, 2018 6:03 pm

Holman wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 9:34 pm So the physical actor in Solo was the same as in Ep 1?

Yes, it is the same physical actor. The voice is different. But the physical actor's voice wasn't used in either movie.

JCC · Post by **JCC** » Wed Jun 20, 2018 6:07 pm

There are multiple stories online claiming that the "Star Wars Story" movies are on indefinite hold due to the disappointing box office of Solo. That's a shame as I enjoyed both of them.

My big pet peeve with both Rogue One and Solo was the lack of the BIG Star Wars intro. It was especially silly in the case of Solo since it began with narrative text!!!

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Wed Jun 20, 2018 9:55 pm

Holman wrote: ↑Wed Jun 20, 2018 7:04 am
Freyland wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:19 pm Guess I'm out. Thanks for the previous 9 pages of spoiler-free discussion.
What's left to discuss other than the movie itself?

Seriously--I'm not being snarky here. How should we organize discussion?

Given that Star Wars is obviously an ongoing thing, maybe we should have one big general spoiler-free thread for the whole series (including upcoming films and ones just recently released) and then clearly-identified spoiler threads for individual titles.

The spoiler tags are pretty unwieldy after a few days/weeks.

Moliere · Post by **Moliere** » Mon Oct 01, 2018 12:02 am

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Mon Oct 01, 2018 12:48 pm

Not read the thread in forever. Have not seen the movie. Only new star wars I missed. Just either didn't feel well or had no money or both. Maybe Ill never see it. Who knows. Trailers looked fun.

Rumpy · Post by **Rumpy** » Mon Oct 01, 2018 1:12 pm

It was a fun movie and definitely not as bad as critics were making it out to be. It's just a victim of being in the crossfire between TLJ and fans and came out at an unfortunate time and got sidelined. In some ways, it does some things a lot better than TLJ.

Combustible Lemur · Post by **Combustible Lemur** » Mon Oct 01, 2018 2:45 pm

Rumpy wrote:It was a fun movie and definitely not as bad as critics were making it out to be. It's just a victim of being in the crossfire between TLJ and fans and came out at an unfortunate time and got sidelined. In some ways, it does some things a lot better than TLJ.

I enjoyed it thoroughly. Some of the beats, characters, and designs were excellent.
The story was fun and just the right amount of bitter.
The composition of the film was crap. The editing left the tone all over the place. The classic score was often inappropriate to the action. It was clear that two different directors worked on it.

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Ralph-Wiggum · Post by **Ralph-Wiggum** » Mon Oct 01, 2018 4:24 pm

I finally saw this on a flight last week. It was... ok? They clearly were trying to hit on just about everything we know from the original trilogy about Han. Some of it was pretty stupid (e.g. how he got his name) and felt unnecessary. Generally, though, it was just a by-the-numbers action movie with a generic plot and not much in the way of surprises. And maybe it's just me (I haven't read through the thread), but does every Star Wars movie now have to have a droid that's the comic relief? It's getting old.

Rumpy · Post by **Rumpy** » Mon Oct 01, 2018 5:42 pm

Ralph-Wiggum wrote: ↑Mon Oct 01, 2018 4:24 pm . Some of it was pretty stupid (e.g. how he got his name)

Yeah, admittedly that was quite stupid. Certain things don't need to be elaborated on and should instead be left to mystique. But SW has a habit of overexplaining things that never needed explaining that began with the prequels (ie how the force works and the midichlorians). Cameo at the end felt tonally wrong and out of place as well.

Moliere · Post by **Moliere** » Mon Oct 01, 2018 10:00 pm

Daehawk wrote: ↑Mon Oct 01, 2018 12:48 pm Not read the thread in forever. Have not seen the movie. Only new star wars I missed. Just either didn't feel well or had no money or both. Maybe Ill never see it. Who knows. Trailers looked fun.

Do you not live near a library? Anything not on Netflix or Amazon Prime I get from the library for free.

McNutt · Post by **McNutt** » Thu Oct 04, 2018 10:32 am

I'm about 30 minutes into this movie and not impressed. I don't want to bitch too much, but I have a question (SPOILER):

In the train heist, Val gets surrounded by droids and loses her gun. She had set the bridge to blow and decides to Reb Brown it and sacrifice herself to make sure that bridge is out before they get there.

Why? Did I miss something about the importance of that bridge? They were releasing the car that they needed, so the bridge being out only seemed to make things harder for them. Now they have to get the car lifted before they reach the destroyed section. Why did it matter?

Combustible Lemur · Post by **Combustible Lemur** » Thu Oct 04, 2018 11:47 am

McNutt wrote:I'm about 30 minutes into this movie and not impressed. I don't want to bitch too much, but I have a question (SPOILER):

In the train heist, Val gets surrounded by droids and loses her gun. She had set the bridge to blow and decides to Reb Brown it and sacrifice herself to make sure that bridge is out before they get there.

Why? Did I miss something about the importance of that bridge? They were releasing the car that they needed, so the bridge being out only seemed to make things harder for them. Now they have to get the car lifted before they reach the destroyed section. Why did it matter?

Scramble the inventory? Make it look like terrorism.? No idea.

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McNutt · Post by **McNutt** » Thu Oct 04, 2018 11:56 am

Maybe it was necessary to allow them to lift the car on the bottom of the tracks too (i.e. the track would prevent them from lifting it). I don't remember them lifting both cars though.

Archinerd · Post by **Archinerd** » Thu Oct 04, 2018 1:33 pm

McNutt wrote: ↑Thu Oct 04, 2018 11:56 am Maybe it was necessary to allow them to lift the car on the bottom of the tracks too (i.e. the track would prevent them from lifting it). I don't remember them lifting both cars though.

Yes, because the car is wrapped around the track... which I pointed out many posts ago IS NOT PHYSICALLY POSSIBLE!

I still liked the movie though even if it is more fun than good.

Grifman · Post by **Grifman** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 5:36 pm

I just saw this while flying over the Atlantic and I really enjoyed it, despite the small fuzzy screen. The story was interesting with twists, had great action sequences, was very funny, and had some great callbacks and fan service. Was much better than I thought it was going to be.

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Thu Oct 11, 2018 8:29 pm

Archinerd wrote: ↑Thu Oct 04, 2018 1:33 pm Yes, because the car is wrapped around the track... which I pointed out many posts ago IS NOT PHYSICALLY POSSIBLE!

Why not?
Just asking for a friend.

Archinerd · Post by **Archinerd** » Thu Oct 11, 2018 10:06 pm

Hmm. Well, it looks like there are more pictures of it on the internet now than there used to be - so I've got a better view of it now.
It appears that the support can come in from the side and support the track. That span looks really long and thing but maybe it's made of super strong space metal.
The question I have now is, how is the top half and the bottom half of the train held together?

Archinerd · Post by **Archinerd** » Thu Oct 11, 2018 10:10 pm

Additional information from an interview with the designers.

How does the train mount to the track, and then how does the track mount to the mountainside and then what happens to the track when the train tilts one way or the other? Each one of those problems we had to solve through design. The track is off the mountain and there’s a post that goes down and is driven into the rock….You never see this stuff.

I am now suficiently satisfied that this was at least considered when designing this prop/vehicle/set. I can safely declare this to be the best Star Wars movie ever.

The Meal · Post by **The Meal** » Fri Oct 12, 2018 9:17 am

MAGNETS!

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Fri Oct 12, 2018 9:27 am

The Meal wrote: ↑Fri Oct 12, 2018 9:17 amMAGNETS!

Mesmerist.

Archinerd · Post by **Archinerd** » Fri Oct 12, 2018 10:04 am

The Meal wrote: ↑Fri Oct 12, 2018 9:17 amMAGNETS!

Sorry, incorrect.
Remember, they had to blow up part of the track to get the car off.

msduncan · Post by **msduncan** » Fri Oct 12, 2018 10:09 am

BTW -- I'm building an Imperial Mudtrooper costume too. (also known as Swamptrooper).

The Meal · Post by **The Meal** » Fri Oct 12, 2018 10:30 am

Archinerd wrote: ↑Fri Oct 12, 2018 10:04 am
The Meal wrote: ↑Fri Oct 12, 2018 9:17 amMAGNETS!
Sorry, incorrect.
Remember, they had to blow up part of the track to get the car off.

STRONG MAGNETS!

morlac · Post by **morlac** » Fri Oct 12, 2018 11:07 am

FORCE MAGNETS!!!!

Better question is why a train at all? Seems an antiquated and ovey complex delivery system for manufactured goods whm you could just fly it there?

Ralph-Wiggum · Post by **Ralph-Wiggum** » Fri Oct 12, 2018 11:16 am

The Meal wrote: ↑Fri Oct 12, 2018 9:17 amMAGNETS!

YellowKing · Post by **YellowKing** » Fri Oct 12, 2018 11:27 am

morlac wrote:Better question is why a train at all? Seems an antiquated and ovey complex delivery system for manufactured goods whm you could just fly it there?

The fuel requirements for freight-class ships are significant compared to the essentially "free" fuel of using a mag-lev rail. Freight runners typically prefer rail when shipment delivery time is not a huge factor, since the low transportation costs increase profit margin. Also despite this film's sequence, hijacking of rail transport is typically a low risk threat due to the difficulty involved. Ship hijacking (via low-power tractor beam, inside sabotage, or straight-up attack and board piracy) is much more common, particularly since those shipments are usually higher value due to their inter-planetary trade status. Also I just made all that up.

Carpet_pissr · Post by **Carpet_pissr** » Fri Oct 12, 2018 11:42 am

morlac wrote: ↑Fri Oct 12, 2018 11:07 am Better question is why a train at all? Seems an antiquated and ovey complex delivery system for manufactured goods whm you could just fly it there?

You really want to go there with SW?

Let's discuss the silliness of AT-AT in a world with FTL ships and technology while we're at it (at).

Just saw this the other night and I really enjoyed it. Personally I would give it a higher score than what it got on RT, but definitely not as good as the other new SW movies. Thought Woody Harrelson was a perfect casting decision (as almost always - that dude has amazingly flexible acting chops).

morlac · Post by **morlac** » Fri Oct 12, 2018 1:28 pm

YellowKing wrote: ↑Fri Oct 12, 2018 11:27 am
morlac wrote:Better question is why a train at all? Seems an antiquated and ovey complex delivery system for manufactured goods whm you could just fly it there?
The fuel requirements for freight-class ships are significant compared to the essentially "free" fuel of using a mag-lev rail. Freight runners typically prefer rail when shipment delivery time is not a huge factor, since the low transportation costs increase profit margin. Also despite this film's sequence, hijacking of rail transport is typically a low risk threat due to the difficulty involved. Ship hijacking (via low-power tractor beam, inside sabotage, or straight-up attack and board piracy) is much more common, particularly since those shipments are usually higher value due to their inter-planetary trade status. Also I just made all that up.

Sounds legit, I can dig it.

morlac · Post by **morlac** » Fri Oct 12, 2018 2:12 pm

Carpet_pissr wrote: ↑Fri Oct 12, 2018 11:42 am
morlac wrote: ↑Fri Oct 12, 2018 11:07 am Better question is why a train at all? Seems an antiquated and ovey complex delivery system for manufactured goods whm you could just fly it there?
You really want to go there with SW?

Let's discuss the silliness of AT-AT in a world with FTL ships and technology while we're at it (at).

Just saw this the other night and I really enjoyed it. Personally I would give it a higher score than what it got on RT, but definitely not as good as the other new SW movies. Thought Woody Harrelson was a perfect casting decision (as almost always - that dude has amazingly flexible acting chops).

AT-AT's makes sense for ground and pound campaigns against a rebel opponent you are trying to either beat or intimate into submission. Can be used as forward command post, overly armored troop transport to the front lines, slow walking bringer of death. Against an entrenched albeit mostly under equipped, lightly armored opponent except no substitute. But really they were just another over qualified ultra expensive piece of military equipment from the industrial military empire complex making the Industrial elites even richer so they can vacation at a casino world near you!

The Meal · Post by **The Meal** » Fri Oct 12, 2018 2:24 pm

Carpet_pissr wrote: ↑Fri Oct 12, 2018 11:42 amLet's discuss the silliness of AT-AT

They're getting better.

McNutt · Post by **McNutt** » Mon Oct 15, 2018 3:27 pm

I finally finished this film yesterday. On its own it is an okay action movie. Nothing memorable. As a Star Wars film though I was really disappointed. It just reaffirmed my feelings that Star Wars needs to venture out into different territories or I shouldn’t waste my time. I didn’t want a movie dedicated to a young Han Solo. They decided to play it safe, so that’s what I got.

What really grated on me were the constant references to other Star Wars lines/characters. For example, Chewbacca pulls someone’s arms off, just like Han said in Star Wars. He did the same thing in a deleted scene from The Force Awakens, so I guess they were hell bent on eventually showing that.

I’ve always wanted to see Han make the Kessel Run. And when I say “always,” I mean never.

Darth Maul is in this movie. Good lord, why? And they even have him ignite his double lightsaber for what I’m sure they thought would make people jump and scream. It was sad.

At one point the gang claims that they should have hired Bossk for this mission. Seriously? Is the galaxy really that small that we keep running into the same handful of characters? Even Rogue One, a movie I liked a lot, had the two cantina guys make a cameo, which made no sense as they would just happen to be on Tattooine a couple of days later. These cameos and references would make sense in a small town. Not when the story spans a galaxy.

They need to try harder.

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Sun Feb 03, 2019 9:03 pm

Tried to watch this recently. Turned it off less than 15 minutes in. Then proceeded to watch Guardians of the Galaxy 2. Observed that GotG2 is what Solo wished it could be, at least in tone and style.

Chrisoc13 · Post by **Chrisoc13** » Sun Feb 03, 2019 10:28 pm

Geez couldn't have a more opposite view. I love GoG1 but 2? Ugh... That movie was just terrible and boring. I had trouble staying awake in the middle pretty planet part. Just incredibly boring.

Solo I at least found entertaining. Curious you knew what it was trying to be in just 15 minutes

msteelers · Post by **msteelers** » Sun Feb 03, 2019 10:48 pm

Chrisoc13 wrote:Geez couldn't have a more opposite view. I love GoG1 but 2? Ugh... That movie was just terrible and boring. I had trouble staying awake in the middle pretty planet part. Just incredibly boring.

Wha?

Chrisoc13 · Post by **Chrisoc13** » Sun Feb 03, 2019 10:53 pm

msteelers wrote:
Chrisoc13 wrote:Geez couldn't have a more opposite view. I love GoG1 but 2? Ugh... That movie was just terrible and boring. I had trouble staying awake in the middle pretty planet part. Just incredibly boring.
Wha?

Haha could have been just me. But... Yeah I was bored stiff. It was a very disappointing movie for me since the first one is probably my all time favorite marvel movie.

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Sun Feb 03, 2019 11:04 pm

Well, my opinion of Solo is incomplete. It's incomplete because it was so terrible that I would rather do literally anything else but finish watching it. It's possible that it redeems itself later. Possible, but unlikely.

You can hate GotG2 all you want. Solo is worse.

Chrisoc13 · Post by **Chrisoc13** » Mon Feb 04, 2019 8:54 am

GreenGoo wrote:Well, my opinion of Solo is incomplete. It's incomplete because it was so terrible that I would rather do literally anything else but finish watching it. It's possible that it redeems itself later. Possible, but unlikely.

You can hate GotG2 all you want. Solo is worse.

Testy. It's just an opinion about entertainment options.

I'm fine with your opinion, just thought it was interesting how issue or views are on our.