Warcraft movie trailer

Jag · Post by **Jag** » Tue Nov 03, 2015 1:28 pm

The trailer is Friday, but they released a teaser trailer

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Yes, that's Westfall.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Tue Nov 03, 2015 1:39 pm

I can't wait for the part where the heroes foolishly trust an evil character and completely fail to foresee the inevitable betrayal.

Blackhawk · Post by **Blackhawk** » Tue Nov 03, 2015 1:53 pm

El Guapo wrote:I can't wait for the part where the heroes foolishly trust an evil character and completely fail to foresee the inevitable betrayal.

Lessee, given the era, that would be Medivh.

Jag · Post by **Jag** » Tue Nov 03, 2015 2:58 pm

Blackhawk wrote:
El Guapo wrote:I can't wait for the part where the heroes foolishly trust an evil character and completely fail to foresee the inevitable betrayal.
Lessee, given the era, that would be Medivh.

Also the guy on the right looks like Khadgar.

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Tue Nov 03, 2015 3:04 pm

El Guapo wrote:I can't wait for the part where the heroes foolishly trust an evil character and completely fail to foresee the inevitable betrayal.

Is that when they get a group of 20 of them together and make a plan to coordinate an attack and one of them runs in head long screaming his own name and for reasons no one can explain, every one follows him and they all die?

No. Wait. Someone already made that one.

NickAragua · Post by **NickAragua** » Tue Nov 03, 2015 3:11 pm

Yeah, I'm trying to figure out if this one is going to be about a great leader pointing at things and poking people in the chest repeatedly or some guy screaming "DKP MINUS" or whatever.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Tue Nov 03, 2015 3:17 pm

Also, I can't wait for them to make a Command & Conquer movie, where the heroes have to fend off an army of evil Nod soldiers, each sent one at a time into the heroes' wall of guard towers.

AWS260 · Post by **AWS260** » Tue Nov 03, 2015 3:45 pm

Blackhawk · Post by **Blackhawk** » Tue Nov 03, 2015 3:56 pm

Blackhawk · Post by **Blackhawk** » Fri Nov 06, 2015 3:53 pm

Released

Blackhawk · Post by **Blackhawk** » Fri Nov 06, 2015 4:01 pm

First thoughts on seeing the trailer. The CGI looks awesome, but I'm not sure it will mix well with the live action. There are things in there that stand out to someone up on their WoW lore. The fact that two brown orcs had a green baby. The fact that the baby was

Spoiler:

The storyline, however, does not come straight from the lore. Certain characters are meeting who could not have met due to some of them being deaded, unless I'm remembering incorrectly.

Also, was that the Nexus at one point?

Blackhawk · Post by **Blackhawk** » Fri Nov 06, 2015 4:38 pm

Blackhawk wrote:
El Guapo wrote:I can't wait for the part where the heroes foolishly trust an evil character and completely fail to foresee the inevitable betrayal.
Lessee, given the era, that would be Medivh.

I take that back. Having seen the trailer, I believe the name I was looking for was (probable major spoiler)

Spoiler:

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Fri Nov 06, 2015 4:44 pm

Blackhawk wrote:The CGI looks awesome, but I'm not sure it will mix well with the live action.

I know nothing about Warcraft, and this is the first thing that jumped out at me. It just looks...awkward.

Jag · Post by **Jag** » Fri Nov 06, 2015 4:44 pm

The CGI was heavier than expected. Movie looks ok but very much like the Battle of 5 Armies. Will be good for WoW fans and fantasy fans, but doubt it will get much attention otherwise.

On the other hand, the WoW Legion Cinematic was just released and I think it's fantastic.

TiLT · Post by **TiLT** » Fri Nov 06, 2015 5:22 pm

I've always thought the Warcraft setting and stories (all the games) have been incredibly stupid and have been getting sillier all the time, but credit where credit is due: They've really, really hit the visual style with this movie. It's clear that this is a work of love, and that's kind of making me want to see it.

Blackhawk · Post by **Blackhawk** » Fri Nov 06, 2015 5:42 pm

TiLT wrote:I've always thought the Warcraft setting and stories (all the games) have been incredibly stupid and have been getting sillier all the time

I absolutely agree. Then again, I like it because it isn't ashamed of its silliness. It is intentionally absurd to the point of parody. Look at it as parody - of fantasy tropes, of gaming, of popular culture, of itself. I mean, this is a game where you can get quests from He-Man, buy absurdly overpriced gear from Haris Pilton, watch Bambi's mother come back from the dead and kill the hunter, do archaeology with Harrison Jones, and ride around on a motorized tricycle while your pet tank follows you around. Orcs quote Caveman and Kermit the Frog.

And this isn't rare, hidden easter eggs, either. This is all over the place.

TiLT · Post by **TiLT** » Fri Nov 06, 2015 5:45 pm

Yeah, but the problems crop up when what you describe begins clashing with other parts of the setting, which take themselves way, way too seriously. This is a problem with Starcraft too. This movie appears to be heading into the "taking itself seriously" territory too, which risks becoming its greatest liability.

Blackhawk · Post by **Blackhawk** » Fri Nov 06, 2015 5:56 pm

I don't disagree. Warcraft is at its worst when it tries to be deep.

Kelric · Post by **Kelric** » Fri Nov 06, 2015 11:09 pm

1) They're making a WarCraft movie?!

2) RAGNAR!!!

Sudy · Post by **Sudy** » Fri Nov 06, 2015 11:39 pm

Looks like it might turn out OK, but unfortunately I just personally hate the blended CGI look. The CGI itself looks good, but to me it just doesn't mesh well with live action. Perhaps it just reminds me of the lack of practical sets in the Star Wars prequels and how hollow they felt. I also couldn't stand The 300 for this reason (among others).

That said, I know you're not going to get Blizzard's orcs any other way. But then, I'm not wholly convinced a Warcraft movie is a good idea to begin with. I hope I'm pleasantly surprised.

gilraen · Post by **gilraen** » Fri Nov 06, 2015 11:55 pm

Blackhawk wrote:
TiLT wrote:I've always thought the Warcraft setting and stories (all the games) have been incredibly stupid and have been getting sillier all the time
I absolutely agree. Then again, I like it because it isn't ashamed of its silliness. It is intentionally absurd to the point of parody. Look at it as parody - of fantasy tropes, of gaming, of popular culture, of itself. I mean, this is a game where you can get quests from He-Man, buy absurdly overpriced gear from Haris Pilton, watch Bambi's mother come back from the dead and kill the hunter, do archaeology with Harrison Jones, and ride around on a motorized tricycle while your pet tank follows you around. Orcs quote Caveman and Kermit the Frog.

And this isn't rare, hidden easter eggs, either. This is all over the place.

There's a difference between direct game play (and all those things that you named) and the depth of lore behind the original Warcraft concept (that's now over 20 years old and has inspired several games and dozens of professionally-written books). I wouldn't exactly call that "incredibly stupid".

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Sat Nov 07, 2015 2:32 am

Jag wrote:The CGI was heavier than expected. Movie looks ok but very much like the Battle of 5 Armies. Will be good for WoW fans and fantasy fans, but doubt it will get much attention otherwise.

On the other hand, the WoW Legion Cinematic was just released and I think it's fantastic.

That was pretty cool. Is that the next exp?

Blackhawk · Post by **Blackhawk** » Sat Nov 07, 2015 11:41 am

Yes. I don't know a thing about it, though. I quit WoW nine months ago, and for the first time in over a decade, I don't have much of an urge to go back. That isn't anti-WoW, just an indication that I think my time there is done.

Jag · Post by **Jag** » Sat Nov 07, 2015 1:07 pm

Daehawk wrote:
Jag wrote:The CGI was heavier than expected. Movie looks ok but very much like the Battle of 5 Armies. Will be good for WoW fans and fantasy fans, but doubt it will get much attention otherwise.

On the other hand, the WoW Legion Cinematic was just released and I think it's fantastic.
That was pretty cool. Is that the next exp?

Yes. Legion.

cheeba · Post by **cheeba** » Sat Nov 07, 2015 4:28 pm

Is there anyone who would rather have a live action/cgi mix movie than a feature-length rendered movie like they make for the game? (Credit where due, I believe I read that Gabe Newell said that in an interview).

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Sat Nov 07, 2015 7:22 pm

I thought that because it was being directed by Duncan Jones I'd be interested in this.

That trailer has proven me wrong.

Sudy · Post by **Sudy** » Sat Nov 07, 2015 11:35 pm

cheeba wrote:Is there anyone who would rather have a live action/cgi mix movie than a feature-length rendered movie like they make for the game? (Credit where due, I believe I read that Gabe Newell said that in an interview).

Interestingly, it isn't the live action + CGI orcs that kills it for me. It's that so much takes place in front of green screen, and the silly, stylized human armour that's so bulky. Yeah, it's true to the games. But on a real person it looks stupid. Also, the half-orc who's actually a human in makeup decimates my suspension of disbelief.

Blackhawk wrote:Yes. I don't know a thing about it, though. I quit WoW nine months ago, and for the first time in over a decade, I don't have much of an urge to go back. That isn't anti-WoW, just an indication that I think my time there is done.

Same.

Never say never, but after not having the cash to get the most recent expansion with Mrs. Nym at launch, I just lost all desire to play. I still want to sink my teeth into a good MMORPG (probably something slightly more sandboxy), but for all the good memories I just can't imagine going back to WoW's grinding, and that stale combat. Sure, you never have to mob grind. But the whole thing is a grind. And yeah, no one does WoW's style of combat better. But the "zillion skills" and mandatory rotations style of gameplay is just so outdated.

Blackhawk · Post by **Blackhawk** » Sun Nov 08, 2015 2:32 am

I was talking about it with some friends today. They had the same reaction I did - the CGI was fine, the live action was fine, but putting them together didn't work.

I posited the idea that they should have put the actors in full mocap gear, including their faces, then kept the performances and done CGI versions of the actors' own faces over them. It would make them match the rest of the film.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Sun Nov 08, 2015 4:58 am

Ive always wanted a full animated movie just like their cgi intros and cutscenes. They were always ahead of their time .Whats wrong with doing that?

tgb · Post by **tgb** » Sun Nov 08, 2015 9:53 am

hepcat wrote:I thought that because it was being directed by Duncan Jones I'd be interested in this.

That trailer has proven me wrong.

Doesn't the DGA have rules about one director using another's name on a project? Particularly Uwe Boll?

Because that looks like absolute shit.

AWS260 · Post by **AWS260** » Fri Jun 10, 2016 1:02 pm

First sentence of the New York Times review:

The New York Times wrote:Probably the best way to experience “Warcraft,” a generally amusing and sometimes visually arresting absurdity, is stoned.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Fri Jun 10, 2016 1:03 pm

Quality writing that is totally worth my turning off adblockers to risk my security.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Fri Jun 10, 2016 1:09 pm

I'm hearing numerous reviews that liken this to Battlefield Earth...but without the unintentional humor.

God help me, I want to see how bad it is. But I think I can wait until it shows up on cable...

...in 3 weeks.

Xmann · Post by **Xmann** » Fri Jun 10, 2016 2:14 pm

My 13 year old has been dying to see this.

Thus, I'll be the sacrificial lamb for the community and see it. Probably not until next weekend though.

YellowKing · Post by **YellowKing** » Fri Jun 10, 2016 2:20 pm

I'm taking a certain dark satisfaction with the way this thing is turning out. My friends kept telling me the trailer was awesome, and I kept telling them it looked terrible. Once again my film instincts were ON POINT.

gbasden · Post by **gbasden** » Fri Jun 10, 2016 2:32 pm

The New York Times didn't hate it. That has to say something positive about the film. That said, I'm not sure that even after 10 years playing WoW I'm that interesting in seeing it at the theater.

Vorret · Post by **Vorret** » Fri Jun 10, 2016 2:38 pm

Reviewers are giving bad reviews.
People are giving good reviews.

I think it has alot to do with the Lore and people maybe expecting an LOTR type movie where everything is explained carefully.

My guess, it's still over 7.8 on imdb afterall

edit:

8.7 user score on metacritic as well
8.2 on rotten tomatoes

Critic problem?

gilraen · Post by **gilraen** » Fri Jun 10, 2016 5:33 pm

We are going to see it on Sunday (thanks, T-Mobile, for free tickets). Since I still enjoy playing WoW and reading Warcraft lore novels - and the movie is based on one - I figured I'll probably like it regardless.

I can see where they may have a problem getting too bogged down in lore, trying to spend too much time explaining it to new audiences. Most critics on Rotten Tomatoes mention that it moves too slow (although audiences gave it 82% so far, so I guess they don't mind so much).

hitbyambulance · Post by **hitbyambulance** » Fri Jun 10, 2016 6:02 pm

i really liked _Moon_ (tho _Source Code_ was alright, if derivative). i was interested in seeing Duncan Jones' next film until i found out it was this... thing...

Jag · Post by **Jag** » Mon Jun 13, 2016 1:05 pm

My kids have no interest and sadly either do I anymore. I'll rent it when it come out.