2017-2018 NBA Post Season

Jaymann · Post by **Jaymann** » Mon Apr 25, 2016 1:11 pm

Lakers fire Byron Scott. Feel sorry for Byron since he was essentially tanking one for the team to get better draft picks. But he did not seem to do well in coaching up the young players.

Pyperkub · Post by **Pyperkub** » Mon Apr 25, 2016 2:18 pm

They want Luke Walton

rshetts2 · Post by **rshetts2** » Mon Apr 25, 2016 3:38 pm

When the Lakers fired Scott, they basically said that the team record was not the issue and that no coach could have made this roster work and then used the wonderfully vague "We have decided to go in a new direction" excuse. So I guess that means that while they are not blaming Scott for the travesty that management made of the Lakers roster, they still need to sacrifice someone to the fans. Sorry, Byron, its sucks to be you.

Ralph-Wiggum · Post by **Ralph-Wiggum** » Mon Apr 25, 2016 4:05 pm

Pyperkub wrote:They want Luke Walton

But why would Walton want them? I'm sure he's going to get plenty of offers - might as well wait for a good situation.

Jaymann · Post by **Jaymann** » Mon Apr 25, 2016 4:20 pm

Ralph-Wiggum wrote:
Pyperkub wrote:They want Luke Walton
But why would Walton want them? I'm sure he's going to get plenty of offers - might as well wait for a good situation.

And therein lies the rub. "It's the Lakers!" is heavily outweighed by, "It's the Lakers about 3-5 years from contention."

Jaymann · Post by **Jaymann** » Fri Apr 29, 2016 10:35 pm

Walton is in.

Pyperkub · Post by **Pyperkub** » Fri Apr 29, 2016 11:13 pm

Jaymann wrote:
Ralph-Wiggum wrote:
Pyperkub wrote:They want Luke Walton
But why would Walton want them? I'm sure he's going to get plenty of offers - might as well wait for a good situation.
And therein lies the rub. "It's the Lakers!" is heavily outweighed by, "It's the Lakers about 3-5 years from contention."

It's not that outweighed. The Lakers will go get players, unlike most teams searching for coaches.

Rip · Post by **Rip** » Sat Apr 30, 2016 1:51 am

Love how you can hear how much the crowd enjoyed. Nothing like a basketball crowd that knows a special play when they see it.

That's what I like to see. Much better game from Stuckey than that embarrassing performance in Game 5. All comes down to game 7 Sunday in Toronto.

Oh and that clumsy running Turner fellow out of Texas. Real glad they took him. Looks to be the steal of the draft.

Rip · Post by **Rip** » Sat Apr 30, 2016 2:31 am

Rip · Post by **Rip** » Sat Apr 30, 2016 10:28 pm

Wow, Spurs making a statement tonight.

GSW is going to need a healthy Curry to contend with them. Thunder are clearly outclassed.

Jaymann · Post by **Jaymann** » Tue May 17, 2016 11:01 pm

Woooot! Lakers get the # 2 pick in the draft!

Xmann · Post by **Xmann** » Wed May 18, 2016 8:22 am

Until I see those ping pong balls fall, I'm still suspicious.

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Jeff V · Post by **Jeff V** » Wed May 18, 2016 9:30 am

So the Bull's reward for a miserable season is a worthless draft pick. The odds have increased that next year's draft pick will be less worthless.

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Wed May 18, 2016 9:43 am

Rip wrote:Wow, Spurs making a statement tonight.

GSW is going to need a healthy Curry to contend with them. Thunder are clearly outclassed.

Hmmmmm..........

Ralph-Wiggum · Post by **Ralph-Wiggum** » Wed May 18, 2016 11:26 am

For those into NBA draft conspiracy theories, Dikembe Mutombo gave you some ammunition with his tweet about the 76er's winning the draft, 3 hours before the lottery supposedly happened...

PLW · Post by **PLW** » Wed May 18, 2016 11:31 am

Jaymann · Post by **Jaymann** » Wed May 18, 2016 3:48 pm

In what is essentially a 2 man draft then a huge drop off, 2nd position has the advantage that you can't be second guessed for picking the remaining guy.

Jaymann · Post by **Jaymann** » Wed Jun 22, 2016 6:21 pm

Blight Howard movin' on out.

I guess he didn't feel it was fair to the rest of the league to stay in Houston after all the championships they racked up.

Pyperkub · Post by **Pyperkub** » Wed Jun 22, 2016 7:15 pm

Jaymann wrote:In what is essentially a 2 man draft then a huge drop off, 2nd position has the advantage that you can't be second guessed for picking the remaining guy.

Buddy Hield and Kris Dunn could be stars quite easily and before the first 2 off of the board .

Jeff V · Post by **Jeff V** » Thu Jun 23, 2016 7:10 am

The Bulls actually manage to unload Derek "Owie" Rose! Of course, they get nothing because he's worth nothing (an equal amount of salary obligation), but he's gone. I wonder what the 2017 draft class is going to be like?

Rip · Post by **Rip** » Thu Jun 23, 2016 10:01 am

In other news the Pacers move George Hill to Utah who kick the 12th pick to Atlanta and send Jeff Teague to Indiana.

I'm glad they get Teague but will miss George Hill, he was a solid player.

So I guess they won't be going after Mike Conley in FA.

Perhaps this is a sign the may go after Horford in FA though.

Xmann · Post by **Xmann** » Thu Jun 23, 2016 10:33 am

Pyperkub wrote:
Jaymann wrote:In what is essentially a 2 man draft then a huge drop off, 2nd position has the advantage that you can't be second guessed for picking the remaining guy.
Buddy Hield and Kris Dunn could be stars quite easily and before the first 2 off of the board .

Hoping Hield can fall to the 7th pick to the Nuggets.

Jaymann · Post by **Jaymann** » Thu Jun 23, 2016 3:29 pm

Jeff V wrote:The Bulls actually manage to unload Derek "Owie" Rose! Of course, they get nothing because he's worth nothing (an equal amount of salary obligation), but he's gone. I wonder what the 2017 draft class is going to be like?

On the radio they were saying that Phil Jackson scored a coup to set up a core of Rose, Mello and Porzingas. It is to laugh.

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Thu Jun 23, 2016 3:46 pm

Jaymann wrote:
Jeff V wrote:The Bulls actually manage to unload Derek "Owie" Rose! Of course, they get nothing because he's worth nothing (an equal amount of salary obligation), but he's gone. I wonder what the 2017 draft class is going to be like?
On the radio they were saying that Phil Jackson scored a coup to set up a core of Rose, Mello and Porzingas. It is to laugh.

Were you listening to 710 with Mason & Ireland? If so i was hearing the same thing and kept chuckling to myself since I think the Knicks overpaid here. If Rose can recoup his form sure, but he's been quite fragile. And if I am wrong good for them.

Excited for the draft tonight as a whole. Part of me was kind of excited about the rumors of trading away Dangelo Russell (who i think is a great talent; I just think the whole phone fiasco is gonna hang over him professionally for a long time; and that will hurt getting free agents). We know Ingram is coming to LA, would be awesome if the Lakers could somehow get Buddy hield also.

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Thu Jun 23, 2016 3:51 pm

Newcastle wrote:We know Ingram is coming to LA, would be awesome if the Lakers could somehow get Buddy hield also.

Local radio has been trying to get rumors started that Lebron will be a Clipper and he will bring DWade and Carmello Anthony with him to play with Chris Paul.

Jeff V · Post by **Jeff V** » Thu Jun 23, 2016 5:28 pm

Newcastle wrote: I think the Knicks overpaid here.

Shirley, you're joking. The Bulls are also sending a second round draft pick, which still at least potentially worth something, unlike the $22 million of dead-weight cap-spacers that the Knicks unloaded on the Bulls. I think that was the real trade -- Rose was just thrown in to compensate for the cap hit.

Rip · Post by **Rip** » Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:22 pm

#KevINDYrant

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Thu Jun 23, 2016 11:39 pm

Very unimpressed w/ the Thunder trade. Wasn't Ibaka the defensive anchor? Kind of makes me wonder if KD is actually leaving then. I know analysts are fawning over it, but I dont think its good. Dont they lsoe some D in there?

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Thu Jun 23, 2016 11:41 pm

LordMortis wrote:
Newcastle wrote:We know Ingram is coming to LA, would be awesome if the Lakers could somehow get Buddy hield also.
Local radio has been trying to get rumors started that Lebron will be a Clipper and he will bring DWade and Carmello Anthony with him to play with Chris Paul.

There were flitters of that discussion a few days ago of Lebron to Lakers...that's just not gonna happen.

rshetts2 · Post by **rshetts2** » Fri Jun 24, 2016 10:17 am

The Pistons got a lucky pick. Most people had Henry Ellenson as a top ten pick and the Pistons were so sure that he would be gone way before the 18th pick that they didnt even bring him in for a work out. After the first few picks, the draft went a bit off the rails and Ellenson dropped into Detroits lap. Its not often you can grab a good mid range shooting, strong rebounding 7' PF/C that far back in the draft. It seems the teams in front of Detroit were quite enamored with foreign players. Ellenson helps fill the Pistons biggest need. I am very happy and a bit surprised at the Pistons draft this season.

Xmann · Post by **Xmann** » Fri Jun 24, 2016 10:32 am

I'm happy to see what the Nuggets ended up with.

Really wanted Buddy Hield, but you can't argue with Jamal Murray.

Nuggets are stock piling really good young talent. Hoping now that they can develop and keep them.

Ralph-Wiggum · Post by **Ralph-Wiggum** » Fri Jun 24, 2016 1:36 pm

Newcastle wrote:Very unimpressed w/ the Thunder trade. Wasn't Ibaka the defensive anchor? Kind of makes me wonder if KD is actually leaving then. I know analysts are fawning over it, but I dont think its good. Dont they lsoe some D in there?

Ibaka wasn't great last year, especially towards the end of the year. In fact, he had a lower efficiency rating than either of the NBA players OKC got in return and on top of that they got Sabonis. Seems like a great trade for OKC to me.

Rip · Post by **Rip** » Fri Jun 24, 2016 1:52 pm

Ralph-Wiggum wrote:
Newcastle wrote:Very unimpressed w/ the Thunder trade. Wasn't Ibaka the defensive anchor? Kind of makes me wonder if KD is actually leaving then. I know analysts are fawning over it, but I dont think its good. Dont they lsoe some D in there?
Ibaka wasn't great last year, especially towards the end of the year. In fact, he had a lower efficiency rating than either of the NBA players OKC got in return and on top of that they got Sabonis. Seems like a great trade for OKC to me.

I certainly think Oladipo will have a big impact.

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Fri Jun 24, 2016 2:03 pm

Rip wrote:
Ralph-Wiggum wrote:
Newcastle wrote:Very unimpressed w/ the Thunder trade. Wasn't Ibaka the defensive anchor? Kind of makes me wonder if KD is actually leaving then. I know analysts are fawning over it, but I dont think its good. Dont they lsoe some D in there?
Ibaka wasn't great last year, especially towards the end of the year. In fact, he had a lower efficiency rating than either of the NBA players OKC got in return and on top of that they got Sabonis. Seems like a great trade for OKC to me.
I certainly think Oladipo will have a big impact.

But it seemed to me in the GSW-Thunder series what really bothered the Warriors was the Thunders length and defense, and giving away a cornerstone of that doesn't seem to me to be the right move. Enis Kanter cant defend. Adams is decent enough. They are putting a lot of premium that Adams can really make that step up. I think that guy Roberson got played out of the gym 80% of the series.

Also I think one of the weaknesses that was exposed to the Warriors that when they go small, you can go big and really try to outrebound the ball and close down the passing lanes. IN the finals Tristan Thompson was awesome on the boards for the Cavs.

i didn't see much of Oladipo. So he's a bit of a mystery to me. I dont think Sabonis is really ready yet, he'll need a few years to develop. Cowherd said this morning Oladipo is there to counter Klay thompson, ok i get that.

Even having gone through the PERs and such, still not sure its as such a great deal for them. Wasn't Ibaka also a strong locker room presence? Again not sold that its great. OK, sure. But not as great as folks are saying.

Xmann · Post by **Xmann** » Fri Jun 24, 2016 2:41 pm

Ralph-Wiggum wrote:
Newcastle wrote:Very unimpressed w/ the Thunder trade. Wasn't Ibaka the defensive anchor? Kind of makes me wonder if KD is actually leaving then. I know analysts are fawning over it, but I dont think its good. Dont they lsoe some D in there?
Ibaka wasn't great last year, especially towards the end of the year. In fact, he had a lower efficiency rating than either of the NBA players OKC got in return and on top of that they got Sabonis. Seems like a great trade for OKC to me.

Everything I've read has OKC, between the draft and trade, has them being in terrific shape.

Newcastle wrote:
Rip wrote:
Ralph-Wiggum wrote:
Newcastle wrote:Very unimpressed w/ the Thunder trade. Wasn't Ibaka the defensive anchor? Kind of makes me wonder if KD is actually leaving then. I know analysts are fawning over it, but I dont think its good. Dont they lsoe some D in there?
Ibaka wasn't great last year, especially towards the end of the year. In fact, he had a lower efficiency rating than either of the NBA players OKC got in return and on top of that they got Sabonis. Seems like a great trade for OKC to me.
I certainly think Oladipo will have a big impact.

But it seemed to me in the GSW-Thunder series what really bothered the Warriors was the Thunders length and defense, and giving away a cornerstone of that doesn't seem to me to be the right move. Enis Kanter cant defend. Adams is decent enough. They are putting a lot of premium that Adams can really make that step up. I think that guy Roberson got played out of the gym 80% of the series.

Also I think one of the weaknesses that was exposed to the Warriors that when they go small, you can go big and really try to outrebound the ball and close down the passing lanes. IN the finals Tristan Thompson was awesome on the boards for the Cavs.

i didn't see much of Oladipo. So he's a bit of a mystery to me. I dont think Sabonis is really ready yet, he'll need a few years to develop. Cowherd said this morning Oladipo is there to counter Klay thompson, ok i get that.

Even having gone through the PERs and such, still not sure its as such a great deal for them. Wasn't Ibaka also a strong locker room presence? Again not sold that its great. OK, sure. But not as great as folks are saying.

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Sun Jul 03, 2016 8:08 pm

SO I am just gonna make this prediction - KD leaves OKC and signs up with the Warriors. I see plenty of reasons for him leaving not a lot to stay.

Rip · Post by **Rip** » Sun Jul 03, 2016 9:14 pm

Wow, the Pacers have made a lot of moves and the only one I half expected was getting Jeff Teague. I really like George Hill but I'm sure he will do well in Utah but Teague is the offensive initiator they needed.

T. Young is going to solidify the rebounding and make sure there is no need to try playing PG13 at the 4. The fact that he can hit from the floor is just icing on the cake.

Now they have landed Al Jefferson who is also solid down low and should be an awesome tutor for Myles Turner.

There is still talk they will land Rudy Gay as well which would give them like 7 or 8 guys that could start. Unless KD goes to Boston, Pacers and Cavs are the top 2 in the East this year.

Stoked!

Jaymann · Post by **Jaymann** » Mon Jul 04, 2016 2:30 am

Rip wrote:Unless KD goes to Boston, Pacers and Cavs are the top 2 in the East this year.

Nope, Blight Howard to Atlanta - that's good for at least 5 championships.

Rip · Post by **Rip** » Mon Jul 04, 2016 2:45 am

Jaymann wrote:
Rip wrote:Unless KD goes to Boston, Pacers and Cavs are the top 2 in the East this year.
Nope, Blight Howard to Atlanta - that's good for at least 5 championships.

Downgrade from Horford.

Past his prime injury prone walking distraction.

Jaymann · Post by **Jaymann** » Mon Jul 04, 2016 11:13 am

Rip wrote: Past his prime injury prone walking distraction.

But still demands (and gets) a max contract in the topsy turvy world of the NBA.