2017-2018 NBA Post Season

Pyperkub · Post by **Pyperkub** » Sat Feb 11, 2017 4:27 pm

All right Ethan! The real king!

Rip · Post by **Rip** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 11:32 am

Congrats to all the Hoosiers rocking all-star weekend.

Eric Gordon winning the 3-PT contest and especially GRIII for the awesome win in the dunk contest.

naednek · Post by **naednek** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 1:24 am

Demarcus Cousins traded to the Pelicans for 3 players and 2 draft picks

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Xmann · Post by **Xmann** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 11:53 am

Expect at least one and possibly two trades by the Nuggets the next couple days.

They are trying to actively move Gallinari and Chandler. And with the Pelicans acquiring Boogie last night, this might ramp up their efforts.

I'm also interested in seeing if they can find a really good deal to trade Mudiay. With Jamal Murray developing nicely and winning the MVP of the rising stars game, he looks to be the future. I'd be willing to give Mudiay more time since he's only 20, but he has not looked good at all this year and Murray is already caught up with him, development wise.

Future is promising for the Nuggets with Murray and Jokic playing really well. They also have a ton of cap space and could offer a king's ransom to someone like Paul George or John Wall. I don't foresee those materializing, but if they could, the Nuggets could be really really good.

Jaymann · Post by **Jaymann** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 1:38 pm

naednek wrote:Demarcus Cousins traded to the Pelicans for 3 players and 2 draft picks

Good, now the Lakers will stop going after "Boogie." Coach killer extraordinaire.

Pyperkub · Post by **Pyperkub** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 1:45 pm

Jaymann wrote:
naednek wrote:Demarcus Cousins traded to the Pelicans for 3 players and 2 draft picks
Good, now the Lakers will stop going after "Boogie." Coach killer extraordinaire.

Don't count on it until he signs a long term contract. He's still currently going to be a free agent.

Rip · Post by **Rip** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 1:55 pm

Pyperkub wrote:
Jaymann wrote:
naednek wrote:Demarcus Cousins traded to the Pelicans for 3 players and 2 draft picks
Good, now the Lakers will stop going after "Boogie." Coach killer extraordinaire.
Don't count on it until he signs a long term contract. He's still currently going to be a free agent.

Mobile is so close to NO that I doubt he would sign anywhere else cheaper. So as long as NO is willing to pay him what he is worth he isn't going anywhere.

I look forward to seeing how well he and Davis play together.

Jaymann · Post by **Jaymann** » Tue Feb 21, 2017 4:15 pm

Mitch Kupchak and Jim Buss (not sure how you fire a part owner) are out at the Lakers. Magic is now running the show.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Tue Feb 21, 2017 4:21 pm

Buss was EVP of basketball operations. He was relieved of duties. Jeanie is president. They may both own 11% of the team each, but the executive pecking order still holds.

geezer · Post by **geezer** » Tue Feb 21, 2017 11:49 pm

Rip wrote:
Pyperkub wrote:
Jaymann wrote:
naednek wrote:Demarcus Cousins traded to the Pelicans for 3 players and 2 draft picks
Good, now the Lakers will stop going after "Boogie." Coach killer extraordinaire.
Don't count on it until he signs a long term contract. He's still currently going to be a free agent.
Mobile is so close to NO that I doubt he would sign anywhere else cheaper. So as long as NO is willing to pay him what he is worth he isn't going anywhere.

I look forward to seeing how well he and Davis play together.

Do not like. The Spurs already have inexplicably ridiculous difficulties with the pelicans. Now this?

Xmann · Post by **Xmann** » Wed Feb 22, 2017 1:19 am

Damn my Nuggets better do something exciting tomorrow.

Paul George, Damian Lillard, Jimmy Butler?

Doubt it, but I love being a dreamer.

Rip · Post by **Rip** » Wed Feb 22, 2017 12:15 pm

Next up, who gets Jahlil Okafor?

Jaymann · Post by **Jaymann** » Wed Feb 22, 2017 9:13 pm

Pyperkub wrote:
Jaymann wrote:
naednek wrote:Demarcus Cousins traded to the Pelicans for 3 players and 2 draft picks
Good, now the Lakers will stop going after "Boogie." Coach killer extraordinaire.
Don't count on it until he signs a long term contract. He's still currently going to be a free agent.

Well he managed to kill Mitch Kupchak and Jim Buss by NOT signing with the Lakers.

Xmann · Post by **Xmann** » Wed Feb 22, 2017 11:57 pm

For the most part, this is a typical NBA trade deadline.

A lot of hype and little deals for big names, other than Boogie.

Nuggets appear to being set on not selling the farm for a star.

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Thu Feb 23, 2017 1:08 pm

Noel is going to Dallas and Bogut is headed to Philly. Also a top 18 protected draft pick is in there as well.

Jaymann · Post by **Jaymann** » Sat Apr 15, 2017 3:20 pm

Go Pacers, stars of the ABL*!

*Anybody But LeBron

Jaymann · Post by **Jaymann** » Tue May 16, 2017 9:09 pm

Sweeeeeeeeet! Lakers retain their pick at #2 for the third year in a row!
Celtics get the #1 pick.

Jeff V · Post by **Jeff V** » Tue May 16, 2017 9:57 pm

The Bulls had to go win their last game of the year and piss away a lottery pick themselves. Their failure of a season is complete.

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Wed May 17, 2017 3:23 am

Jaymann wrote:Sweeeeeeeeet! Lakers retain their pick at #2 for the third year in a row!

That was the only bummer in a fun three days for this Celtic fan.

Jaymann · Post by **Jaymann** » Wed May 17, 2017 8:06 am

Lakers will most likely take Lonzo Ball, which makes D'Angelo Russel expendable. Next up: Paul George.

Rip · Post by **Rip** » Wed May 17, 2017 8:30 am

Lonzo Ball will be the next overpriced problem child with a high maintenance parent to ruin a franchise.

No way I would want to take him and hopefully PG doesn't get saddled with having to play with him.

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Thu May 18, 2017 11:30 am

Rip wrote:Lonzo Ball will be the next overpriced problem child with a high maintenance parent to ruin a franchise.

No way I would want to take him and hopefully PG doesn't get saddled with having to play with him.

As a Laker fan, i think i have the expertise to weigh in here.

While I haven't heard much from Lonzo on local sports news and haven't watched him much, but this sentiment is similar to my own. No way do I want Daddy Ball near my franchise. Guy just seems like he brings all drama. That dude is just overly invested in his kids.

I much rather have De'Andre Fox, the dude from Kentucky. I only saw his UCLA-Kentucky game. BUT HOLY WOW. The speed, athleticism. Speed kills in today's NBA. He reminded me of a Russel Westbrook actually.

Also I've really, really come around to Magic being in the head honcho seat. Initially I was lukewarm because I supported Kupchack because of what he delivered (he brought us 5 championships). Plus I didn't like how he got fired. But i really like what Magic has been doing so far, and am actually quite optimistic now. Good choice on Jeanie's part. Just wish Mitch didn't have to go. But we'll see.

Jaymann · Post by **Jaymann** » Fri Jun 02, 2017 9:40 am

ABL 4
LeeBron 1

Rip · Post by **Rip** » Tue Jun 06, 2017 5:54 pm

Was that the stench of pot in the Cleveland Cavaliers’ locker room?

Bet it was that damn Kyle Korver.

rshetts2 · Post by **rshetts2** » Tue Jun 06, 2017 6:47 pm

Can you blame them? Like the guy said, it's all about pain management.

Jaymann · Post by **Jaymann** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 11:47 pm

Down goes LeeBron!
Down goes LeeBron!
Down goes LeeBron!

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:10 pm

So its the offseason...and as a Laker fan i think magic's done 2 bad moves...

I think viewed alone the following is a bad move: The lakers trading D. Russel & Mozgov to the Nets for Lopez & the 27th.
I think if that move is it, then its a horrible move. I hope its a sequence move and this somehow morphs into Paul George. But I am very disappointed in this move right now.

Secondly - the Lakers not getting Jerry West in the fold is disastrous i think. Just horrible decission making. How do you not ask him to come back? Wasn't Magic griping at one point to Buss to "ask for help". Well why wouldn't magic ask for the help of the best talent evaluator in the NBA.

I was lukewarm on magic to begin with and this sure as hell doesn't improve it. It seems he's ripping down the house that the Lakers have tried to build. I'll be patient and see what happens.

As far as the draft...god i hope they dont draft lonzo...just dont want the dad around. Really hope they grab the Fox kid. Ah well..we'll see.

Rip · Post by **Rip** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 11:06 pm

As a Pacers fan I'm busy searching for a paper bag to put over my head.

Also I think this was pure cap move for LA. Sets them up for taking on PGs salary next year and still being able to offer LeBron (or someone else) a MAX contract. Lopez is just a one year rental. Mozgov was a multi-year anchor.

Rip · Post by **Rip** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 11:29 pm

Speaking of the Pacers.

At first I was like

But at least it would make sure the games are still entertaining.

Just hoping not to much of this stuff.

Pyperkub · Post by **Pyperkub** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 11:31 pm

Newcastle wrote:So its the offseason...and as a Laker fan i think magic's done 2 bad moves...

I think viewed alone the following is a bad move: The lakers trading D. Russel & Mozgov to the Nets for Lopez & the 27th.
I think if that move is it, then its a horrible move. I hope its a sequence move and this somehow morphs into Paul George. But I am very disappointed in this move right now.

Secondly - the Lakers not getting Jerry West in the fold is disastrous i think. Just horrible decission making. How do you not ask him to come back? Wasn't Magic griping at one point to Buss to "ask for help". Well why wouldn't magic ask for the help of the best talent evaluator in the NBA.

I was lukewarm on magic to begin with and this sure as hell doesn't improve it. It seems he's ripping down the house that the Lakers have tried to build. I'll be patient and see what happens.

As far as the draft...god i hope they dont draft lonzo...just dont want the dad around. Really hope they grab the Fox kid. Ah well..we'll see.

As someone who watched just about every ucla game this year, lonzo ball will be perfect for the Lakers and Walton's system. I expect them to contend for a playoff spot in his first year even if they don't get a free agent this year. Even having watched his TV games, when I saw him in person he was one of the fastest I've ever seen on the fast break. He will immediately make everyone better in that team. He does have some defensive liabilities, but he's good enough for the regular season defensively right now. Playoff defense is a different matter however (for now).

Rip · Post by **Rip** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 12:46 am

No way Lakers draft Lonzo and it will be a good move.

My money is on him being more trouble than he is worth.

Actually I'm still hoping the Pacers get the 2 pick for PG from them. Unless they would pick Lonzo with it because then I would explode.

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 1:15 am

Pyper - Interesting. See I only saw the tournament and thought Fox was pretty damn awesome there. So...hey...let's see what happens.

Rip - ok that lance stephenson montage you put through was pretty damn funny! WHAT!

Pyperkub · Post by **Pyperkub** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 3:17 pm

Pretty good Father's Day commercial from Foot Locker

Jaymann · Post by **Jaymann** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 3:30 pm

I actually like the Mozgov trade by the Lakers. It is a minor miracle that they jettisoned his contract, and it was pretty clear D'Angelo Russell is not "the answer." (Stat- Brook Lopez made one 3 pointer less than DR this year!). Plus they somehow picked up a #27 draft pick. I do not think the Lakers should trade to rent PG a year early when they can pick him up for no assets the year after. They aren't going anywhere next year anyway.

Pyperkub · Post by **Pyperkub** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 3:36 pm

Newcastle wrote:Pyper - Interesting. See I only saw the tournament and thought Fox was pretty damn awesome there. So...hey...let's see what happens.

Rip - ok that lance stephenson montage you put through was pretty damn funny! WHAT!

Here's Fox's lines for the year:

PPG RPG APG
16.7 4.0 4.6

Here's Ball's lines for the year:

PPG RPG APG
14.6 6.0 7.6

Fox essentially had 1 monster game against UCLA in the tourney, and other than that, he's a quick guard with a pretty bad 3-pt shot (24.6%), but a good finisher, and decent assist guy. He's definitely a 1st rounder, but...

Ball did it all year, averaged a full 3 more assists per game, is 3 inches taller and can hit from 40 feet (41.2% from 3), and took a sub-.500 team to a season-long top 10 ranking, with a win @ Kentucky. He has incredible court awareness and basketball IQ, and when he passes, he gets the ball to shooters exactly where they want it by design.

It really depends upon what you want from your PG. Do you want a potential Kyrie Irving (though Kyrie was a much better shooter coming out of college than Fox), or a potential Jason Kidd? Note that Ball also had more blocks and more steals.

For what I believe Walton and Magic are trying to do with the Lakers, Ball makes much more sense.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:46 am

So was Phil Jackson always going to be a terrible front office person, or is it joining the Knicks that has made him terrible?

Love this quote, though:

Apparently, this is just Phil Jackson’s management style. Let’s ignore everything else about what Jackson has done as the Knicks president — the fact that he’s managed a slew of awful moves in just three years as the team’s manager, that his best acquisition is Courtney Lee, that he has become increasingly devoted to the increasingly irrelevant triangle offense that none of his players are interested in playing — and think about why Jackson’s best play is to tell everybody how much he dislikes his team’s best players. He has already done everything he can to publicly diss Carmelo Anthony. Is this what the zen books are about? I kinda thought it was about focusing on your inner peace, but apparently it’s about publicly negging the people your livelihood depends on in hopes they bend to your will.

pr0ner · Post by **pr0ner** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:39 am

Jaymann wrote:I actually like the Mozgov trade by the Lakers. It is a minor miracle that they jettisoned his contract, and it was pretty clear D'Angelo Russell is not "the answer." (Stat- Brook Lopez made one 3 pointer less than DR this year!). Plus they somehow picked up a #27 draft pick. I do not think the Lakers should trade to rent PG a year early when they can pick him up for no assets the year after. They aren't going anywhere next year anyway.

There's a greater than 0 chance that LeBron James and Paul George are both Lakers for 2018-19.

Rip · Post by **Rip** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:33 pm

They did take him. At least I can look forward to the Lakers sucking for years to come despite getting PG.

Pyperkub · Post by **Pyperkub** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 11:58 pm

I love, love, love that the Warriors bought back in to get Jordan Bell in the second round. He is such a perfect fit for them. Could be the steal of the draft, reminds me so much of Draymond Green.

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Fri Jun 23, 2017 8:54 am

Pyperkub wrote: For what I believe Walton and Magic are trying to do with the Lakers, Ball makes much more sense.

Well they took him. I'm dissapointed (still prefer fox), but will see what Lonzo is like in the purple and gold and hope to be wowed. He's got a lot of hype to live up to. He does fill in a lot of needs, you're right on that. But my god i hope they muzzle the dad. I just hate that type of mouthy arrogance. I do realize I have to separate the father from the son. Look forward to seeing him in the Summer league (lonzo, not the dad).

I did find their later draft picks to be very intriguing. Almost all of em could shoot the 3ball to some degree. All of em have defense abilities and they all rebounded. I can say the Lakers going for the "gang rebounding" mentality that the Warriors have.