Legendary buys film and tv rights to Dune [movie] Dune 2021

[Jeff V]

This could all be presented in Part 2, though.

This leaves me to wonder what part 1 will encompass. Maybe to the Leto betrayal? I'm not sure I can think of another logical break point.

[Daehawk]

Probably right after that with Paul in the desert.

[Jeff V]

That's kind of simulatenous. Paul went to the desert before Leto actually died, Yueh tried to booby trap Leto so he would kill the baron; Paul was already on the lam at that point. When Leto died, Paul sensed it and told Jessica.

[Holman]

Previews have shown us Paul and Jessica with blue-within-blue eyes, and we see Paul fighting Harkonnens alongside Fremen. The movie must go up to when they've both gone native.

[Holman]

This YouTuber produces a lot of good DUNE content, and he has impressions here after seeing the first 10 minutes of the movie plus the Spice Harvester scene. He gives lots of details in this video.

tl;dr He was completely blown away and thinks the movie will be extraordinary.

[Holman]

Wow, here's more. Stephen Colbert (himself a known SFF nerd) does a 17-minute interview with DUNE cast members. Really worth watching. Lots of great details.



EDIT: Apparently this is older than I thought, as it's connected to the first trailer. Still fun though.

[Daehawk]

That video is awesome. Changed my mind. Even if I dont like that one actress the rest are a must see.

[Sudy]

I think I'm going to watch The Arrival and Bladerunner 2049 again just to remind myself how good a director Villeneuve is.

I didn't realize I'd seen and really enjoyed all his English-language films.

I really hope it's great. The cast is ridiculous, but I hope not to the point of distraction. It's going to be weird seeing the third adaptation of this.


Maybe they'll do a Spiderverse thing and Sting, Brad Dourif, Giancarlo Giannini, and William Hurt will all show up as the fat, old versions of their characters.

[Anonymous Bosch]

Wow, here's more. Stephen Colbert (himself a known SFF nerd) does a 17-minute interview with DUNE cast members. Really worth watching. Lots of great details.

Definitely strikes me as the first movie worthy of actually watching in IMAX post-COVID.

[Daehawk]

Sting cant get fat. Its in his genes and contracts.

[LordMortis]

I'm still not ready to spend 2+ hours in a big room with bunches of unmasked strangers but this is tempting.

[hepcat]

I'm still not ready to spend 2+ hours in a big room with bunches of unmasked strangers but this is tempting.

but unclothed is still fine, right?

[El Guapo]

I'm still not ready to spend 2+ hours in a big room with bunches of unmasked strangers but this is tempting.

but unclothed is still fine, right?

Look, man was created in God's image, so it would be immoral to mask God's image by putting all sorts of "clothes" on.

[LordMortis]

but unclothed is still fine, right?

Not for a stranger. Maybe after a drink.

[hepcat]

I'm still not ready to spend 2+ hours in a big room with bunches of unmasked strangers but this is tempting.

but unclothed is still fine, right?

Look, man was created in God's image

God looks like Rodney Dangerfield after 8 martinis?

[El Guapo]

[gameoverman]

I haven't read the book. The trailer is a bit underwhelming to me. Lots of people staring off into the distance for one thing. It reminds me of game trailers where they show you parts of the cut scenes but no actual gameplay. The other thing that worries me is the lead actor seems very bland. I'd hate for this to be one of those movies where everyone in the movie except the lead actor is great in their roles. I'm wondering if it's by design, maybe he's supposed to be like that because that's how he is in the book.

[Holman]

I haven't read the book. The trailer is a bit underwhelming to me. Lots of people staring off into the distance for one thing. It reminds me of game trailers where they show you parts of the cut scenes but no actual gameplay. The other thing that worries me is the lead actor seems very bland. I'd hate for this to be one of those movies where everyone in the movie except the lead actor is great in their roles. I'm wondering if it's by design, maybe he's supposed to be like that because that's how he is in the book.

FWIW I've read the book many times, and I think Chalamet is a great choice.

The character Paul starts naive and unaware of his abilities. The story is really his education into his powers (and his realization of being a part of something much larger), but the plot is driven by the adults around him and their loyalty to the Atreides family. In the first half of the novel, Leto and Jessica are as important as Paul.

[Jeff V]

I haven't read the book.

The main problem with the Lynch movie was those who'd not read the book were confused, and those who did recognized what an abomination it was. I hope this is a little more coherent, but I'll wait until both movies are out before watching. Herbert did quite a bit of foreshadowing, and there could be a lot of unresolved (for non-readers) issues in a movie covering only half the book.

[gameoverman]

I think of movies like Star Wars and The Matrix, movies where the protagonist is a nobody at first. In those movies both Luke and Neo held their own in scenes with other more powerful characters, even though at first neither of them knew much or could do much. In the trailer this guy looks like he fades into the background mostly. It's just a trailer though, for all I know they are holding back on showing his best moments.

[hepcat]

I don’t get that feeling at all. Chalamet is an outstanding actor. I think he’s going to make a fantastic Paul. The trailers don’t give me any reason to think otherwise.

However, I’m still not sold on Jason Mamoa in this film. I really wish they’d gone with a much better actor.

[Archinerd]

However, I’m still not sold on Jason Mamoa in this film. I really wish they’d gone with a much better actor.

Same, but I think he'll be fine.

[hepcat]

If they continue on with the other books, Duncan Idaho becomes a much more prominent character. I just don’t think he’ll be able to pull it off if they do make those films.

He should have been cast as a Fremen leader, in my opinion. Not someone with as much self control as Duncan.

Could have been worse, I guess. Mamoa as a Mentat?

I do think Brolin is perfect as Gurney.

[Archinerd]

I had hoped Mamoa would at least be enough to stop my wife's eyes from glazing over every time I mention Dune... but no luck.

[malchior]

If they continue on with the other books, Duncan Idaho becomes a much more prominent character. I just don’t think he’ll be able to pull it off if they do make those films.

I agree but I can't help feeling that they won't go into the expanded books. At least not in any reasonable time frame. They are too challenging and divisive.

[hepcat]

Yeah, probably not. But I would love to see a big budget Children of Dune.

[Jeff V]

I'm less optimistic. Omitting Feyd's story from the first half suggests they might be overly influenced by Lynch and give that storyline the short shrift.

[hepcat]

I kind of have to agree with Jeff on that. The Baron’s plan to replace Rabban with Feyd is a fairly important part of the Baron’s storyline. At least in establishing his cunning and his willingness to sacrifice anyone for power. Without it I fear we’ll get a watered down version of the cutthroat politics that play such a big role in the books.

However, Villeneuve has built up quite a bit of credit in my eyes thanks to his past films, so I suspect he’ll cover it still in a way that works.

[Daehawk]

Ye of little Jason faith. Bah on you.

[hepcat]

I like Jason Mamoa in certain parts. And he’s definitely a good dude who deserves to become Schwarzenegger big. But his range is limited. At least at this point in his career. Maybe in time he’ll be able to move outside that limited range. But that time is not now.

[Sudy]

I like Momoa in the way I like Arnold or The Rock. Their efforts tend to be mediocre, but they have charisma and are fun to watch.

I'm more troubled that my memory of the Sci Fi miniseries gave me the impression Duncan is near Paul's age. Though that may have been more that their Paul was too old.

[hepcat]

I recently rewatched the entire SyFy miniseries for Dune and Children of Dune after coming across my DVD copies from ages ago and ripping them to my Plex server.

And yeah, the guy who played Duncan in the miniseries didn't seem that much older than the actor who played Paul.

In the books, I got the feeling that Duncan was still in his early 30s and was like a big brother to Paul. The movies and miniseries have always (mistakenly, I believe) cast an actor a little older than I think Paul should be.

[Jaymon]

Duncan is 27 years older than Paul. He is an experienced soldier who is a graduate of the advanced school for military training (Ginaz). He is old and wise enough to be the swordmaster for one of the great houses, in charge of training Paul, as well as personal security for the Duke and his family.

[hepcat]

So Paul is supposed to be 4, maybe 5 years old at the start of the film. That sounds about right.

muad'dib wanna juice box!

The kwisatz haderach has demanded the creation of a Bob the Builder ghola!

[Holman]

Duncan is 27 years older than Paul. He is an experienced soldier who is a graduate of the advanced school for military training (Ginaz). He is old and wise enough to be the swordmaster for one of the great houses, in charge of training Paul, as well as personal security for the Duke and his family.

But he's also impulsive and flamboyant. He lacks a certain self-control, which may be part of what makes him fearsome.

Spoiler:

Remember in the book when he gets roaring drunk and starts accusing Lady Jessica of being a Harkonnen agent?

Both Gurney and Duncan were terribly mis-cast in the Lynch movie. I think Brolin will be perfect, but Momoa might also pull it off.

[Holman]

I kind of have to agree with Jeff on that. The Baron’s plan to replace Rabban with Feyd is a fairly important part of the Baron’s storyline. At least in establishing his cunning and his willingness to sacrifice anyone for power. Without it I fear we’ll get a watered down version of the cutthroat politics that play such a big role in the books.

However, Villeneuve has built up quite a bit of credit in my eyes thanks to his past films, so I suspect he’ll cover it still in a way that works.

I went back and looked. While Feyd has a few lines early in the novel, all he really does is sit and listen to Piter and the Baron discuss Arrakis. His first big scene is when he fights a captured Atreides soldier in the arena, and it occurs at the novel's halfway point. He becomes more of a presence in the book after that.

Villeneuve could easily have the baron allude to his scheme in this movie but then only reveal Feyd as a character in the sequel.

[hepcat]

I'm guessing Villeneuve took that into account and we'll see it mentioned in the first film, but the introduction of the character in the second, as you wrote.

Also

[Holman]

[Archinerd]

I kind of have to agree with Jeff on that. The Baron’s plan to replace Rabban with Feyd is a fairly important part of the Baron’s storyline. At least in establishing his cunning and his willingness to sacrifice anyone for power. Without it I fear we’ll get a watered down version of the cutthroat politics that play such a big role in the books.

However, Villeneuve has built up quite a bit of credit in my eyes thanks to his past films, so I suspect he’ll cover it still in a way that works.

I went back and looked. While Feyd has a few lines early in the novel, all he really does is sit and listen to Piter and the Baron discuss Arrakis. His first big scene is when he fights a captured Atreides soldier in the arena, and it occurs at the novel's halfway point. He becomes more of a presence in the book after that.

Villeneuve could easily have the baron allude to his scheme in this movie but then only reveal Feyd as a character in the sequel.

I actually wouldn't be surprised if part 2 begins with a cold open on Feyd's knife fight.

[hepcat]

I WILLLL KILLL HIM!

I also tend to forget how the climactic knife fight in Lynch's Dune looks they choreographed it off a viewing of West Side Story. Although I also love the patented Captain Kirk kick to the midsection at the 49 second mark of that video.