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Being a decent human being is making sure you have consent at all stages. If you need an app to know you have consent, then maybe you shouldn't be trying to reproduce. You certainly shouldn't be seeing my daughters.
This has nothing to do with reproducing.

You know I have two 20 something daughters who lead their own lives. They are going to meet guys they will end up disliking, and hopefully they will meet guys who respect them. Nothing I do will change that.

Even telling them I want them to meet some guy who has money and a father with a country club membership. They just don't listen.
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Matrix wrote: Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:22 am
McNutt wrote: Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:56 am
Matrix wrote: Thu Jan 18, 2018 2:03 amLuis ck (who is still amazing and I fully think he is totally in the clear)
This, of all things, might be where you lost me. What do you mean, he's in the clear?
Ya. It wasnt best spot to place it in. What I meant was Luis ck was thrown into same pool of seedness as Winestein. And Aziz is being thrown there as well. With Aziz there, it's finally starting to strike a nerve with peope, but Luis ck is some where closer to Aziz than to Winestein, but with the histeria everyone being thrown into the same pot.
Weinstein>>>>>>>>>>>>Louis CK>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Aziz

What Louis CK did was still pretty bad since he did it to at least one person he controlled.
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There is an article on line from the local newspaper today about a family suing 2 ex-high schoolers and their parents for a sexual assault that occurred while the boys were in high school. Kind of interesting...
Documents filed by the girl’s attorneys say the sexual assault happened July 31, 2015 inside Wells’ home when school was not in session and his parents were on vacation. The amended complaint says Wells and a group of underage friends went to his Clovis home to drink beer and Fireball Cinnamon Whiskey.

Due to her youth and inexperience with alcohol, court documents say, the 16-year-old girl passed out in a hallway.

The complaint accuses Wells and Reinke of carrying the intoxicated girl into a bedroom, closing the door and sexually assaulting her.

In court papers, lawyers for Wells and Reinke contend the sex was consensual and that the girl’s carelessness and negligence “contributed to some degree to the alleged incident.”

The girl, identified in court papers as Jenny Doe, is represented by San Diego attorneys Stephen J. Estey and R. Michael Bomberger. She is seeking unspecified damages from Wells and his parents, Ronald and Cheryl Wells, as well as from Reinke and his parents, Brian and Cindy Reinke, for battery and intentional infliction of emotional distress.

Wells, now 18, and Reinke, now 19, also are accused of negligence; their parents are accused of negligent supervision of their sons.
Read more here: http://www.fresnobee.com/news/local/cri ... rylink=cpy

I wonder what legal liability the parents of the boy who didn't own the house might have? Also as a parent this is kinda scary.

And this is a long way from what Aziz Ansari is being accused of.
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Scuzz wrote: Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:04 pm

I wonder what legal liability the parents of the boy who didn't own the house might have? Also as a parent this is kinda scary.
Well, if they knew about it and stonewalled or provided cover, they could be on the hook for the "intentional infliction of emotional distress" part. Otherwise, it's a stretch.
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This seems to be the metoo thread so I, yeah, Fuck Larry Nasser.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ctims.html

This Piece of Shit rises to Joe Paterno levels
Nassar wrote in the letter that Judge Rosemarie Aquilina was conducting a 'four-day media circus' for her own gain, and claimed that 'listening to impact statements is detrimental to his mental health.'

Fifty women have delivered victim impact statements at this point, and another 55 are still scheduled to speak as new women are calling the district attorney's office to add their names to the list each day.

'She wants me to sit in the witness box next to her for all four days so the media cameras will be directed toward her,' Nassar wrote in his six-page, single-spaced complaint.
4 days? If it causes you mental anguish, how about we do it non stop for 14 years? Last count I remember was you fucked up 140 lives, you slime.
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He just wants to be sentenced and taken away.

I hope he has to stay there and listen to the women for another week if it takes that long.
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I just want to see him walk through the cell block in a cute little teddy for the first time.
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LordMortis wrote: Thu Jan 18, 2018 4:36 pm This seems to be the metoo thread so I, yeah, Fuck Larry Nasser.

This Piece of Shit rises to Joe Paterno levels
So Joe Paterno is at the same "piece of shit" level as Larry Nasser? :hand:
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em2nought wrote:
LordMortis wrote: Thu Jan 18, 2018 4:36 pm This seems to be the metoo thread so I, yeah, Fuck Larry Nasser.

This Piece of Shit rises to Joe Paterno levels
So Joe Paterno is at the same "piece of shit" level as Larry Nasser? :hand:
Not the same no but also disgusting. Covering up child molestation by one of your employees for stupid football is despicable. And I say this as a huge college football fan. Paterno's actions or lack there of are despicable and reprehensible. It's an embarrassment to Penn State that they would be ok with any type of association with him.
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em2nought wrote: Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:57 pm
LordMortis wrote: Thu Jan 18, 2018 4:36 pm This seems to be the metoo thread so I, yeah, Fuck Larry Nasser.

This Piece of Shit rises to Joe Paterno levels
So Joe Paterno is at the same "piece of shit" level as Larry Nasser? :hand:
I'm not sure how helpful it is to rank levels of pieces of shit, but Nassar is more in the Jerry Sandusky tier of shit, while Paterno is in the MSU administration/US Gymnastics administration tier of shit.
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ImLawBoy wrote: Fri Jan 19, 2018 11:29 am
em2nought wrote: Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:57 pm
LordMortis wrote: Thu Jan 18, 2018 4:36 pm This seems to be the metoo thread so I, yeah, Fuck Larry Nasser.

This Piece of Shit rises to Joe Paterno levels
So Joe Paterno is at the same "piece of shit" level as Larry Nasser? :hand:
I'm not sure how helpful it is to rank levels of pieces of shit, but Nassar is more in the Jerry Sandusky tier of shit, while Paterno is in the MSU administration/US Gymnastics administration tier of shit.
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What Nasser did is far, far worse than what Paterno did.
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Is it possible to harass your soul mate?
U.S. Rep Pat Meehan said Tuesday he had developed a deep “affection” for a younger aide and told her that he saw her as “a soul mate” as they talked over ice cream one night last year, but in an interview with the Inquirer he said he never pursued a romantic relationship with the woman, who later accused him of sexual harassment.

Meehan, a Delaware County Republican, also acknowledged that he initially reacted “selfishly” when he found out the aide, decades younger than him, had entered into a serious relationship with another man, and shared a heartfelt, hand-written letter he wrote to her in May wishing her well, but also thanking God “for putting you into my life and for all that we have seen and experienced and genuinely shared together.”
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Garrison Keillor
Minnesota Public Radio has provided additional details of allegations of sexual harassment against humorist Garrison Keillor, saying his alleged conduct went well beyond his account in November of accidentally touching a woman’s bare back.

MPR said in a statement Tuesday that Keillor was accused by a woman who worked on his “A Prairie Home Companion” radio show of dozens of sexually inappropriate incidents over several years, including requests for sexual contact and explicit sexual communications and touching.

MPR said the woman, whom it has not identified, detailed the allegations in a 12-page letter that included excerpts of emails and written messages. MPR said as it attempted to investigate the case, Keillor and his attorney refused to grant access to his computer, emails and text messages.

Keillor did not respond to an emailed request for comment from The Associated Press. He told the Minneapolis Star Tribune listeners were angry over his firing because they “smelled a rat” and “they know I’m not abusive.” He called the woman’s account “a highly selective and imaginative piece of work” drawn up by her attorney.
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He should have stopped asking to sample her powder milk biscuits.
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My wife had a meltdown two nights ago. She felt like I was treating her like she was too fragile by only putting on boring documentaries and then ignoring them, so to prove the point she decided to go watch Ash vs. Evil Dead.

Of course, within 45 seconds of firing that up, she's watching an aged Bruce Campbell dry-hump some partially nude actress and she lost it. A day-long fight ensued with me being the villain for supporting the filthy film industries that victimize women. Haven't I learned ANYTHING from #MeToo? Don't I know what these actresses go through?

All I could say was that I feel badly for any woman that's victimized and harassed, but she can't automatically assume that anyone who bares their ass for a camera is an unwilling participant in a Hollywood scandal. That assumption takes power away from other women who are making their own choices freely.

It's been something like 36 hours, and she's still trying to recover.

Still riding the pendulum. :happy-partydance:

I don't know how to process that in terms of this whole thing. I mean - are all women victims in cinema, and everyone's taking advantage of them - or is this an okay thing and she's off the deep end? How do you separate films like the ones where Salma Hayek was essentially forced into sexualized scenes from the ones where it's just part of the movie? Knowing what Salma went through makes me never want to see that movie, ever. But if I didn't know that, it would never factor into my decision.
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I want your stories to be just embellishments or jokes. Because if they are 100 percent true I do not envy you at all. :shock:
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Paingod wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2018 8:53 am My wife had a meltdown two nights ago. She felt like I was treating her like she was too fragile by only putting on boring documentaries and then ignoring them, so to prove the point she decided to go watch Ash vs. Evil Dead.

Of course, within 45 seconds of firing that up, she's watching an aged Bruce Campbell dry-hump some partially nude actress and she lost it. A day-long fight ensued with me being the villain for supporting the filthy film industries that victimize women. Haven't I learned ANYTHING from #MeToo? Don't I know what these actresses go through?

All I could say was that I feel badly for any woman that's victimized and harassed, but she can't automatically assume that anyone who bares their ass for a camera is an unwilling participant in a Hollywood scandal. That assumption takes power away from other women who are making their own choices freely.

It's been something like 36 hours, and she's still trying to recover.

Still riding the pendulum. :happy-partydance:

I don't know how to process that in terms of this whole thing. I mean - are all women victims in cinema, and everyone's taking advantage of them - or is this an okay thing and she's off the deep end? How do you separate films like the ones where Salma Hayek was essentially forced into sexualized scenes from the ones where it's just part of the movie? Knowing what Salma went through makes me never want to see that movie, ever. But if I didn't know that, it would never factor into my decision.
Um, I just want to go on record here and suggest that Ash vs Evil Dead is not the show for your wife to watch. The lead character is intentionally, comically, written as misogynistic to a factor of 10, with an ad infinum cherry on top.

Unless, of course, you guys are bored and feel like you haven't had any good Life conversations lately....
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hepcat wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2018 9:49 am I want your stories to be just embellishments or jokes.
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It's been a long time since we've had this happen. She swore she wasn't going to flip out as long as I wasn't just out there looking for movies with T&A, and that's been mostly true. I guess she was feeling overdue.
Freyland wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2018 9:53 amUm, I just want to go on record here and suggest that Ash vs Evil Dead is not the show for your wife to watch. The lead character is intentionally, comically, written as misogynistic to a factor of 10, with an ad infinum cherry on top.
She's not in on the joke. I tried explaining it. She knew I was watching this when she took the kids to cub scouts, and knew it was cheesy (she's seen Army of Darkness and didn't care for it). She was trying to prove she could handle "my" movies and it exploded spectacularly in her face.
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Paingod wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2018 9:54 am She was trying to prove she could handle "my" movies and it exploded spectacularly in her face.
It's too bad your face was also in the blast range though. :(

Also, anyone who hates Army of Darkness is an enemy to all that is good in this world!
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David Copperfield is the next contestant, apparently.
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For what he did to the Statue of Liberty?
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Larry Nassar was sentenced to 40 to 175 years in prison.
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Jaymann wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2018 11:01 am Larry Nassar was sentenced to 40 to 175 years in prison.
The 54-year-old Nassar was also sentenced last month to serve 60 years in prison on federal child pornography charges, which, with Wednesday's sentence, ensures that he will spend the rest of his life in prison.
And that's nothing until Texas get ahold of him:
Convicted ex-USA Gymnastics physician Larry Nassar treated athletes at the famed Karolyi Ranch near Houston without a Texas medical license, the state's medical board confirmed to The Dallas Morning News on Wednesday.
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By law, any out-of-state physician traveling with a sports team to Texas - say during a Dallas Cowboys game - is practicing here without a license, according to the Texas Medical Board.

To do so, technically, is a third-degree felony. But Texas officials have not enforced that law.
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State Sen. Don Huffines, R-Dallas, tried to remedy the situation in 2017 when he proposed a bill that would have exempted out-of-state doctors from licensing requirements when visiting Texas for specific sporting events. The bill did not pass.
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When unlicensed doctors in Texas come to the attention of the state’s medical board, they are issued a “cease and desist” letter from the licensing agency, Schneider said.

No such letters were ever sent to Nassar, indicating that the former Olympic team doctor never came to the board’s attention.
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Isgrimnur wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2018 11:17 am By law, any out-of-state physician traveling with a sports team to Texas - say during a Dallas Cowboys game - is practicing here without a license, according to the Texas Medical Board.

To do so, technically, is a third-degree felony. But Texas officials have not enforced that law.
That's insane. If they're not going to enforce the law, why strike down the bill allowing sports physicians to travel with their team?
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Nassar isn't going anywhere anytime soon, like a life time or two, so why would Texas waste time and money on something like this.
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Scuzz wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2018 1:17 pm Nassar isn't going anywhere anytime soon, like a life time or two, so why would Texas waste time and money on something like this.
Even if someone is serving 43 life sentences, they'll still get charged with shoplifting if it turns out they did that, too. I think it's all about closing things out correctly.
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hepcat wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2018 10:34 am For what he did to the Statue of Liberty?
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When will Las Vegas finally have its Weinstein moment?
While much of the rest of the country has been shining a light on the shadowed world of sexual harassment in business and politics, audacious Las Vegas has somehow managed to slip much of the scrutiny.

Sure, freshman Congressman Ruben Kihuen has buried his promising career in scandal, and on a smaller scale boorish former state Sen. Mark Manendo resigned from the Legislature 23 years after it was determined he violated the Legislature’s anti-harassment policy.

But that’s almost quaint compared to the innumerable ugly tales of sexual harassment associated with the casino industry, where for decades some executives have been known to treat the hired help like morsels in an endless buffet. The stories of abuse aren’t difficult to find, but they are hard to drag into a reportable light. For some reason, such workers are almost always shy about challenging gambling empires run by a handful of powerful corporate kings.
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Whether casino mogul Steve Wynn ever fits into that ugly category remains to be seen. But the confidential 2005 settlement he entered into with a former employee is being placed in such a light by attorneys for his ex-wife, Elaine Wynn, in the one-time power couple’s bitter battle over the control of her shares of Wynn Resorts. Bloomberg first reported the issue Dec. 28 and called Steve Wynn’s settlement a secret that “refuses to go away.”
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Paingod wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2018 9:54 am
hepcat wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2018 9:49 am I want your stories to be just embellishments or jokes.
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Dude. I do not envy your life. She sounds certifiable.
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gbasden wrote: Sat Jan 27, 2018 2:08 am
Paingod wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2018 9:54 am
hepcat wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2018 9:49 am I want your stories to be just embellishments or jokes.
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Dude. I do not envy your life. She sounds certifiable.
Jeez, man. Insulting the man’s wife over her alleged hang ups is probably not as supportive of him as you imagine. I think also that doing so in this particular thread is ironic. Isn’t it ironic?
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RuperT wrote: Sun Jan 28, 2018 12:42 am Jeez, man. Insulting the man’s wife over her alleged hang ups is probably not as supportive of him as you imagine. I think also that doing so in this particular thread is ironic. Isn’t it ironic?
Who said they were supporting him? Not to mention there is an entire history of Paingod's posts on the subject which give more details and context. She is very clearly not well adjusted. That doesn't make her certifiable, but it does mean that simply existing is a tough proposition for her.
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I am entirely empathetic of Paingod. Having to deal with a day of screaming simply because she chose to watch a TV show is rough and not his fault. Him being blamed for the sins of Hollywood, real or imagined, is beyond my grasp. If I was insulting to you, I sincerely apologize.
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gbasden wrote: Sun Jan 28, 2018 6:24 amIf I was insulting to you, I sincerely apologize.
I'm not insulted. For those who read the diary regarding my marriage, many people thought I should leave because her behavior was inexplicable and irrational - or thought that I was simply seeking attention and making it up. I do love my wife, and wouldn't trade in what we have together. I think every relationship has work that needs to be done, and across 90% of the rest of our views, we jive perfectly. That's hard for me to find.

Most of the time now she's just fine, but a number of recent factors have put everything on edge - the #MeToo movement (the sheer scale of it) and our illustrious president are two big ones. She lives in a world with very thin filters and can be easily hurt by things a lot of people wouldn't even notice. She has since apologized for her explosive reaction and relative normalcy has returned.
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maybe Woody Allen is finally going down now.
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Hollywood hypocrisy has shielded him for years. They'll condemn everything but their own in most situations. But now even their own are speaking up. I still think they're mostly worthless excuses for human beings though.

As for Woody himself, I love his work, but what he did to Mia Farrow alone is worth getting his ass kicked to the curb.
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You're talking about the Mia that slept with Frank while she was married to Woody?

I really don't like that Hollywood is making him persona non grata. Allen is accused of molesting his 7-year-old daughter and now it's not cool to think that maybe, just maybe, he didn't do it. There is a pretty compelling argument on his side, but people just have to assume this man is guilty because it's unfashionable to come to the defense of someone accused of that crime.

I have no idea if he did it or not. My gut tells me he didn't. Still, it would take a lot more than what I've seen to make me want to ruin him.
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Considering that Allen married his adopted daughter, I'm not sure he gets much benefit of the doubt.
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