With the way this FA market is going it doesn't seem like he would be getting those dollars elsewhere. His peripherals are sliding and most teams that are expecting to compete for the playoffs are trying to reset their luxury tax penalties. If he wants his money this was probably the best bet. And, other than money, what does it cost the Phillies? It costs them their 3rd rounder, but only four players have put up more than 6 career WAR from that spot - Zack Cozart, Jordy Mercer, DJ LeMaheiu and John Olerud. It is a move similar to Detroit signing Ivan Rodriguez in 2004 or the Nats signing Jayson Werth in 2011: We're ready to be respectable again and hope to be in the playoffs during this contract. Add Arrieta to Carlos Santana and they're ready to be taken seriously.
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Because if any place needs to host this gastronomic circus, it's New York City, home of the average fan. At least food-only tickets are reasonable at $25, which includes water and soda. Three beer tickets push you to $40.MLB FoodFest is a two-day, indoor festival in New York City that gives fans the opportunity to try dishes from all 30 ballparks.
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Boras and Tommy Hunter convinced him to take the money. Can't blame him, he was almost out of baseball when he went to the Cubs.Kelric wrote: ↑Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:18 amWith the way this FA market is going it doesn't seem like he would be getting those dollars elsewhere. His peripherals are sliding and most teams that are expecting to compete for the playoffs are trying to reset their luxury tax penalties. If he wants his money this was probably the best bet. And, other than money, what does it cost the Phillies? It costs them their 3rd rounder, but only four players have put up more than 6 career WAR from that spot - Zack Cozart, Jordy Mercer, DJ LeMaheiu and John Olerud. It is a move similar to Detroit signing Ivan Rodriguez in 2004 or the Nats signing Jayson Werth in 2011: We're ready to be respectable again and hope to be in the playoffs during this contract. Add Arrieta to Carlos Santana and they're ready to be taken seriously.
No way a contending club matches that money. With bonuses he can get up to $30M in year 4 and 5, the option years.
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You'll need more than 3 beers to wash down that big bowl of Seattle grasshoppers.Isgrimnur wrote: ↑Tue Mar 13, 2018 1:50 pm Food Fest
Because if any place needs to host this gastronomic circus, it's New York City, home of the average fan. At least food-only tickets are reasonable at $25, which includes water and soda. Three beer tickets push you to $40.MLB FoodFest is a two-day, indoor festival in New York City that gives fans the opportunity to try dishes from all 30 ballparks.
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All things considered, this is a nice contract for Jake. If he maintains current levels (or even regains some of that 2015 form) and the Phillies are in the thick of pennant races after 3 years, I could easily see them picking up the option (assuming the bottom doesn't otherwise fall out of the market). If he continues his decline or if the Phillies rebuild is a bust, then he's still got $75M to console himself with before signing a much lower contract in 3 years.LawBeefaroni wrote: ↑Tue Mar 13, 2018 5:09 pmBoras and Tommy Hunter convinced him to take the money. Can't blame him, he was almost out of baseball when he went to the Cubs.Kelric wrote: ↑Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:18 amWith the way this FA market is going it doesn't seem like he would be getting those dollars elsewhere. His peripherals are sliding and most teams that are expecting to compete for the playoffs are trying to reset their luxury tax penalties. If he wants his money this was probably the best bet. And, other than money, what does it cost the Phillies? It costs them their 3rd rounder, but only four players have put up more than 6 career WAR from that spot - Zack Cozart, Jordy Mercer, DJ LeMaheiu and John Olerud. It is a move similar to Detroit signing Ivan Rodriguez in 2004 or the Nats signing Jayson Werth in 2011: We're ready to be respectable again and hope to be in the playoffs during this contract. Add Arrieta to Carlos Santana and they're ready to be taken seriously.
No way a contending club matches that money. With bonuses he can get up to $30M in year 4 and 5, the option years.
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How about those Twins? If they don't make any more moves they'll be at a team record $126M payroll.... but that plummets to $39M guaranteed for 2019. With six guys entering their 2nd or 3rd years of arbitration and seven entering their first it will obviously rise, but they are well positioned moving forward.
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As long as the Giants still suck, it's all good
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Damn Turner got his wrist broken, probably won't play until May. Sigh. The Dodgers say they aren't going to sign a temp replacement but we'll have to see how the team does without him.
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Cobb to the Orioles, supposedly, and if he passes the notorious physical. That said, with Cashner looking ok in ST, I'm a little happier with Bundy, Gausman, Cashner and Cobb (and maybe Tillman rebounds), than I was at the start of the offseason. Sure, we aren't printing playoff tickets, but it should make things more competitive when I down at the ballpark attending games.
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Two things, one of which is a little R&P related.
1) In the Omnibus spending bill that may pass by tomorrow, MLB has successfully lobbied Congress to exempt minor league players from federal labor law. Hooray?
2) Yu Darvish was filthy against the Rangers yesterday. Here's hoping I can see him pitch in person when the Cubs roll through DC this season.
1) In the Omnibus spending bill that may pass by tomorrow, MLB has successfully lobbied Congress to exempt minor league players from federal labor law. Hooray?
2) Yu Darvish was filthy against the Rangers yesterday. Here's hoping I can see him pitch in person when the Cubs roll through DC this season.
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The underpayment of MiLB players is ridiculous. If a franchise has 200 minor leaguers and pays them $28k a year (about twice the federal poverty level) they'd only be putting out $5.6M a year in salaries. Some MLB players who make around $5.6M right now - Kevin Gausman, Pedro Strop, and Scooter Gennett. One Scooter Gennett would make a world of difference in the lives of 200 other athletes.
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The Cobb signing may work out, but I can see why GM's would be reluctant to give an aging pitcher already coming off Tommy John a long term contract.Baroquen wrote: ↑Tue Mar 20, 2018 11:14 pm Cobb to the Orioles, supposedly, and if he passes the notorious physical. That said, with Cashner looking ok in ST, I'm a little happier with Bundy, Gausman, Cashner and Cobb (and maybe Tillman rebounds), than I was at the start of the offseason. Sure, we aren't printing playoff tickets, but it should make things more competitive when I down at the ballpark attending games.
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Uh what?? What happened with MadBum??
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Madison Bumgarner Hand Injury After Hit by Line Drive Diagnosed as Fracture
According to Andrew Baggarly of The Athletic, Bumgarner will undergo surgery Saturday to have pins put in place in his knuckle. The pins will be removed in four to six weeks, and the pitcher said he believes he will pitch before the All-Star break.
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Well the Dodgers lost JT Turner to a hit by a pitch. More reason in my opinion to have the DH rule, stupid to lose your best pitcher that way.
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Bumgarner wasn't batting when he was hit, so your DH argument fails here.
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Yeah I found that out finally. He put his hand up to stop a pitch apparently, dumb idea?
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Yeah I was thinking the same thing but I do wonder if it were to happen again would he do the same thing. I bet not.
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So, Opening day is this week. Didn't it always used to be the day of the NCAA basketball championship (or at least that Sunday for the Reds)? why almost a week earlier now?
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Salvy Perez slipped last night carrying his luggage and has MCL tear. Out 4-6 weeks.
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Knees are kind of important for a catcher.
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I don't think most minor leaguers are paid by MLB. Isn't it only the guys on the 40 man roster?Kelric wrote: ↑Thu Mar 22, 2018 8:40 pm The underpayment of MiLB players is ridiculous. If a franchise has 200 minor leaguers and pays them $28k a year (about twice the federal poverty level) they'd only be putting out $5.6M a year in salaries. Some MLB players who make around $5.6M right now - Kevin Gausman, Pedro Strop, and Scooter Gennett. One Scooter Gennett would make a world of difference in the lives of 200 other athletes.
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Research suggests that minimum minor league salaries set by the CBA is limited to covered MLBPA members, which is limited to 40-man rosters.
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This article suggests MLB pays MiLB salaries. The CBA only covers MLBPA members, which does not include minor leaguers, but the big league franchises still pay them (I think).Isgrimnur wrote: ↑Thu Mar 29, 2018 10:45 am Research suggests that minimum minor league salaries set by the CBA is limited to covered MLBPA members, which is limited to 40-man rosters.
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Yeah, the ringers tend to be making millions while inn the juniors. It's on the interest of developing these chosen few that they support the entire minor league system. They've been doing this forever, I bet if they had a do-over they'd use college instead like football and basketball.
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That's just sad, I mean really, can't get one friggin run on opening day, against a pitcher not named MadBum.
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I'm guessing it depends on the minor league team. Some minor league teams are completely owned by the major league team. Other leagues are completely unaffiliated with MLB.Kelric wrote: ↑Thu Mar 29, 2018 8:30 pmThis article suggests MLB pays MiLB salaries. The CBA only covers MLBPA members, which does not include minor leaguers, but the big league franchises still pay them (I think).Isgrimnur wrote: ↑Thu Mar 29, 2018 10:45 am Research suggests that minimum minor league salaries set by the CBA is limited to covered MLBPA members, which is limited to 40-man rosters.
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