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Re: Philips HUE Lights?

Post by hentzau » Sat Dec 23, 2017 9:12 pm

Was over at my wife’s cousin’s house for a holiday party tonight. He’s kind of like a genius savant with technology and data mining...sold his first data mining company for several million dollars a few years ago, when he was like 28. Anyway, he’s in the process of swapping out his whole house with new smart bulbs he had made to his specifications in China. So he had these just laying around:

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He also had about another 2 boxes similarly filled. So he told me to grab a few to try out at home. So I got 4 Philips Hue White ambience bulbs to play with. And a Lutron remote. Now I need to figure out what to do with them.
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Re: Philips HUE Lights?

Post by Kurth » Wed Jan 03, 2018 6:04 pm

I'm afraid I'm getting hooked on the home automation thing. After unwrapping all our Christmas loot and using up a few gift cards, our set up:

- Garage: 1 HUE Motion Sensor set to trigger a Leviton Decora Smart Wifi Switch turning all garage lights on when it senses motion
- Basement/Gaming room: HUE bridge, 2 HUE color A19s and 1 HUE white A19 in an overhead fixture
- TV Room: 1 HUE white A19 in a table lamp (needed to find a place for it, and it's nice as a dimmed reading light)
- Living Room: 4 HUE white ambiance BR30s in overhead cans
- Older Son's BR: 4 HUE white ambiance BR30s in overhead cans and 1 HUE color A19 in his bedside lamp; one Echo Spot
- Younger Son's BR: 2 HUE white A19s in an overhead fixture; 1 TP Link Smart Plug controlling his multi-light standing floor lamp; one Echo Dot
- Daughter's BR: 3 HUE white A19s in an overhead fixture; 1 white A19 and 1 HUE color A19 in a standing floor; one Echo Dot

We've pretty much ditched the HUE app and are controlling everything through iOS Homekit, using a new iPad as a hub. So far, everything has worked really well, with one exception: The motion sensor in the garage seems to be pretty inconsistent in that it regularly detects motion as it should, but it doesn't always trigger the smart switch. It's almost as if there's an extended lag between the two. Any thoughts on that?

Also, any thoughts on mixing HUE bulb types in one overhead fixture? Say, in a 3 bulb overhead fixture, what's the best ratio of color to white? Is it a waste to load it up with three colors, or does that really maximize the effect?
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Re: Philips HUE Lights?

Post by The Meal » Wed Jan 03, 2018 6:30 pm

Sounds fantastic!

I found iConnectHUE (iOS app) before Homekit was available, so I haven't really given the Apple implementation its fair shake.

In terms of your garage delay, it could be a few things. How close are your garage Hue devices to the next closest Hue items (the mesh system requires proximity and things which affect 2.4GHz and 5GHz signals such as walls and mirrors and the like will affect your Hue network)? I didn't do the math, but how many Hue devices are you running off that one Bridge? If you aren't doing animations or the like, I think 40-ish is the reasonable cap (while documentation gives you the green light up to 63, I believe). Finally, with our seven Hue motion detectors, I do occasionally partially lose function. For us it manifests as an inability to detect lack of motion (i.e., when folks have cleared out of the room). It doesn't happen to all detectors and it doesn't have much in the way of consistency. It also takes a while (months) to manifest. The solution is to reset the device (1-second paperclip to the back, then reconnect to the network via software), and all is peachy again.

In terms of color lights in fixtures, I've found the more the merrier. With frosted fixtures there is already some intensity attenuation, so I'm all for loading them up to maximize output. Not sure how the implementation works in Homekit, but back in the dark ages (haw!) when I used the Philips app, I'd have to create a faux room ("entryway fixture") to maintain ease in syncing colors for all those bulbs. iConnectHue and Alexa both allow you to have one bulb in multiple <rooms|groups> so the implementation of such a setup is pain free. One bulb could simultaneously be in the "Poker Room", "Wall Sconce", and "Basement" groups and any mention of any of those features would control its behavior.

Oh, and the garage is a great place for an Echo Dot. Lo-Fi music when you're putzing around out there, but also a nice "Echo, turn off Whole House" when you are walking out the door or "Echo, turn on Bedroom" when you're coming back in.

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Re: Philips HUE Lights?

Post by Kurth » Sun Feb 04, 2018 4:07 pm

Ok, quick question: I want to move some of my color Philip Hue lights to the living room and have them all turn green when the Eagles score during the Super Bowl today. What’s my best option for an app that will cover this?
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Re: Philips HUE Lights?

Post by Shinjin » Mon Feb 12, 2018 3:03 am

My wife and I are currently using a couple of Hue white bulbs in our bedroom bedside table lamps as faux sunrise lamps. This works reasonably well, but periodically, maybe a couple of times a month, one of the bulbs will 'reset' to its dimmest setting. Sometimes I can use the Hue app to re-brighten it but sometimes I have to turn the lamp off and on again. It happens to both bulbs, but not at the same time.

Any thoughts on why the bulbs do this?

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Re: Philips HUE Lights?

Post by The Meal » Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:58 am

Not sure. Does not happen to bulbs on any of my three bridges. If it happens monthly (give or take), that's way more frequent than when the hardware receives firmware updates. (Also, I'd expect FW updates to move the bulbs to the default state -- so brighter, or exactly what you do when you toggle the power to the lamps.)

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Philips HUE Lights?

Post by hentzau » Sat May 12, 2018 5:56 pm

So I have a new problem. Have a hub, and some bulbs in my game room, and I wanted to add some back lighting to my TV. I was talking to a buddy and he said he had a spare strip that I could try out, see if I like it. Well, I cannot find this light strip to save my soul. I've tried everything to get it to connect, and it just doesn't work.

I was wondering if he had connected that strip to his hub at home, and didn't delete the light from that hub, could that be preventing me from connecting it to my hub?

(I sent him a text and am waiting to hear back, but he's probably off camping this weekend and i'll have to wait until he gets home.)

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(EDIT: Nevermind. My son was reading the S/N incorrectly. Need to get his eyes checked. )
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Re: Philips HUE Lights?

Post by The Meal » Sat May 12, 2018 6:15 pm

You're right that sometimes previously-paired bulbs can't be found via a serial number search. At that point you need to do what's called a "touchlink connection", which involves bringing your turned-on bulb within 2 feet of the hub. I've *never* had that fail (and I've moved many bulbs between bridges).

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Re: Philips HUE Lights?

Post by hentzau » Sat May 12, 2018 7:35 pm

The Meal wrote:You're right that sometimes previously-paired bulbs can't be found via a serial number search. At that point you need to do what's called a "touchlink connection", which involves bringing your turned-on bulb within 2 feet of the hub. I've *never* had that fail (and I've moved many bulbs between bridges).

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I did try bringing the strip close to the hub, but it still didn’t find it via a search. But once I got the correct serial number it was able to find it.
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Post by The Meal » Mon May 14, 2018 4:32 pm

When doing the serial number search, it is very important to put in the correct serial number. :D

The touchlink search may not be in the default app (which is changing later this month to version 3.0 which returns to some of the functionality removed during 2.0, but still looks rather useless). Many of the third party apps (I'm in the iOS system, and can't recommend strongly enough iConnectHue, which is not a free app, but is so worth it) will have the touchlink search option. The app text says the device has to be within 30 cm of the hub at the time of the attempted pairing. I've got a easily portable lamp available for my touchlink purposes with any of my three hubs. It's a great thing to keep in mind if you ever run into a seemingly intractable situation with bulb pairing.

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Re: Philips HUE Lights?

Post by hentzau » Mon May 14, 2018 4:40 pm

iConnectHue, huh?

(Off to check the app store...)
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Re: Philips HUE Lights?

Post by stessier » Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:30 am

And this is why I will never get into the smart bulb trend.

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