LOTR TV series @ Amazon

[hepcat]

After the first season we’re all just going to ask why they didn’t use the giant eagles to get where they needed to go, aren’t we?

[$iljanus]

The big drama of Numenor is that Sauron seduces its rulers to the Dark Side of the Force, even leading them to attempt an invasion of the far Western Undying Lands across the sea. The island is eventually sunk beneath the waves with some Numenoreans escaping and making it to mainland Middle-earth.

Sauron at this time is a seductive and beautiful superhero rather than a giant eye and shadow, so he could easily be a main character with dialogue and everything.

Fun fact: in early versions of his writing, JRRT imagined the Numenoreans as having almost 19th-century levels of technology, complete with steam-powered battleships. This dropped away in published versions.

It would be cool if they had steampunk tech and used airships.

[hepcat]

Man, how cool would it be if the elves all drove Camaros?

[$iljanus]

Man, how cool would it be if the elves all drove Camaros?

And the Riders of Rohan found the secret of Harleys!

[hepcat]

Ooooh damn, son. You’re laying’ down some solid ideas. And what if Gandalf showed up in a van....with Gandalf painted on its side!?

Next up: why the dwarves should all be leather daddies.

[dbt1949]

And more Warhammer battles!

[Sudy]

Man, how cool would it be if the elves all drove Camaros?

Yeah! And we could have the orcs stand in for minorities/poor people and have Will Smith be the chosen one!

[$iljanus]

Ooooh damn, son. You’re laying’ down some solid ideas. And what if Gandalf showed up in a van....with Gandalf painted on its side!?

Next up: why the dwarves should all be leather daddies.

And the Hobbits are actually criminals running pipe weed across Middle Earth. Elves are particularly vulnerable to being addicted to the stuff. The Hobbits can be the "Sons of Middle Earth" but way smarter than that other gang on FX...

[hepcat]

Man, how cool would it be if the elves all drove Camaros?

Yeah! And we could have the orcs stand in for minorities/poor people and have Will Smith be the chosen one!

Well, that went places I didn't expect.

[$iljanus]

Man, how cool would it be if the elves all drove Camaros?

Yeah! And we could have the orcs stand in for minorities/poor people and have Will Smith be the chosen one!

Well, that went places I didn't expect.

I think he was referring to the Netflix series, Bright with Will Smith which was a ripoff of Alien Nation. But I liked it.

[Sudy]

I actually liked Bright a lot, but it employed some questionable stereotypes and tired tropes. Apparently they're still planning to shoot a sequel, but it's been delayed due to Smith's schedule.

[hepcat]

Ah, got it. I was a little surprised there until you put it in context.

Not a big fan of Bright. Interesting concept dumbed down for Hollywood...or at least that's how it felt to me.

[$iljanus]

Ah, got it. I was a little surprised there until you put it in context.

Not a big fan of Bright. Interesting concept dumbed down for Hollywood...or at least that's how it felt to me.

It certainly isn't as good as our vision for LOTR but it was watchable.

[hepcat]

Let's be honest: If Tolkien had known about muscle cars and cool ass vans back in his day, those things would have been all over Middle Earth.

[Pyperkub]

Let's be honest: If Tolkien had known about muscle cars and cool ass vans back in his day, those things would have been all over Middle Earth.

Under. They would have been build by Dwarves

[Blackhawk]

Nope. Saruman. "He has a mind of metal and wheels; and he does not care for growing things..." Isengard always felt like a metaphor for industrial excess (although Tolkien denied that there were any intentional metaphors in LotR, save perhaps for the Hobbits themselves.)

[hepcat]

Refresh my memory, the hobbits were a metaphor for people who ate too much and were short, right?

[Sudy]

Actually, the hobbits were modeled after "powder monkeys"... the boy seamen who transported gunpowder from a ship's hold to its artillery pieces. During the war, Tolkien lost many of his nephews and younger friends to this occupation and it was his way of memorializing them.




















And Saruman was based on Colonel Sanders.

[Blackhawk]

Refresh my memory, the hobbits were a metaphor for people who ate too much and were short, right?

He wrote them to represent the British 'common man.'

[hepcat]

So yes.

[Jeff V]

Refresh my memory, the hobbits were a metaphor for people who ate too much and were short, right?

He wrote them to represent the British 'common man.'

I thought they were an ironic metaphor to explain Andre the Giant.