Star Wars: The Last Jedi (SPOILERS)

Zarathud · Post by **Zarathud** » Thu Sep 06, 2018 8:15 am

My sister's wedding had stormtroopers doing the electric slide with Boba Fett and a Jawa. But their DJ wasn't as cool.

msteelers · Post by **msteelers** » Thu Sep 06, 2018 8:35 am

pr0ner wrote: ↑Thu Sep 06, 2018 7:41 am How much in royalties did you pay to Daft Punk?

None. We sent our monies to Deadmau5. We probably should have sent a little something to Daft Punk too, just to be safe.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Thu Sep 06, 2018 10:29 am

Is he at all concerned about marrying a Sith?

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Thu Sep 06, 2018 2:13 pm

Zarathud wrote: ↑Thu Sep 06, 2018 8:15 am My sister's wedding had stormtroopers doing the electric slide with Boba Fett and a Jawa. But their DJ wasn't as cool.

You going as a Bantha was a nice touch.

Scuzz · Post by **Scuzz** » Thu Sep 06, 2018 2:37 pm

If you have a wedding like that aren't you hoping the pictures go viral?

msteelers · Post by **msteelers** » Thu Sep 06, 2018 6:21 pm

Scuzz wrote: ↑Thu Sep 06, 2018 2:37 pm If you have a wedding like that aren't you hoping the pictures go viral?

Eh, I would say no in most cases.

Scuzz · Post by **Scuzz** » Mon Sep 10, 2018 1:51 pm

Really?

Aren't you doing it so that people will take pictures and talk about what a cool wedding you had?
Except for old guys like me who think you are just crazy.

The Meal · Post by **The Meal** » Wed Oct 03, 2018 10:08 am

Weaponizing the haters

Political discourse on social media is seen by many as polarized, vitriolic and permeated by falsehoods and misinformation. Political operators have exploited all of these aspects of the discourse for strategic purposes, most famously during the Russian social media influence campaign during the 2016 Presidential election in the United States and current, similar efforts targeting the U.S. elections in 2018 and 2020. The results of the social media study presented in this paper presents evidence that political influence through manipulation of social media discussions is no longer exclusive to political debate but can now also be found in pop culture. Specifically, this study examines a collection of tweets relating to a much-publicized fan dispute over the Star Wars franchise film Episode VIII: The Last Jedi. The study finds evidence of deliberate, organized political influence measures disguised as fan arguments. The likely objective of these measures is increasing media coverage of the fandom conflict, thereby adding to and further propagating a narrative of widespread discord and dysfunction in American society. Persuading voters of this narrative remains a strategic goal for the U.S. alt-right movement, as well as the Russian Federation. The results of the study show that among those who address The Last Jedi director Rian Johnson directly on Twitter to express their dissatisfaction, more than half are bots, trolls/sock puppets or political activists using the debate to propagate political messages supporting extreme right-wing causes and the discrimination of gender, race or sexuality. A number of these users appear to be Russian trolls. The paper concludes that while it is only a minority of Twitter accounts that tweet negatively about The Last Jedi, organized attempts at politicizing the pop culture discourse on social media for strategic purposes are significant enough that users should be made aware of these measures, so they can act accordingly.

more here

Brian · Post by **Brian** » Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:06 pm

And here I thought it was just a bad movie.

McNutt · Post by **McNutt** » Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:12 pm

Does this mean that a good portion of OO are Russian bots?

Post by **ImLawBoy** » Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:13 pm

Brian wrote: ↑Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:06 pm And here I thought it was just a bad movie.

Turns out it's a good movie, and you haters are just Russian trolls and bots.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:30 pm

McNutt wrote: ↑Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:12 pm Does this mean that a good portion of OO are Russian bots?

Nyet.

Anonymous Bosch · Post by **Anonymous Bosch** » Wed Oct 03, 2018 1:12 pm

ImLawBoy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:13 pm
Brian wrote: ↑Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:06 pm And here I thought it was just a bad movie.
Turns out it's a good movie, and you haters are just Russian trolls and bots.

On the contrary; it's a deficient movie with a useful abundance of gullible, easily-baited fanboys that make for ideal trollbot-fodder due to their paucity of critical-thinking. So don't be an unthinking simpleton; it's the patriotic duty of Americans to unite in their disapproval of this cinematic travesty, thereby thwarting the Russian menace!

Post by **ImLawBoy** » Wed Oct 03, 2018 1:32 pm

Anonymous Bosch wrote: ↑Wed Oct 03, 2018 1:12 pm
ImLawBoy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:13 pm
Brian wrote: ↑Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:06 pm And here I thought it was just a bad movie.
Turns out it's a good movie, and you haters are just Russian trolls and bots.
On the contrary; it's a deficient movie with a useful abundance of gullible, easily-baited fanboys that make for ideal trollbot-fodder due to their paucity of critical-thinking. So don't be an unthinking simpleton; it's the patriotic duty of Americans to unite in their disapproval of this cinematic travesty, thereby thwarting the Russian menace!

Bot.

Exodor · Post by **Exodor** » Wed Oct 03, 2018 1:39 pm

Anonymous Bosch wrote: ↑Wed Oct 03, 2018 1:12 pm So don't be an unthinking simpleton; it's the patriotic duty of Americans to unite in their disapproval of this cinematic travesty, thereby thwarting the Russian menace!

originally from the UK

We must not allow foreign meddling in our cinematic discussions!

coopasonic · Post by **coopasonic** » Wed Oct 03, 2018 1:54 pm

McNutt wrote: ↑Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:12 pm Does this mean that a good portion of OO are Russian bots?

Only if they hated it because women and POC had lines. If they hated it because slow mo space chase or Luke died because... tired?, that's legit.

McNutt · Post by **McNutt** » Wed Oct 03, 2018 2:21 pm

I'll scream about this until the cows come home (whatever the hell that means), but the number of times a standoff was "resolved" by having at least one of the parties getting knocked out or randomly incapacitated was terrible.
1. Luke and Kylo in the hut.
2. Kylo and Rey in the throne room
3. Finn, Rose and the pathetic Captain Phasma on the ship

There might have been more. That's just crap writing.

Anonymous Bosch · Post by **Anonymous Bosch** » Wed Oct 03, 2018 2:51 pm

Exodor wrote: ↑Wed Oct 03, 2018 1:39 pm
Anonymous Bosch wrote: ↑Wed Oct 03, 2018 1:12 pm So don't be an unthinking simpleton; it's the patriotic duty of Americans to unite in their disapproval of this cinematic travesty, thereby thwarting the Russian menace!

originally from the UK

We must not allow foreign meddling in our cinematic discussions!

Anti-immigrant bigotry!

DD* · Post by DD* » Fri Oct 05, 2018 3:47 pm

Rewatched this today to see if it was as bad as I remember. I actually fell asleep in the theater the first time, and true to form almost dozed off while I had it running on Netflix today.

Luke’s character(?) was completely off, the writing was both bad and lazy throughout, and the whole thing had no flow at all. Ugh. I can’t think of any redeeming features at all. And once again, Chewie is completely ignored.

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LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Fri Oct 05, 2018 4:06 pm

ImLawBoy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 03, 2018 1:32 pm
Anonymous Bosch wrote: ↑Wed Oct 03, 2018 1:12 pm
ImLawBoy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:13 pm
Brian wrote: ↑Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:06 pm And here I thought it was just a bad movie.
Turns out it's a good movie, and you haters are just Russian trolls and bots.
On the contrary; it's a deficient movie with a useful abundance of gullible, easily-baited fanboys that make for ideal trollbot-fodder due to their paucity of critical-thinking. So don't be an unthinking simpleton; it's the patriotic duty of Americans to unite in their disapproval of this cinematic travesty, thereby thwarting the Russian menace!
Bot.

Scuzz · Post by **Scuzz** » Fri Oct 05, 2018 5:21 pm

If movie was made in Russia it would have been classic.

$iljanus · Post by **$iljanus** » Fri Oct 05, 2018 7:08 pm

Scuzz wrote:If movie was made in Russia it would have been classic.

And the First Order would win glorious victory against the subversives.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Tue Oct 09, 2018 9:25 am

$iljanus wrote: ↑Fri Oct 05, 2018 7:08 pm
Scuzz wrote:If movie was made in Russia it would have been classic.
And the First Order would win glorious victory against the subversives.

I mean, that is pretty much what happened.

$iljanus · Post by **$iljanus** » Tue Oct 09, 2018 5:40 pm

El Guapo wrote:
$iljanus wrote: ↑Fri Oct 05, 2018 7:08 pm
Scuzz wrote:If movie was made in Russia it would have been classic.
And the First Order would win glorious victory against the subversives.
I mean, that is pretty much what happened.

But in Russia, the terrorists would have been liquidated at the end and the third movie devoted to the great work of the First Order.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Tue Oct 09, 2018 9:55 pm

$iljanus wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 5:40 pm
El Guapo wrote:
$iljanus wrote: ↑Fri Oct 05, 2018 7:08 pm
Scuzz wrote:If movie was made in Russia it would have been classic.
And the First Order would win glorious victory against the subversives.
I mean, that is pretty much what happened.
But in Russia, the terrorists would have been liquidated at the end and the third movie devoted to the great work of the First Order.

Well, the terrorists were reduced to just the contents of the Millennium Falcon by the end of the movie, so that's pretty much liquidated. 99% liquidated, anyhow.

Who knows, maybe that's the way they'll go with the third movie.

Scuzz · Post by **Scuzz** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 12:09 pm

Maybe Rey is going to find herself pregnant with twins. Turns out Solo's boy did all little more than we knew about in SW7.

DD* · Post by DD* » Wed Oct 10, 2018 3:04 pm

Scuzz wrote:Maybe Rey is going to find herself pregnant with twins. Turns out Solo's boy did all little more than we knew about in SW7.

Not Solo - it was the midichlorians. Weren’t you paying attention during the classic scene in Phantom Menace?

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morlac · Post by **morlac** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 3:16 pm

El Guapo wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 9:55 pm
$iljanus wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 5:40 pm
El Guapo wrote:
$iljanus wrote: ↑Fri Oct 05, 2018 7:08 pm
Scuzz wrote:If movie was made in Russia it would have been classic.
And the First Order would win glorious victory against the subversives.
I mean, that is pretty much what happened.
But in Russia, the terrorists would have been liquidated at the end and the third movie devoted to the great work of the First Order.
Well, the terrorists were reduced to just the contents of the Millennium Falcon by the end of the movie, so that's pretty much liquidated. 99% liquidated, anyhow.

Who knows, maybe that's the way they'll go with the third movie.

Just like it started thanks to the Han Solo solo movie. See, he really funded the whole rebellion to begin with back in the day but somehow nobody remembered so he got to act all cool and can't be bothered in A new Hope. So now we get to see them reboot the flashback movie reboot that was hinted at in the Solo. Know what I mean? It's gonna be Awesome! Or maybe not.

morlac · Post by **morlac** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 3:20 pm

DD* wrote: ↑Wed Oct 10, 2018 3:04 pm
Scuzz wrote:Maybe Rey is going to find herself pregnant with twins. Turns out Solo's boy did all little more than we knew about in SW7.
Not Solo - it was the midichlorians. Weren’t you paying attention during the classic scene in Phantom Menace?

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No, no, No. They had cross universe sex during one of their cross universe phone call moments. She said she could feel the good in him but really she was felling good with him in her. Cross universe conversations can get messy and confusing. That scene got cut though.

Scuzz · Post by **Scuzz** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 5:28 pm

DD* wrote: ↑Wed Oct 10, 2018 3:04 pm
Scuzz wrote:Maybe Rey is going to find herself pregnant with twins. Turns out Solo's boy did all little more than we knew about in SW7.
Not Solo - it was the midichlorians. Weren’t you paying attention during the classic scene in Phantom Menace?

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What is this Phantom Menace you write about?

RuperT · Post by **RuperT** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 7:47 pm

I’m excited to see just how powerful a menace will arise such that the force ghost bunch don’t just immediately show up and lightning the shit out of it, or drop Leiah’s favorite thermal detonator at its feet!

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Tue Oct 23, 2018 10:42 am

IGN

Mark Hamill has said that the Force killed Luke Skywalker at the end of The Last Jedi, likening Luke to a drug addict that overdoses after going clean for decades.

Hamill said this in a tweet that includes frames from Gary Whitta’s The Last Jedi comic book adaptation of the film, showing Luke’s final moments after using a force projection from Ahch-To.

...
Hamill recently reconfirmed that he would appear in Episode IX, though he had previously noted that he didn’t care about returning to Star Wars following the death of Carrie Fischer.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Tue Oct 23, 2018 1:06 pm

Bah, I still believe he OD'd on gilk.

dbt1949 · Post by **dbt1949** » Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:41 pm

Star Trek beamed him into their universe.

Redfive · Post by **Redfive** » Sun Mar 03, 2019 2:17 am

Star Wars 9 leaks: 'George Lucas to FIX Luke Skywalker and course correct after Last Jedi'

Never thought I'd be happy to see George back after the Trilogy That Shall Not be Named, but after the horrible treatment Luke Skywalker got TLJ I hope he can help..somehow.

EDIT: IF this is true, that is.

Chrisoc13 · Post by **Chrisoc13** » Sun Mar 03, 2019 6:50 am

Booooooo

Last thing we need is more George Lucas. Let the past die. People who want the original trilogy should just go watch them.

I can't wait for them to move on to the next trilogy without any of the legacy characters so we don't have to hear how people's childhood is somehow ruined by a movie.

Boooooooooooooo

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Sun Mar 03, 2019 10:12 am

+1

The kvetching is getting old. And viewing Lucas as a white knight riding in to save the franchise? The man cares about one thing: toy licensing. The reboot may have its faults, but it's still head and shoulders above that last abomination Lucas foisted on the world. I'll take gilk drinking, maniacal Luke over Jesus Skywalker any day of the week.

Pyperkub · Post by **Pyperkub** » Sun Mar 03, 2019 1:11 pm

We loved Luke at the end of The Last Jedi. I still don't understand the hate, except for just wanting more.

JCC · Post by **JCC** » Sun Mar 03, 2019 1:22 pm

Pyperkub wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2019 1:11 pm We loved Luke at the end of The Last Jedi. I still don't understand the hate, except for just wanting more.

Agreed. I love Star Wars but am definitely not a fanatic about it. I know 2 people who are die hards. One (who is one of my best friends) and another who I used to work with. My friend has major problems with how they handled Luke and my former co-worker was totally fine with it. (Shrugs.)

Rumpy · Post by **Rumpy** » Sun Mar 03, 2019 1:45 pm

Yeah, I don't get it either. I found it perfectly in keeping with what came before. Fans have been reading the EU for ages, and this trilogy has lifted some things from it including a Luke that's been tempted by the Dark side. It's called character growth. One shouldn't expect a character that we haven't seen for nigh 20 years hidden as a hermit in some corner of the galaxy to be the same character we last saw in Return of the Jedi. Those are just unrealistic expectations. One has to realize that this version of Luke we see later on has seen and done things that have affected him deeply, and I feel it's perfectly understandable for him to be bitter and cynical.

Really though, Luke is the least of this trilogy's problems. I'll take Luke over most of what they've done with it so far. I actually felt that his character treatment was a highlight in terms of one of the better things with this trilogy.