Super Bowl LIII

msteelers · Post by **msteelers** » Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:46 am

It’s hard because prior to this year stuff like the Clay Matthews hit wasn’t only a legal play, it was the type of play that got you to the Pro Bowl. But the league HAS to protect their top players.

And I’ve seen multiple high profile quarterbacks get knocked out for the season on plays just like the Matthews hit. When a quarterback goes down on his shoulder like that, and the defender lands on top of him with all of his weight, I’m holding my breath hoping that there isn’t a broken collarbone or other injury to the QBs shoulder.

So I can see both sides here, but I ultimately agree with what the league is trying to do.

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Mon Sep 24, 2018 10:01 am

Scuzz · Post by **Scuzz** » Mon Sep 24, 2018 1:12 pm

RunningMn9 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 24, 2018 8:41 am I mean I’m not going to get carried away and do something insane.

I’ll just note that I don’t like the rule, and continue to watch.

The problem is that there is a difference between tackling someone and falling on him and tackling someone and then driving him into the ground, and apparently many of the officials don't see those as different things. I believe the rule is written in a vague way so as to make both illegal.

You can watch any game and see plays called or not called that look exactly alike. Much like the targeting rule in college.

When the talk during a game becomes more about the definition of what something is rather than the actual action on the field you have problems, and the NFL has problems.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Mon Sep 24, 2018 6:07 pm

I really only watch to see how my fantasy players are doing these days.

I'll pull for someone in the Super Bowl although this past years was very difficult but as a Cowboys fan I could not pull for the Iggles.
And I'm only a casual Cowboy's fan these days. Not a Jerry Jones fan. I can pull for the Saints or Falcons just as well.

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:44 pm

Dolphis DE tears ACL trying to avoid getting a flag on a sack.

This rule is stupid.

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Mon Sep 24, 2018 11:34 pm

I can't help but see Will Farrell when ever I see Ben Roethlisberger.

RunningMn9 · Post by **RunningMn9** » Tue Sep 25, 2018 8:10 am

Scuzz wrote: ↑Mon Sep 24, 2018 1:12 pmThe problem is that there is a difference between tackling someone and falling on him and tackling someone and then driving him into the ground, and apparently many of the officials don't see those as different things. I believe the rule is written in a vague way so as to make both illegal.

I agree, except ratings are up, and I'm not watching any less football. Because football with the occasional stupid roughing the passer penalty is still better than !football.

msteelers · Post by **msteelers** » Tue Sep 25, 2018 1:29 pm

I’ve been watching this all day.

RunningMn9 · Post by **RunningMn9** » Tue Sep 25, 2018 1:34 pm

Poor Conte. He’s famous a few times over for being stiff-armed into oblivion. When he was on the Bears a few years back, Fred Jackson consumed his soul with a devastating stiff arm in overtime on his was to a Bills victory.

Also, several owners (and Aaron Rodgers) have come out against the Aaron Rodgers rule. I don’t know when, but this rule will get revoked at some point.

Scuzz · Post by **Scuzz** » Tue Sep 25, 2018 4:38 pm

Conte also was hurt on the play and had to leave the game. You wonder how much of that hurt was to his pride.

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Tue Sep 25, 2018 4:46 pm

RunningMn9 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 25, 2018 1:34 pm Also, several owners (and Aaron Rodgers) have come out against the Aaron Rodgers rule. I don’t know when, but this rule will get revoked at some point.

If I was Aaron Rodgers and they called it the Aaron Rodgers, I'd be against it too, but it seems to me the rule was implied before but primarily selectively applied to Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady with a few other occasional beneficiaries. I'm ambivalent about my Rodgers take though. He'd scream like primadonna high school wannabe for not getting ridiculous calls, but then if it works, why wouldn't you?

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Tue Sep 25, 2018 9:01 pm

RunningMn9 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 25, 2018 1:34 pm I don’t know when, but this rule will get revoked at some point.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/2479 ... -penalties

RunningMn9 · Post by **RunningMn9** » Tue Sep 25, 2018 10:05 pm

It’s called the Aaron Rodgers rule because it was specifically added because of the play that snapped his collarbone last year. Much like the Tom Brady rule which magically appeared after Tom Brady’s knee ligaments got snapped like twigs (and not, say, after the year before when Vince Wilfork did the exact same thing to JP Losman’s knee).

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Wed Sep 26, 2018 12:34 pm

I don't think this is going to be the Patriots year.

RunningMn9 · Post by **RunningMn9** » Wed Sep 26, 2018 12:49 pm

stessier wrote:I don't think this is going to be the Patriots year.

God I hope not.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Thu Sep 27, 2018 12:28 am

stessier wrote: ↑Wed Sep 26, 2018 12:34 pm I don't think this is going to be the Patriots year.

You didn't get around to watching Sunday's game until today?

Jaymann · Post by **Jaymann** » Thu Sep 27, 2018 12:38 am

El Guapo wrote: ↑Thu Sep 27, 2018 12:28 am
stessier wrote: ↑Wed Sep 26, 2018 12:34 pm I don't think this is going to be the Patriots year.
You didn't get around to watching Sunday's game until today?

Savoring it one quarter per day.

Baroquen · Post by **Baroquen** » Thu Sep 27, 2018 9:58 pm

Tonight's game has been a shootout thus far. Entertaining to watch, though I don't have much of a preference for one team or another. Doesn't even have serious fantasy implications. But it definitely has been more interesting than the usual TNF matches in recent memory.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Thu Sep 27, 2018 10:09 pm

One of my FF matchups is D vs. D on this game.

RunningMn9 · Post by **RunningMn9** » Thu Sep 27, 2018 10:41 pm

Isgrimnur wrote:One of my FF matchups is D vs. D on this game.

Mine is QB vs QB.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Thu Sep 27, 2018 10:42 pm

I’m currently losing the race to the bottom by one point.

msteelers · Post by **msteelers** » Fri Sep 28, 2018 7:04 am

Baroquen wrote: ↑Thu Sep 27, 2018 9:58 pm Tonight's game has been a shootout thus far. Entertaining to watch, though I don't have much of a preference for one team or another. Doesn't even have serious fantasy implications. But it definitely has been more interesting than the usual TNF matches in recent memory.

I left Cousins on the bench this week in favor of Matt Stafford.

Ralph-Wiggum · Post by **Ralph-Wiggum** » Fri Sep 28, 2018 10:33 am

I left Goff on the bench in two of my three leagues.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Fri Sep 28, 2018 10:40 am

So apparently the Dolphins have a top 3 DVOA defense so far this year? I'm going to have to pray that either that's a small sample size outlier, or that Josh Gordon plays out of his mind (in one form or another), or else the Patriots are pretty boned.

msteelers · Post by **msteelers** » Fri Sep 28, 2018 12:50 pm

El Guapo wrote: ↑Fri Sep 28, 2018 10:40 am So apparently the Dolphins have a top 3 DVOA defense so far this year? I'm going to have to pray that either that's a small sample size outlier, or that Josh Gordon plays out of his mind (in one form or another), or else the Patriots are pretty boned.

They've played the Titans, Jets, and Raiders.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Fri Sep 28, 2018 1:21 pm

msteelers wrote: ↑Fri Sep 28, 2018 12:50 pm
El Guapo wrote: ↑Fri Sep 28, 2018 10:40 am So apparently the Dolphins have a top 3 DVOA defense so far this year? I'm going to have to pray that either that's a small sample size outlier, or that Josh Gordon plays out of his mind (in one form or another), or else the Patriots are pretty boned.
They've played the Titans, Jets, and Raiders.

Well, that helps me feel better.

Though the Patriots WR corps does not.

Ralph-Wiggum · Post by **Ralph-Wiggum** » Fri Sep 28, 2018 1:26 pm

Also, Brady is 14 -1 against Miami at home. Plus, I bet he's pissed about the last game (or at least that was my justification for starting him over Goff...).

msteelers · Post by **msteelers** » Fri Sep 28, 2018 1:30 pm

El Guapo wrote: ↑Fri Sep 28, 2018 1:21 pm
msteelers wrote: ↑Fri Sep 28, 2018 12:50 pm
El Guapo wrote: ↑Fri Sep 28, 2018 10:40 am So apparently the Dolphins have a top 3 DVOA defense so far this year? I'm going to have to pray that either that's a small sample size outlier, or that Josh Gordon plays out of his mind (in one form or another), or else the Patriots are pretty boned.
They've played the Titans, Jets, and Raiders.
Well, that helps me feel better.

Though the Patriots WR corps does not.

I'm kind of leaning towards picking the Patriots in my survivor pool this week. I went with Miami last week at home over the Raiders.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Fri Sep 28, 2018 1:33 pm

Ralph-Wiggum wrote: ↑Fri Sep 28, 2018 1:26 pm Also, Brady is 14 -1 against Miami at home. Plus, I bet he's pissed about the last game (or at least that was my justification for starting him over Goff...).

Neither of those supplies a good wide receiver, or a defense that can actually stop anyone. Did you know that thus far the Patriots are leading the league in 10+ yard rushes allowed?

We'll see, though. The Patriots have certainly have had bad Septembers before, but this feels a little different.

Though Gordon is a bit of a wild card - if he plays and is amazing, that changes things.

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Fri Sep 28, 2018 1:51 pm

El Guapo wrote: ↑Fri Sep 28, 2018 1:33 pm
Ralph-Wiggum wrote: ↑Fri Sep 28, 2018 1:26 pm Also, Brady is 14 -1 against Miami at home. Plus, I bet he's pissed about the last game (or at least that was my justification for starting him over Goff...).
Neither of those supplies a good wide receiver, or a defense that can actually stop anyone. Did you know that thus far the Patriots are leading the league in 10+ yard rushes allowed?

We'll see, though. The Patriots have certainly have had bad Septembers before, but this feels a little different.

Though Gordon is a bit of a wild card - if he plays and is amazing, that changes things.

If it helps Miami lost their pass rusher. I forget the guy's name but its been all over the place because he tore his knee up making a sack and trying not to land on the QB in the process.

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Fri Sep 28, 2018 2:07 pm

El Guapo wrote: ↑Fri Sep 28, 2018 1:21 pm Though the Patriots WR corps does not.

My FF team concurs

Ralph-Wiggum wrote: ↑Fri Sep 28, 2018 1:26 pm Also, Brady is 14 -1 against Miami at home. Plus, I bet he's pissed about the last game (or at least that was my justification for starting him over Goff...).

You should have heard all the Lions talk about Brady after a double digit loss and Belichick when playing a former staff member. I wouldn't buy in to any New England lore but look solely at their opponent's ability to double team gronk. If they can easily set up a pass rush that both take Gronk out of the game and the rest of the field covered with competent backers/secondary, that's it for the Pats. I don't think they're coming back this year.

I'm feeling like proud prognosticator not buying into all the Rodgers hype pre season. I think both he and Brady are getting long the tooth. Brady will become useless over the next two seasons and I still think Rodgers is one big injury from retiring this year.

That said I still can't pick for shit in FF.

pr0ner · Post by **pr0ner** » Sun Sep 30, 2018 3:19 pm

Bears fans right now:

Spoiler:

msteelers · Post by **msteelers** » Sun Sep 30, 2018 4:50 pm

Kelric · Post by **Kelric** » Sun Sep 30, 2018 10:19 pm

Trubitsky isn't there yet on his progressions, but he can make the throws and 3-1 is 3-1.

Post by **ImLawBoy** » Mon Oct 01, 2018 1:52 am

I'm still not sold on Trubsiky being worth the No. 2 overall pick (or trading 3 draft picks to move up one one fucking spot to get him), but today he looked damn good. And this defense is great fun to watch. Holy crap is Khalil Mack awesome.

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Mon Oct 01, 2018 8:59 am

Whodathunk preseason the Bears would be the strongest team of the NFC North? Though, I did predict the Pack would have tremendous fall (after losing Rodgers to age and injury and that is still my prediction) and the Lions would take step back, I still put you in last, figuring the Vikings would walk away with it, with the other three fighting for a pathetic show at second and I actually put you as the most pathetic of the three, even if improved from last year. From where I sit, Mack was a game changer.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Mon Oct 01, 2018 9:27 am

I feel better now.

Jeff V · Post by **Jeff V** » Mon Oct 01, 2018 9:59 am

LordMortis wrote: ↑Mon Oct 01, 2018 8:59 am From where I sit, Mack was a game changer.

They already had a very good defense, but with Mack there's a whole lot of confidence that at any point during a drive, something explosive can happen. It's a vibe I haven't really felt since the mid-80's...an intimidation factor that could get into the heads of opposing QBs before the game even starts.

Jaymann · Post by **Jaymann** » Mon Oct 01, 2018 10:21 am

Very un-Chargers like victory. Usually when they get hosed like that fumble recovery that was legislated away they roll over. Instead they took it away again to seal the deal.

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Mon Oct 01, 2018 10:41 am

The Patriots need to find a way to play the Dolphins every week. Probably some stupid league rule against it though.