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Murder warrants have been issued by Metro Police for the suspect that killed four people and injured four others in a mass shooting at a Waffle House in Antioch early Sunday morning.
Police are still looking for the suspect, identified as 29-year old Travis Reinking of Treemont, Ill. He was last seen walking south down Murfreesboro Pike with black pants and no shirt.
They should charge that dumb bastard with murder as well and throw him in prison and throw away the key.The four guns he owned — including the AR-15 he brought to the Waffle House on Sunday — were given to his father by the authorities for safekeeping and his father apparently gave them back to his son, officials said. Mr. Reinking’s father could not be reached for comment on Sunday.
I would think he should be charged as an accessory or something. but a lot would depend on the court order and if it was a permanent ban.Daehawk wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 7:00 pm You'd think but no. I was just reading up on 4 stalkers of Taylor Swift. One guy threatened to kill her and her family and broke in her home plus was found with ropes gloves knives and other things on her porch. 10 years probation only. Still free.
They should charge that dumb bastard with murder as well and throw him in prison and throw away the key.The four guns he owned — including the AR-15 he brought to the Waffle House on Sunday — were given to his father by the authorities for safekeeping and his father apparently gave them back to his son, officials said. Mr. Reinking’s father could not be reached for comment on Sunday.
From the NYT article linked above.Sheriff Robert M. Huston of Tazewell County said in a news conference on Sunday that while Mr. Reinking “voluntarily surrendered” the weapons on Aug. 24, his father had a firearm owner’s identification card and a legal right to take the weapons.
The formA state police firearm disposition record shows Travis Reinking surrendered four weapons: the AR-15, a 9mm handgun and two hunting rifles.
While the form states the weapons were being revoked, it also includes a listing for the name and address of a person to whom the firearms will be transferred.
Reinking's father, who has a valid owner's card, is listed as the person who received the weapons.
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Under Illinois law, no one may give away a weapon to anyone who does not have a valid owner's card. However, there's an exemption if the transfer is a "bona fide gift" to a relative, according to state law.
"(The father) was advised that he needed to keep the weapons secure and away from Travis. (The father) stated he would comply," reads a report from the sheriff's office.
How he managed to reacquire weapons after Illinois law enforcement determined he was not legally allowed to possess any is being investigated.
But a review of Illinois and Tennessee state law shows it's likely Travis Reinking and his father did not violate any firearms laws before Travis Reinking opened fire early Sunday.
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"(The weapons) would not have been lawfully in his hands in Illinois. Now, possessing them in Tennessee, I don't know that he would have violated any Tennessee law," Anderson said.
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Law enforcement believe Reinking's father returned the weapons to Reinking. Tazewell County Sheriff Robert M. Huston said Sunday his office has no information as to when Reinking obtained his weapons after August 2017.
In Illinois, if you don't have a card, you cannot posess a firearm, gift or not. So the gift rule has to apply to card holders because there is no other legal way to posess a firearm in Illinois.Isgrimnur wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:18 pm The "bona fide gift" rule is only necessary if the recipient doesn't have a card. The father did.
"(The father) was advised that he needed to keep the weapons secure and away from Travis. (The father) stated he would comply," reads a report from the sheriff's office.
How he managed to reacquire weapons after Illinois law enforcement determined he was not legally allowed to possess any is being investigated.
But a review of Illinois and Tennessee state law shows it's likely Travis Reinking and his father did not violate any firearms laws before Travis Reinking opened fire early Sunday.
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"(The weapons) would not have been lawfully in his hands in Illinois. Now, possessing them in Tennessee, I don't know that he would have violated any Tennessee law," Anderson said.
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Law enforcement believe Reinking's father returned the weapons to Reinking. Tazewell County Sheriff Robert M. Huston said Sunday his office has no information as to when Reinking obtained his weapons after August 2017.
They're probably sweating a bit waiting on the investigation of where and when his dad gave him his guns back.Tazewell County Sheriff Robert M. Huston said Sunday his office has no information as to when Reinking obtained his weapons after August 2017.
CodeLawBeefaroni wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 4:46 pm In Illinois, if you don't have a card, you cannot posess a firearm, gift or not. So the gift rule has to apply to card holders because there is no other legal way to posess a firearm in Illinois.
Which is irrelevant in this case, as the father had a valid card.(a-10) Notwithstanding item (2) of subsection (a) of this Section, any person who is not a federally licensed firearm dealer and who desires to transfer or sell a firearm or firearms to any person who is not a federally licensed firearm dealer shall, before selling or transferring the firearms, contact the Department of State Police with the transferee's or purchaser's Firearm Owner's Identification Card number to determine the validity of the transferee's or purchaser's Firearm Owner's Identification Card.
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(a-15) The provisions of subsection (a-10) of this Section do not apply to:
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(2) transfers as a bona fide gift to the
transferor's husband, wife, son, daughter, stepson, stepdaughter, father, mother, stepfather, stepmother, brother, sister, nephew, niece, uncle, aunt, grandfather, grandmother, grandson, granddaughter, father-in-law, mother-in-law, son-in-law, or daughter-in-law;
Then it's always irrelevant because the person receiving always has to have a valid card or with parties would be in violation of state law. The gift rule just exempts both parties from having to do the verification with the ISP.
I disagree with your interpretation, but as I am not an Illinois resident nor a lawyer, I have no real skin in this game to argue it further. My interpretation doesn't impact how it will be applied by those in charge of it.LawBeefaroni wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 5:15 pmThen it's always irrelevant because the person receiving always has to have a valid card or with parties would be in violation of state law. The gift rule just exempts both parties from having to do the verification with the ISP.
It's not that open to interpretation:Isgrimnur wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 5:23 pmI disagree with your interpretation, but as I am not an Illinois resident nor a lawyer, I have no real skin in this game to argue it further. My interpretation doesn't impact how it will be applied by those in charge of it.LawBeefaroni wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 5:15 pmThen it's always irrelevant because the person receiving always has to have a valid card or with parties would be in violation of state law. The gift rule just exempts both parties from having to do the verification with the ISP.
(430 ILCS 65/2) (from Ch. 38, par. 83-2)
Sec. 2. Firearm Owner's Identification Card required; exceptions.
(a) (1) No person may acquire or possess any firearm, stun gun, or taser within this State without having in his or her possession a Firearm Owner's Identification Card previously issued in his or her name by the Department of State Police under the provisions of this Act.
(2) No person may acquire or possess firearm ammunition within this State without having in his or her possession a Firearm Owner's Identification Card previously issued in his or her name by the Department of State Police under the provisions of this Act.