movie - Rocketman ...Elton John biopic

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Mon Oct 01, 2018 1:08 pm

Based on a true fantasy it says. ,,..Ya not the North Korean little shit.

Love hearing that music. Stars Taron Egerton from Kingsman as John.

dbt1949 · Post by **dbt1949** » Mon Oct 01, 2018 2:37 pm

Altho I like his music I'm not sure his life story is worth a movie.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Mon Nov 12, 2018 12:59 am

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Mon Nov 12, 2018 1:33 am

Is that seems to be the same trailer I originally posted. Did you get the wrong link?

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Mon Nov 12, 2018 3:08 am

Possibly

McNutt · Post by **McNutt** » Mon Nov 12, 2018 9:03 am

I agree with dbt. I never wished to see his story on the big screen.

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Mon Nov 12, 2018 10:01 am

That's interesting because I don't think I've ever wished to see anyone's life on the big screen, ever, but that has never stopped me from enjoying a good biopic, which I don't seek out but enjoy when I stumble across them.

YellowKing · Post by **YellowKing** » Mon Nov 12, 2018 1:37 pm

I'm definitely interested. Love his early stuff but don't really know much about his rise to fame.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Mon Nov 12, 2018 2:18 pm

Isgrimnur wrote: ↑Mon Nov 12, 2018 3:08 amPossibly

Thats got it. TY.

I also have no interest in his story but I do think it will be interesting to watch and learn about.

Jaymann · Post by **Jaymann** » Mon Nov 12, 2018 2:45 pm

I think it is interesting that he got away with being a flaming gay boy in a very straight world. Not sure how much mass appeal that will warrant.

Z-Corn · Post by **Z-Corn** » Mon Nov 12, 2018 3:02 pm

Jaymann wrote: ↑Mon Nov 12, 2018 2:45 pm I think it is interesting that he got away with being a flaming gay boy in a very straight world.

Wait, what!?

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:05 am

Z-Corn wrote: ↑Mon Nov 12, 2018 3:02 pm
Jaymann wrote: ↑Mon Nov 12, 2018 2:45 pm I think it is interesting that he got away with being a flaming gay boy in a very straight world.
Wait, what!?

Such an outrageous statement followed by an incredulous reaction, but it is unclear just which part of the statement is the most incredulousness inducing. I'm hooked. Expound, please.

If it helps, the way I interpret Jaymann's statement is that he means the same sort of phenomenon that Liberace experienced. I mean, there were plenty of people who thought he was straight. Talk about denial. More to the point I think that in a time when homophobia was rampant and the norm, while homosexuality was viewed as a sin by charitable people, and an abomination by the rest, he was clearly gay and out of the closet even if he didn't discuss it openly, and people loved him anyway. He was popular, successful, was knighted, etc etc while clearly gay. That's no mean feat, especially given the years he rose to stardom. Meanwhile closeted homosexuals were being beaten to death because people suspected they might be gay. The juxtaposition of those two simultaneously held attitudes towards homosexuals by society is a strange, strange thing. No wonder growing up and realizing you're gay is such a stressful, anxiety inducing experience for many people. Going through puberty and falling into the norms society has set out for you is stressful enough for many.

That's my charitable interpretation of Jaymann's statement. I look forward to his explanation.

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:24 am

Jaymann wrote: ↑Mon Nov 12, 2018 2:45 pm Not sure how much mass appeal that will warrant.

Separately, I fail to see how a wildly successful and popular music star's life would not have mass appeal. His sexuality would only add to the interest in this day and age. It's like wondering out loud if anyone would be interested in Elvis' life story because he was gay (yes I know he wasn't gay. I'm trying to illustrate a point here).

Wikipedia tells me that Elton John is the 5th highest selling musician of all time. Only surpassed by the Beatles, Elvis, Michael Jackson, and, unfortunately imo opinion, Madonna (It's not that I don't think she's good, but I do not think she belongs in the same company as the rest. Then again Eminem and Rihanna are just 1 step down in the next best selling category. There's no accounting for taste, apparently). I also suspect that Madonna only recently surpassed him (sometime in the last 10 years or so maybe?) which means he was the 4th best selling artist for most of his life and career.

5th. Best. Selling. Of. All. Time.

My point is that he was and still is very popular. Like super stardom. Like the Rolling Stones would open for him stardom if they played the same venue and had the same fanbase. If Mercury can garner enough interest for a biopic, holy fucking shit Elton John is a no-brainer.

P.S. I may be under emphasizing Mercury's popularity for rhetorical purposes.

edit: I'm seeing that John and Madonna have a very turbulent, very public relationship. Perhaps he didn't like being supplanted.

edit: John also has the second highest selling single of all time. My point is he's big. People like and are interested in big people. In fact that defines their biggness. Questioning that seems... Omg, maybe Jaymann was being facetious. Lol. Apologies for taking so long to get it if so.

Rumpy · Post by **Rumpy** » Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:09 am

If anything, I'm surprised one hadn't been made earlier when he was at his peak. I'd very much consider him to be ahead of his time, and yet it felt normal, like this guy was being himself and the world was rocking with him.

And, I'd actually say I'm more interested in this than I am the Queen movie. As a person, we don't really know much of his backstory as he's always seemed to be closely guarded, so a movie that gives us a little insight into him as a person and any struggles he's had is not a bad idea.

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:25 am

I remember in the 80's when Nikita was released. It was a big hit, lots of air time, very popular. The video (MTV heyday!) had a female Russian border guard as the subject of the song, so clearly John drew the name from Russia rather than other nations where the name was popular as well. The video was all very piningly and longingly about her.

At some point all of North America was like "wait a minute, Nikita is only a masculine/male name in Russia. There is no usage of it as a female name" and you could practically hear all of NA as one go "Oh. OOoohhhh. Huh."

Rumpy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:09 am If anything, I'm surprised one hadn't been made earlier when he was at his peak.

Agreed. It's a given that he was/is going to have a movie about his life. It wouldn't surprise me if there were several, eventually. That's why I'm suddenly thinking Jaymann is screwing with us. His usage of outrageous, over the top language where he is not known for that (I don't think?) should have been the first clue.

I took his comments at face value. Oh well, no harm done. If it turns out I'm wrong, again, then I eagerly await him expanding on his thoughts on the matter. Because hilarity.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:30 am

I remember first hearing of him with Im Still Standing. Not long after I read he was gay. And that was all it was. So he is gay.

I loved Nikita . The girl in the vid looked exactly like my GF at that time. Except she had strawberry blonde / red hair at the time. The girl in the video seems to have red hair with the hat on until it shows her without it.

Kraken · Post by **Kraken** » Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:45 am

Elton was the shitz when Yellow Brick Road came out. I didn't pay much attention to him before or after that. But I'm a sucker for biopics, so it will make my netflx queue unless the reviews are bad.

Jaymann · Post by **Jaymann** » Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:42 pm

GreenGoo wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:05 am
Z-Corn wrote: ↑Mon Nov 12, 2018 3:02 pm
Jaymann wrote: ↑Mon Nov 12, 2018 2:45 pm I think it is interesting that he got away with being a flaming gay boy in a very straight world.
Wait, what!?
Such an outrageous statement followed by an incredulous reaction, but it is unclear just which part of the statement is the most incredulousness inducing. I'm hooked. Expound, please.

If it helps, the way I interpret Jaymann's statement is that he means the same sort of phenomenon that Liberace experienced. I mean, there were plenty of people who thought he was straight. Talk about denial. More to the point I think that in a time when homophobia was rampant and the norm, while homosexuality was viewed as a sin by charitable people, and an abomination by the rest, he was clearly gay and out of the closet even if he didn't discuss it openly, and people loved him anyway. He was popular, successful, was knighted, etc etc while clearly gay. That's no mean feat, especially given the years he rose to stardom. Meanwhile closeted homosexuals were being beaten to death because people suspected they might be gay. The juxtaposition of those two simultaneously held attitudes towards homosexuals by society is a strange, strange thing. No wonder growing up and realizing you're gay is such a stressful, anxiety inducing experience for many people. Going through puberty and falling into the norms society has set out for you is stressful enough for many.

That's my charitable interpretation of Jaymann's statement. I look forward to his explanation.

Captain Pedantic nailed it.

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:59 pm

Jaymann wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:42 pm Captain Pedantic nailed it.

Lol. I did your heavy lifting for you. Praise me!!

I am pedantic. I think my failing is more verbosity than pedantry however. Why not be both?!

For the record, there are less outrageous ways to express your ideas.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:18 pm

Its a little fascinating that you guys can argue over this in some way. Impressive. Younger folk have not been on the information super highway long enough to learn this level of arguing upon it. The things you two could teach them

McNutt · Post by **McNutt** » Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:54 pm

I still can't believe Daehawk had never heard of him before 1983.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:02 pm

McNutt wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:54 pm I still can't believe Daehawk had never heard of him before 1983.

Its true. I may have heard his songs but not who he was. I was a rocker..hard rocker..not a popper then.

Jeff V · Post by **Jeff V** » Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:03 pm

Kraken wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:45 am Elton was the shitz when Yellow Brick Road came out. I didn't pay much attention to him before or after that. But I'm a sucker for biopics, so it will make my netflx queue unless the reviews are bad.

This. Then when when it became known he was gay, liking him was an unpopular thing to admit to in the environment of a homophobic 1970's high school. I didn't stop listening to him on the radio, but neither did I see him in concert or wear his t-shirt. Mostly, this was due to the shift from AM-top 40 (where he was king) to FM rock stations that simply did not play that style of music.

I enjoy hearing his old hits on the radio, but over the last decade he's been excruciating to watch when I've seen him singing live). I do think his story would be an interesting one to see, but I would watch it at home and not the theater.

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:10 pm

I don't know what he was like when younger, but he's a freakin' dick as an older gentleman. Like, you're an asshole, dude.

Which typically makes biopics more interesting, not less.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Thu Feb 21, 2019 8:46 pm

I want to go back to when I posted this thread and change our life.

As is here is the latest trailer.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Thu Feb 21, 2019 9:43 pm

"Based on a true fantasy."

If the movie tends towards the fantastic (what literary types call Magic Realism), it could be terrific.

Elton John wasn't the rock star anyone would have expected. He was an invented and shifting character like David Bowie, but where Bowie came out of the glam/club/street world as an enigma, Elton John was almost a theater showman (and he shared credits with a partnered songwriter just as much as his Broadway idols did).

The movie will depend on presentation. If they present the fantasy well, it could totally transcend the by-the-book rise-to-stardom cliches of Bohemian Rhapsody.

The latest trailer hints maybe they've done it? We'll see.

Montag · Post by **Montag** » Fri Feb 22, 2019 12:13 pm

I am holding out for the Barry Manilow biopic.

Moliere · Post by **Moliere** » Fri Feb 22, 2019 12:50 pm

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