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Mass shooting in New Zealand

Post by AWS260 » Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:26 pm

Targeting two mosques.
A gunman opened fire on two mosques in central Christchurch, New Zealand, on Friday, killing multiple people, the police said.

The police said one person was in custody, but they were unsure if there were other people involved. The country’s police commissioner, Mike Bush, warned Christchurch residents to stay indoors and told anyone thinking of visiting a mosque in New Zealand today to not go.

“This is and will be one of New Zealand’s darkest days,” New Zealand’s prime minister, Jacinda Ardern, said at a news conference after the shootings.

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Post by Stefan Stirzaker » Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:38 pm

Guy was a psychopath, live streamed it, went back to execute wounded. Had 4 or 5 semi autos and at least one shotgun, then drove away saying he regretted he'd missed the women (wrong day) and he didn't get to burn down the mosque. Hope he and his friends all burn in hell.

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Post by Stefan Stirzaker » Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:59 am

27 dead, 50+ injured. IED's were planted on cars and other things. 4 People (3 male, 1 female) arrested so far. Live streamer was an aussie :( :(

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Post by Daehawk » Fri Mar 15, 2019 1:44 am

mosques in central Christchurch
Wow. What a place to have that happen. Well anywhere really but in a town called Christchurch?
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Post by $iljanus » Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:29 am

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Portions of the ghastly attack at the downtown mosque were broadcast live on social media by a man who police confirmed had also released a manifesto railing against Muslims and immigrants. The 74-page document states that he was following the example of notorious right-wing extremists, including Dylann Roof, who murdered nine black churchgoers in Charleston, S.C., in 2015.

The manifesto, littered with conspiracy theories about white birth rates and “white genocide,” is the latest sign that a lethal vision of white nationalism has spread internationally. Its title, “The Great Replacement,” echoes the rallying cry of, among others, the torch-bearing protesters who marched in Charlottesville in 2017.
Fucking white supremacy bullshit.
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Post by Holman » Fri Mar 15, 2019 8:08 am

I've drafted and deleted several posts, most of them probably too R&P for this thread. This whole thing is evil and the fruit of evil.

It's despicable that the direct inspirers of this act of terror will post and broadcast today as if they had nothing to do with it.
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Post by $iljanus » Fri Mar 15, 2019 8:44 am

I'm sure we'll get the "condemning of hate in all its forms" statement from the usual sources but you know, sometimes a particular act is so horrifying and specific that it's really okay to condemn the ideology behind it. In this case it's okay to say that White Supremacy is bad.
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Post by pr0ner » Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:29 am

This definitely gets into R&P but this is a horrific statement.

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Post by Smoove_B » Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:34 am

Wait that letter is from a senator and not the attacker?
In the document, the alleged shooter, who identifies himself as a native Australian named Brenton Tarrant, expresses the common white supremacist belief that white people are being subject to “white genocide” and “replaced” by “non-Europeans” due to “mass immigration and the higher fertility rates of the immigrants.”

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He also praised Trump himself “as a symbol of renewed white identity and common purpose.” But he disavows Trump as “a policy maker and leader.”
The act itself was horrific. Live-streaming it? Pure evil.

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Post by Skinypupy » Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:54 am

A little more info about the deplorable senator who issued that statement.
A BLOKE who got just 19 votes in a Federal election still managed to get his bum on a Senate seat. That he’s been given a platform and a $200,000 salary, shows our voting system is broken.

In his offensive and dangerous maiden speech, Senator Fraser Anning said “the final solution to the immigration problem of course is a popular vote”.

As if the call for ending Muslim immigration isn’t sufficiently divisive of itself, the use of the term “final solution” is sickening. The “Final Solution” was the appalling euphemism used by Nazis in World War II, to refer to their plan for the genocide of the Jewish people, which would see millions killed.

Not withstanding his insult to the Holocaust, his obsession with a “popular vote” is absurd. We’re being lectured to by someone whose last experience with a popular vote was winning just 19 of them.
There's a longer explanation of how he ended up in that role, but it's basically all just a complete fluke. Doesn't make his statement any less horrific, but his sentiments certainly don't seem to represent his broader constituency.
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Post by Paingod » Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:01 am

Skinypupy wrote:
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There's a longer explanation of how he ended up in that role, but it's basically all just a complete fluke.
Seems like a lot of that going around since the end of 2016.
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Post by Enough » Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:59 am

Utterly horrifying, even more so if you read comments on the articles covering it. Ugh.

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Post by LawBeefaroni » Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:03 am

Stefan Stirzaker wrote:
Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:59 am
4 People (3 male, 1 female) arrested so far. Live streamer was an aussie :( :(
If true, this isn't just a crazy piece of shit, this is an international terrorist cell. Aren't we in a war against this kind of thing? I assume we are putting pressure on Australia to allow us staging areas for bombing raids in their territory?
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Post by LawBeefaroni » Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:05 am

Also, yay Facebook!
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Post by Kraken » Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:11 am

"the final solution to the immigrant problem..." Good lord.

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Post by LawBeefaroni » Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:16 am

Well, his manifesto has gotten a few hundred million views by now probably. That's great.
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Post by Jeff V » Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:37 am

LawBeefaroni wrote:
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Well, his manifesto has gotten a few hundred million views by now probably. That's great.
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The spread of the video could inspire copycats, said CNN legal enforcement analyst Steve Moore, a retired supervisory special agent for the FBI.
"What I would tell the public is this: Do you want to help terrorists? Because if you do, sharing this video is exactly how you do it," Moore said.
"Do not share the video or you are part of this," he added.

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Post by LawBeefaroni » Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:46 am

Undoubtedly.
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Post by Stefan Stirzaker » Fri Mar 15, 2019 5:34 pm

Waleed Ali is a great host and great commentator on many things in Australia and around the world. Every word he says is well thought out. And yes unfortunately that asshole Anning is an Australian senator, well connected to white supremecy but thankfully only got in due to a fluke and will be out next election. Unfortunately like many countries, australia has an strong under current of racism and it has come out once again in this attacker.

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Post by Jaymann » Fri Mar 15, 2019 8:55 pm

New Zealand PM says gun laws will change. None of that too soon BS.
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Post by Holman » Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:19 pm

Rush Limbaugh "suggests" that the NZ terror attack was a false-flag operation.



It's not the first time. He has done this with most right-wing shootings for the past decade.
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Post by Holman » Sat Mar 16, 2019 9:55 am

There's a video going around (on my phone, can't easily link) of a teen smashing an egg on the bald head of Senator Anning (who wrote the obscene response linked above).

Anning turns around and punches the kid a couple of times in the face, flooring him. Anning supporters mob the kid, choke-holding and hitting him further.
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Here you go:

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Post by Smoove_B » Sat Mar 16, 2019 10:28 am

Taken down by guys in flip-flops? That's embarrassing.

But seriously. Where was the Senator's security team? To take a swing at him like that seems...like an odd response. Given the potential for violence (what if he had a gun or a knife as a follow up?) I can't really fault the mentality of jumping on him and pinning him to the ground, but the senator's initial response is the one that has me confused the most.

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Post by MonkeyFinger » Sat Mar 16, 2019 10:51 am

Apparently, Chelsea Clinton and "people like her" are responsible for this. And weird that I don't recall ever hearing the word "hector" and "hectoring" before. :|
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Post by hepcat » Sat Mar 16, 2019 10:59 am

Holman wrote:
Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:19 pm
Rush Limbaugh "suggests" that the NZ terror attack was a false-flag operation.



It's not the first time. He has done this with most right-wing shootings for the past decade.
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Post by $iljanus » Sat Mar 16, 2019 3:58 pm

Holman wrote:Rush Limbaugh "suggests" that the NZ terror attack was a false-flag operation.



It's not the first time. He has done this with most right-wing shootings for the past decade.
It's always "it's a false flag operation" making them sound like wannabe characters out of a Tom Clancy novel. And of course there's the usual suspects like Antifa, the deep state, the blacks, the Jews, Muslims and aliens (the terrestrial brown kind).

Just fucking own it already.
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Post by Holman » Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:01 pm

This is the best and most morally clear response from an American politician I've seen:



I could apologize for the R&P, I guess, but this issue is one that makes the distinctions irrelevant.
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Post by Alefroth » Sat Mar 16, 2019 9:22 pm

Holman wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:01 pm

I could apologize for the R&P, I guess, but this issue is one that makes the distinctions irrelevant.
Don't apologize. This is absolutely religious and political.

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