[Paris] Notre Dame cathedral fire

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Mon Apr 15, 2019 1:32 pm

CNN

And it's bad.

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Mon Apr 15, 2019 1:33 pm

Just coming to post that.

Archinerd · Post by **Archinerd** » Mon Apr 15, 2019 1:34 pm

Archinerd · Post by **Archinerd** » Mon Apr 15, 2019 1:41 pm

It's real bad. There isn't going to be much left.

hentzau · Post by **hentzau** » Mon Apr 15, 2019 1:43 pm

So tragic....

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tjg_marantz · Post by **tjg_marantz** » Mon Apr 15, 2019 1:47 pm

I'm so sad. But fucktard on chief has the answer.

Let's drop thousands of pounds of water on it.

YellowKing · Post by **YellowKing** » Mon Apr 15, 2019 1:51 pm

I'm sure nobody in Paris has thought of the best way to put this fire out. Thank God we have President Trump's massive intelligence at our disposal!

Alefroth · Post by **Alefroth** » Mon Apr 15, 2019 1:59 pm

Man, that is awful. I just clambered all over that last month in Unity.

That is absolutely the best tweet we can expect from Trump.

Octavious · Post by **Octavious** » Mon Apr 15, 2019 2:00 pm

It's reassuring knowing that the president is that annoying fuck that comments on every news article knowing exactly what should be done.

McNutt · Post by **McNutt** » Mon Apr 15, 2019 2:19 pm

Can this be the last time we mention Trump in a thread about a fire in a French landmark?

dbt1949 · Post by **dbt1949** » Mon Apr 15, 2019 2:24 pm

It was finally put out by an olde hunchback who was living there.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Mon Apr 15, 2019 2:27 pm

I got a chance to tour it back in 2000. But this is going to a huge loss for future generations.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Mon Apr 15, 2019 2:33 pm

Just think of it as job creation. It took them 182 years to build it the first time. And the folks building The Sagrada Familia will need something to do when they finish in seven years.

em2nought · Post by **em2nought** » Mon Apr 15, 2019 2:44 pm

Isgrimnur wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2019 2:33 pm the folks building The Sagrada Familia will need something to do when they finish in seven years.

I'd really like to see that one, it's almost like the architect was a cross between Salvador Dalí & M.C. Escher.

Just awful about Notre Dame.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Mon Apr 15, 2019 2:52 pm

Trump is an idiot but watching them spray pitiful streams of water around the edges does make one wonder why a helicopter bucket in the middle isn't a good idea.

Kraken · Post by **Kraken** » Mon Apr 15, 2019 2:54 pm

Here's hoping it was accidental. The cathedral's stonework will be fine and the wooden parts can be rebuilt, but the relics housed within are gone forever. Very sad day for history and architecture.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Mon Apr 15, 2019 2:59 pm

Daehawk wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2019 2:52 pm Trump is an idiot but watching them spray pitiful streams of water around the edges does make one wonder why a helicopter bucket in the middle isn't a good idea.

Air-delivered water is for forest fires out in the middle of nowhere. Paris has the infrastructure to deliver water to two million people every day, so a single firetruck is worth 100 planes.

I can't get my head around this tragedy. I just watched the spire fall down.

Zarathud · Post by **Zarathud** » Mon Apr 15, 2019 3:00 pm

Heat rises. It's dangerous/tricky to fly over.

The flames may be coming from an area water won't reach.

gilraen · Post by **gilraen** » Mon Apr 15, 2019 3:05 pm

Daehawk wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2019 2:52 pm Trump is an idiot but watching them spray pitiful streams of water around the edges does make one wonder why a helicopter bucket in the middle isn't a good idea.

The wall supports are weakened by the fire - if you hit it with tons of water from above, you'll likely cause a massive collapse of the external structure.

Hyena · Post by **Hyena** » Mon Apr 15, 2019 3:31 pm

I was fortunate enough to get to see it back in '95. Amazing structure, truly one of the wonders of architecture. This is tragic news.

msduncan · Post by **msduncan** » Mon Apr 15, 2019 3:37 pm

I think we all mourn together the loss of such a tremendous icon of human history.

msduncan · Post by **msduncan** » Mon Apr 15, 2019 3:39 pm

Kraken wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2019 2:54 pm Here's hoping it was accidental. The cathedral's stonework will be fine and the wooden parts can be rebuilt, but the relics housed within are gone forever. Very sad day for history and architecture.

Initial reports are saying it might have been caused by something related to renovation efforts that were being done.

em2nought · Post by **em2nought** » Mon Apr 15, 2019 3:41 pm

Imagine, it survived how many centuries of being lit by candlelight only to burn now.

I hope there weren't any tourists up there, seems I remember it as being a goodly trek up there.

tjg_marantz · Post by **tjg_marantz** » Mon Apr 15, 2019 4:05 pm

I want to hug this tweet so hard.

Defiant · Post by **Defiant** » Mon Apr 15, 2019 4:53 pm

-10 Happiness
-4 Faith
(too soon?)

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Mon Apr 15, 2019 4:53 pm

I've read that much of the art and statues had been removed already as part of the renovations.

Tragically, the magnificent rose windows have been destroyed as the lead melted and the glass pieces fell.

Defiant · Post by **Defiant** » Mon Apr 15, 2019 4:55 pm

From what Im hearing:

One firefighter is seriously injured.
The stone structure has been saved, will take 3-4 hours to put out the remaining fire.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:00 pm

Parisians singing Ave Maria outside the cathedral.

tjg_marantz · Post by **tjg_marantz** » Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:05 pm

Yeah that hits

msduncan · Post by **msduncan** » Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:08 pm

Yeah...the singing of Ave Maria hit me harder than I expected. Wow.

AWS260 · Post by **AWS260** » Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:16 pm

em2nought · Post by **em2nought** » Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:20 pm

The singing is very moving.

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:32 pm

"according(?) to the police drone picture, 3/4s of the cathedral is already on fire. Only the 2 towers are for the moment spared(?). 400 firefighters have mobilised".

Close enough for anyone completely in the dark re:the tweet.

Enough · Post by **Enough** » Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:48 pm

Holman wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2019 4:53 pm I've read that much of the art and statues had been removed already as part of the renovations.

Tragically, the magnificent rose windows have been destroyed as the lead melted and the glass pieces fell.

Ugh, but at least there will be a solid chance for a very expensive restoration. I studied for awhile in Budapest and it is amazing how they basically had to rebuild all of their monuments post WW II. I really hope they can save it!

Bakhtosh · Post by **Bakhtosh** » Mon Apr 15, 2019 6:11 pm

UPDATE: PARIS (AP) -- Paris police chief: Structure of Notre Dame cathedral has been saved; fire stopped from spreading to northern belfry.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Mon Apr 15, 2019 6:38 pm

In a sad coincidence, today there was a fire damaging the Al Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem, the third-holiest place in Islam and an incalculably valuable historical site.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Mon Apr 15, 2019 6:59 pm

The entire place burns except for the northern belfry and they call that a save? Damn thats a huge loss. I was just reading and watching videos on it last year.. Huge amount of lumber went into that place.

gbasden · Post by **gbasden** » Mon Apr 15, 2019 7:51 pm

Daehawk wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2019 6:59 pm The entire place burns except for the northern belfry and they call that a save? Damn thats a huge loss. I was just reading and watching videos on it last year.. Huge amount of lumber went into that place.

It's definitely a save vs. the collapse of the entire structure. The two towers being spared is definitely a win by the fire department.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:42 pm

That a wooden-interior structure in a major city in Europe survived for 900 years in an achievement in itself. Think of the wars and accidents that have afflicted so many cities since. London in 1666 basically burned to the ground, and that was more than 500 years after Notre Dame was begun.

Paris has benefited greatly from its status as historical/cultural capital. In WW2 neither power was willing to bomb it even when it made sense to do so.

Kraken · Post by **Kraken** » Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:23 pm

When we climbed into the bell tower, it was hard to even move around in the lattice of massive, ancient wooden beams. Only young, fit tourists (as we were at the time) could even make it up there. I'm not surprised that it burned as hot and fast as it did...and I'm grateful that I got to see it.