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Jaymann wrote: ↑Sat Aug 22, 2020 4:08 pmBecause nothing says evil supervillain like...Kristen Wiig.

Halfway through that trailer I started waiting for her to say "Call me crazy, one more time."

I really loved the first Wonder Woman movie. I want this one to succeed. I'm afraid the CGI (as it stands) may put a lot of people off. There's CGI characters, and then there's Gumby CGI characters. It's like the faster the character moves on the screen, the less attention they pay to the skeleton inside the body.

The CGI does give me pause. The Ares bit in the original was an issue, too. I'm not too worried about Wiig, though. Not everyone who does well in a role seems to fit the role. Keaton didn't seem like Batman, Ledger didn't seem like Joker, and Clooney should have been a great Batman.

It was okay. After watching The Batman trailer, though, it's disappointing. Different type of movie but this doesn't seem to be as well done (from the trailer).

Blackhawk wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 10:38 am The CGI does give me pause. The Ares bit in the original was an issue, too. I'm not too worried about Wiig, though. Not everyone who does well in a role seems to fit the role. Keaton didn't seem like Batman, Ledger didn't seem like Joker, and Clooney should have been a great Batman.

Good points all.

Forgive my ignorance as I really don't know much about superhero or comics, but is there a reason for setting this in 1984? I mean, from looking at the trailer, I don't get much of a reason other than the fact that it's 'cool and flashy'. I'm hoping there's more to it than that, as the first movie used its time-period brilliantly.

Rumpy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 12:19 pmForgive my ignorance as I really don't know much about superhero or comics, but is there a reason for setting this in 1984?

I believe the Marvel Comics Universe answer is "Holy shit, people LOVED the 80's vibe in Thor Ragnarok. More of THAT!"

Functionally, too, it keeps some plot lines open that get closed too easily by modern technology. If you watch the old X-Files episodes, almost all of the tension and drama hinges on the fact that the characters can't communicate with each other and lack evidence. How would those be re-written in a time when everyone has a pocket camera/computer/phone with near-global reach?

1984 was an amazing year. I wonder if Steve will stop and see part of a CHiPs rerun

Rumpy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 12:19 pm Forgive my ignorance as I really don't know much about superhero or comics, but is there a reason for setting this in 1984?

I'm not sure if its an intentional decision for the DC movie universe to try and keep the various film stories far enough apart that they can maintain some type of continuity in a larger plot that connects them all.

Thanks guys, I'm just hoping they use it as an opportunity to explore things rather than just have it set there to be flashy.

Rumpy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 12:37 pm Thanks guys, I'm just hoping they use it as an opportunity to explore things rather than just have it set there to be flashy.

I think they want to do two things: (1) flip the "fish out of water" dynamic from the first movie - last time it was Trevor showing Diana about all the weird things in the world and how to live in it, now it will be the reverse; and (2) profit off of people's nostalgia (ha ha, isn't it funny that people used to wear cargo pants!).

parachute pants

Funny large 80s pants.

Wonder Woman has been a feminist icon since the late 60s. The first film had undertones of that. If Jenkins wanted to explore that, the mid 80s would be an interesting time period.

Daehawk wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 12:22 pm 1984 was an amazing year. I wonder if Steve will stop and see part of a CHiPs rerun

I'm not sure why, but that made me laugh.

CHiPs: The zenith of 80s culture.

I hated parachute pants. Yet I had two pair of them.

Variety

Warner Bros. has postponed the release of “Wonder Woman 1984,” the latest development in Hollywood’s rocky plans to return to the movies.

The superhero sequel starring Gal Gadot, which was expected to debut on Oct. 2, will now touch down in theaters on Dec. 25, 2020.

Well, if it was originally scheduled to come out in 1984 what's a few more months.

Kraken wrote: ↑Fri Sep 11, 2020 9:28 pm Well, if it was originally scheduled to come out in 1984 what's a few more months.

But will it have portal technology?

Kraken wrote: ↑Fri Sep 11, 2020 9:28 pm Well, if it was originally scheduled to come out in 1984 what's a few more months.

Nice, I LOLed.

Jaymann wrote: ↑Fri Sep 11, 2020 9:41 pm

Kraken wrote: ↑Fri Sep 11, 2020 9:28 pm Well, if it was originally scheduled to come out in 1984 what's a few more months.

But will it have portal technology?

I recall Cleve Blakemore being asked the same thing.

A new era of wonder begins. For the first time ever, Wonder Woman 1984 will release in theaters and stream exclusively on HBO Max on the exact same day, December 25. Sign up for HBO Max today to stream Wonder Woman 1984 Christmas Day.

Smoove_B wrote: ↑Wed Nov 18, 2020 9:41 pm

A new era of wonder begins. For the first time ever, Wonder Woman 1984 will release in theaters and stream exclusively on HBO Max on the exact same day, December 25. Sign up for HBO Max today to stream Wonder Woman 1984 Christmas Day.

And unlike another streaming service, HBO Max isn’t asking for an extra 30 bucks for the privilege of streaming this movie.

Sigh. It'll be the first DC movie in a long, long time I won't see in the theater.

Wow, that’s pretty huge. I thought they’d at least make it VOD on the major services first, then release it on HBO Max after a month or two.

ARGHHHHHHH! I want to see this so badly, but can't get HBO Max and will not go to the theater.

So what are the chances there are limited run engagements once things open back up? I'd see Tenet and this for sure.

stessier wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 9:35 am ARGHHHHHHH! I want to see this so badly, but can't get HBO Max and will not go to the theater.

So what are the chances there are limited run engagements once things open back up? I'd see Tenet and this for sure.

Why can't you get HBO Max?

El Guapo wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 10:02 am

stessier wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 9:35 am ARGHHHHHHH! I want to see this so badly, but can't get HBO Max and will not go to the theater.

So what are the chances there are limited run engagements once things open back up? I'd see Tenet and this for sure.

Why can't you get HBO Max?

Only have a Roku.

stessier wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 10:03 am

El Guapo wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 10:02 am

stessier wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 9:35 am ARGHHHHHHH! I want to see this so badly, but can't get HBO Max and will not go to the theater.

So what are the chances there are limited run engagements once things open back up? I'd see Tenet and this for sure.

Why can't you get HBO Max?

Only have a Roku.

Roku supports casting from your phone now: https://support.roku.com/article/360003044933

Or, you could just hook your computer up to your TV for two hours.

I would guess HBO Max will be on Roku by Xmas.

... and it sounds like an HBO Max / Roku deal is imminent...

I'll give WW84 this - it manages to be both far too long and too short to tell a coherent story.

It’s definitely a step down from its predecessor. Probably more than one, to be honest.

The impression I've gotten just from the reviews is that this is a very love it / hate it movie. For some it is a five-star film. For others it is a two-star.

I don’t think I’ve seen anyone refer to it as a 5 star film. For the most part, it seems to be getting a resounding “meh” from most critics and in most audience reviews. It’s not horrible, but it isn’t very good either.

Although this critic apparently believes it was created by liberals to bash Trump. Go figure.

That review has to be worse than the film.

My favorite part is when he describes the dream stone as phallic. Buddy, if your penis looks like that, you need to see a specialist.

Addendum: I looked up the critic who wrote that review. He hated The Dark Knight, Get Out and Up (to name a few) but loves Jonah Hex and Grown Ups.

I'm 25 minutes in and I don't know if I can continue. The action made me yawn and Kristin Wiig's character is written so poorly that I need Tylenol because of the constant beating into my head that she's not popular.

This was a very bad opening and I have too many entertainment options to stick with this crap.

It was bad, just bad.
So many cringe-worthy moments and just stupid dialogue.
The "villians" sucked and action sequences were beyond uninteresting.
Major step down from the first.

We watched it last night.

My first instinct (after the overly long intro) was that they were going for a slightly campy original Superman vibe to mesh with the 1980s theme, and I was down for that. But as the movie went on, I realized the camp was either unintentional, or so poorly executed that it was dragging down the entire movie.

It’s a sprawling mess that should have been cut by an hour. I adore Kristen Wiig but she’s a terrible villain. And while I think Gal Gadot is a fantastic Wonder Woman, I don’t think she’s a fantastic actress.

This may be what happens when you order a Wonder Woman movie from Wish.