R.I.P. The thread of death....celebrity or otherwise

McNutt · Post by **McNutt** » Thu Feb 06, 2020 9:24 am

At no point in my life was Kirk Douglas not old.

RIP Mr Douglass. The last of the great acting generation.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Thu Feb 06, 2020 10:28 am

Weird. I could have sworn I posted last night in this thread about Douglas. Calling him more than just an actor, but a hero for his work to break the blacklist in Hollywood during the shameful days of McCarthyism. But it's not here today. I must have closed out before hitting the submit button I guess. That or one of you moderators have it in for me and are going around deleting or changing my pos

....NEVER MIND, THE MODERATORS ON OO ARE TOP NOTCH, WONDERFUL PEOPLE WHO ARE ALL IN PEAK PHYSICAL CONDITION AND ARE BURSTING WITH INTEGRITY. THEY WOULD NEVER ALTER OR DELETE ANY POSTS FROM THEIR ADORING FANS ON OO. PLEASE JOIN ME <hepcat> IN PRAISING OUR PROUD, OO LEADERS. ESPECIALLY THAT EVILHOMER3K WHO I"VE LEARNED CAN LIFT TWICE HIS OWN BODY WEIGHT AND ONCE WAS CONSIDERED A SERIOUS CHALLENGER TO GARRY KASPAROV'S TITLE.

ts. Anyway, RIP to a great actor and a great human being.

TheMix · Post by **TheMix** » Thu Feb 06, 2020 10:42 am

If it helps, hep, I remember reading that. Maybe it was in a different thread. The passing was mentioned in a couple of places on OO.

And, R.I.P.

$iljanus · Post by **$iljanus** » Thu Feb 06, 2020 12:42 pm

hepcat wrote:Weird. I could have sworn I posted last night in this thread about Douglas. Calling him more than just an actor, but a hero for his work to break the blacklist in Hollywood during the shameful days of McCarthyism. But it's not here today. I must have closed out before hitting the submit button I guess. That or one of you moderators have it in for me and are going around deleting or changing my pos

....NEVER MIND, THE MODERATORS ON OO ARE TOP NOTCH, WONDERFUL PEOPLE WHO ARE ALL IN PEAK PHYSICAL CONDITION AND ARE BURSTING WITH INTEGRITY. THEY WOULD NEVER ALTER OR DELETE ANY POSTS FROM THEIR ADORING FANS ON OO. PLEASE JOIN ME <hepcat> IN PRAISING OUR PROUD, OO LEADERS. ESPECIALLY THAT EVILHOMER3K WHO I"VE LEARNED CAN LIFT TWICE HIS OWN BODY WEIGHT AND ONCE WAS CONSIDERED A SERIOUS CHALLENGER TO GARRY KASPAROV'S TITLE.

ts. Anyway, RIP to a great actor and a great human being.

Now Hepcat, how many lights do you see...?

Along with Spartacus, one of my biggest memories of him was his performance in a movie called The Fury.

He was a good Van Gogh too.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Thu Feb 06, 2020 12:46 pm

$iljanus wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2020 12:42 pm Along with Spartacus, one of my biggest memories of him was his performance in a movie called The Fury.

He was a good Van Gogh too.

Oh sheesh, I remember The Fury. I had a Fangoria Magazine with an article on it...and the infamous "bloody mid air spinning" scene. I didn't get up the nerve to watch it until I was in my late teens though. And by that time, it wasn't quite as shocking as I expected.

The Fury and The Manitou were B movie horror films starring classic Hollywood stars (Tony Curtis for The Manitou). There seemed to be quite a few of those in the late 70s.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Thu Feb 06, 2020 1:10 pm

I liked him and Tony in the 1958 classic The Vikings.

Anonymous Bosch · Post by **Anonymous Bosch** » Thu Feb 06, 2020 1:30 pm

hepcat wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2020 10:28 am ts. Anyway, RIP to a great actor and a great human being.

If by "great human being", you mean notorious sexual harasser and alleged rapist of 16-yr-old Natalie Wood...

TheGuardian.com wrote:This was Douglas’s public face; behind the scenes, it had been apparent for some time he could never be regarded as some sort of film-industry saint. He was notorious for his aggressive personality as his career took off, and he has been dogged by Harvey Weinstein-style allegations of sexual harassment – with persistent but unverified suggestions of a serious sexual assault on a teenage Natalie Wood in the mid-1950s. Wood’s heartbreaking history has been well attested to, including by her immediate family, but Douglas’s connection to it – unlike, say, the allegations against Roman Polanski, or indeed Weinstein – has never been tested in court. Now Douglas is beyond the scope of defamation lawsuits, and amplified by social media, it has swiftly become part of his immediate legacy.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Thu Feb 06, 2020 1:36 pm

Well, that took longer than I expected.

I'm thinking of adding a disclaimer to any post concerning a celebrity in the future. Something like

The views and opinions expressed by the author of this post are formed based on incomplete knowledge of every aspect of the subject's life. They may also just be pertaining to one act or a group of actions irregardless of any other actions taken by the subject. Hitler loved puppies.

Kraken · Post by **Kraken** » Thu Feb 06, 2020 1:46 pm

Just a few months ago we watched The Strange Love of Martha Ivers, which just happened to be Douglas' first movie (1946). He was already 30 years old and instantly recognizable.

McNutt · Post by **McNutt** » Thu Feb 06, 2020 1:53 pm

Was there any substance to the allegations about Kirk and Wood? From what I recall it was hearsay and mostly decades later. That doesn't dismiss any wrongdoing, but it's hard to say he did or didn't do anything now. At least that's what I remember.

Anonymous Bosch · Post by **Anonymous Bosch** » Thu Feb 06, 2020 2:04 pm

McNutt wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2020 1:53 pm Was there any substance to the allegations about Kirk and Wood? From what I recall it was hearsay and mostly decades later. That doesn't dismiss any wrongdoing, but it's hard to say he did or didn't do anything now. At least that's what I remember.

Legally, I don't think so. But there's certainly been plenty of grist for the rumour mill and now that he's beyond the scope of defamation lawsuits, I doubt we've heard the last of it.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Thu Feb 06, 2020 2:04 pm

All I knew about the man was his acting career and his years of trying to break the blacklist. If he committed any crimes, I wasn't aware of them.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Thu Feb 06, 2020 2:06 pm

Good luck when they call you as a witness.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Thu Feb 06, 2020 2:06 pm

Do they routinely put dead folks on trial? I mean, beyond the ones routinely found on social media?

McNutt · Post by **McNutt** » Thu Feb 06, 2020 2:23 pm

I believe there may have been a precedent with Oliver Cromwell, but for the most part we leave the dead as is.

$iljanus · Post by **$iljanus** » Thu Feb 06, 2020 2:39 pm

hepcat wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2020 12:46 pm
$iljanus wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2020 12:42 pm Along with Spartacus, one of my biggest memories of him was his performance in a movie called The Fury.

He was a good Van Gogh too.
Oh sheesh, I remember The Fury. I had a Fangoria Magazine with an article on it...and the infamous "bloody mid air spinning" scene. I didn't get up the nerve to watch it until I was in my late teens though. And by that time, it wasn't quite as shocking as I expected.

The Fury and The Manitou were B movie horror films starring classic Hollywood stars (Tony Curtis for The Manitou). There seemed to be quite a few of those in the late 70s.

I remember The Manitou too. That was quite a strange movie!

Jeff V · Post by **Jeff V** » Thu Feb 06, 2020 10:51 pm

It bothers me that Kirk Douglas doesn't warrant his own RIP thread. I'd have thought him more highly regarded.

In other ancient actor news, I watched a recent Robert Redford movie the other day. His face has more crevasses than the Grand Canyon. My daughter said, "daddy! He looks like you!"

I'd have gotten laid a lot more had that been the case 30 years ago.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Sat Feb 08, 2020 7:36 pm

Orson Bean

Veteran actor Orson Bean was struck and killed by a car Friday night in Venice, California, authorities said. He was 91.

The Los Angeles County Coroner's office confirmed Bean's Friday night death, saying it was being investigated as a "traffic-related" fatality.

Los Angeles police say a pedestrian was walking in the area of Venice Boulevard and Shell Avenue when he was clipped by one vehicle and fell.

Other bystanders tried to warn a second driver, but he also struck the pedestrian. Police say the second collision was fatal. Both drivers stayed at the scene.

Z-Corn · Post by **Z-Corn** » Sat Feb 08, 2020 7:40 pm

Damn, and it happened in front of his wife...who was the mom on The Wonder Years.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Sat Feb 08, 2020 7:49 pm

Are people simply blind? Why are you driving if you cant see or watch for stuff in the road? Or why so you drive so fast?

Read it. Wow blind. I can see maybe how it happened but still ugh.

and his wife is 23 years younger. Its a wonder he made it to 91

Also I know his face and I see he has been in stuff Ive watched but dang if I can place him.

RIP. Must be horrible for his wife. Just awful.

McNutt · Post by **McNutt** » Sat Feb 08, 2020 11:11 pm

Robert Conrad - Dead at 84

Alefroth · Post by **Alefroth** » Sat Feb 08, 2020 11:28 pm

Baa, baa, baaaa...

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Sat Feb 08, 2020 11:29 pm

Spoiler:

dbt1949 · Post by **dbt1949** » Sat Feb 08, 2020 11:52 pm

I dare you to knock this battery off my shoulder.

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Sat Feb 08, 2020 11:56 pm

Jeff V wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2020 10:51 pm It bothers me that Kirk Douglas doesn't warrant his own RIP thread. I'd have thought him more highly regarded.

In other ancient actor news, I watched a recent Robert Redford movie the other day. His face has more crevasses than the Grand Canyon. My daughter said, "daddy! He looks like you!"

I'd have gotten laid a lot more had that been the case 30 years ago.

I met Redford once up at Sundance. Really nice guy, but I was shocked at both how tiny and how wrinkled he was.

He reminded me of a raisin.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Sun Feb 09, 2020 2:44 am

Awww I loved Conrad my entire life too. Grew up on Baa Baa Black Sheep then found Wild Wild West and the rest. Yes I remember his battery commercials too

I also recall him in a tv miniseries in the early 80s called Centennial. I hated when he died with all those arrows in him. He always came across as a tough guy. Damn my Hollywood dream team is dying.

RIP

Blackhawk · Post by **Blackhawk** » Sun Feb 09, 2020 4:57 pm

I loved Baa Baa Black Sheep when I was younger.

Then I read a biography of Greg Boyington. Now I can't stomach the show.

Suitably Ironic Moniker · Sun Feb 09, 2020 7:14 pm

Ok, I’ll bite, what’s wrong with Pappy?

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Sun Feb 09, 2020 8:17 pm

Shout out RIP to Kevin Conway. Been in tons of shit and a pretty known face and voice. Ill remember him best as Kahless on Trek. 77

https://www.broadway.com/buzz/198376/ke ... ies-at-77/

McNutt · Post by **McNutt** » Sun Feb 09, 2020 9:16 pm

Suitably Ironic Moniker wrote:Ok, I’ll bite, what’s wrong with Pappy?

I believe he was a drunk who wasn't a good father/husband. Can't remember the specifics though.

LawBeefaroni · Post by **LawBeefaroni** » Thu Feb 13, 2020 10:02 am

Christie Blatchford.

Her death on Wednesday at 68 is a terrible loss to her family (especially to niece Jennifer Robinson, who nursed her throughout) and to the wider family of Blatchford’s readers across Canada.

The one positive thing in all this is that Blatchford had a chance to find out how she is loved and respected; as soon as word got out last fall that she had cancer, the whole world came calling.

Blatchford had high-profile visitors in her hospital room, of course — judges, lawyers, fellow bull terrier fan Don Cherry, Mayor John Tory and innumerable other dignitaries.

Rumpy · Post by **Rumpy** » Thu Feb 13, 2020 3:50 pm

McNutt wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2020 9:16 pm
Suitably Ironic Moniker wrote:Ok, I’ll bite, what’s wrong with Pappy?
I believe he was a drunk who wasn't a good father/husband. Can't remember the specifics though.

I read that as 'Palpy' and thought, yep that about sums it up right, and then realized my mistake. Still fits though!

AWS260 · Post by **AWS260** » Sun Feb 16, 2020 11:31 am

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Sun Feb 16, 2020 12:00 pm

Neat how they form one big picture.

Brian · Post by **Brian** » Sun Feb 16, 2020 12:03 pm

I have these three books.

They have been read so many times by my parents, myself, and others (not sure if MHS ever read from these copies but probably) that all of them have been taped back together in multiple places rendering their collectible value in dollars to almost nil but their value in memories is priceless.

Blackhawk · Post by **Blackhawk** » Sun Feb 16, 2020 12:51 pm

I also have this set. I've got at least three or four different versions of the series. And yet I never noticed until Daehawk mentioned it that they go together.

This was my first set:

Spoiler:

And this is still my favorite set:

Spoiler:

Post by **ImLawBoy** » Mon Feb 17, 2020 11:24 am

Blackhawk wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 12:51 pm I also have this set. I've got at least three or four different versions of the series. And yet I never noticed until Daehawk mentioned it that they go together.

This was my first set:

Spoiler:
And this is still my favorite set:

Spoiler:

My first reading was on the plain white Fellowship and the colorful Two Towers and Return of the King. (My Hobbit was in the same style as the bottom set.) I must have bought them one at a time or something. I currently have a nice hardcover boxed set of the trilogy that I will one day weep over when I try to give them to my kids and they spurn me as a geek.

hitbyambulance · Post by **hitbyambulance** » Mon Feb 17, 2020 3:23 pm

Blackhawk wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 12:51 pm
This was my first set:

Spoiler:

this is the set my mom has - in the gold foil box! also the matching edition of the Hobbit, separately. my brother completely bent up the spines reading them in grade school. :/ i intended to read these, but could never clear the first fifty pages of Fellowship of the Ring... tried several times, until

Blackhawk wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 12:51 pm
And this is still my favorite set:

Spoiler:

this is the set i ended up finally getting around to reading, back in 2008/2009, borrowed from my roommate at the time. they were in pretty rough shape (one was missing the backcover and the last few pages)

Jaymann · Post by **Jaymann** » Mon Feb 17, 2020 3:52 pm

Here is an excellent page showing the progression of covers. I read my parents' copy circa 1967 so it must have been the Ballantine edition.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Mon Feb 17, 2020 7:19 pm

Blackhawk wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 12:51 pm I also have this set. I've got at least three or four different versions of the series. And yet I never noticed until Daehawk mentioned it that they go together.

This was my first set:

Spoiler:
And this is still my favorite set:

Spoiler:

Is that first set The Brothers Hildebrandt?

Either way, the second set is Tolkien's own (!) drawings.