Warren Steed Jeffs, head of the nation's largest polygamist sect and one of the FBI's 10 Most Wanted fugitives, was captured in Nevada late Monday in what began as a routine traffic stop, authorities said today...
...Jeffs, who had a $100,000 reward hanging over his head, is wanted in Utah and Arizona on suspicion of sexual misconduct for allegedly arranging marriages between underage girls and older men...
...In June, FBI Director Robert Mueller said Jeffs belonged on the 10 Most Wanted list because he preys on children.
They cite an instance in which he arranges the marriage of a 16 year old girl to a married man as well as charges of fleeing from justice and being an accomplice to a rape. Oh, and for good measure they throw in a racist quote he made during some sermon and a comment by one of his former followers(?) where they say he was like Hitler.
Now, please understand, I agree that this guy is a whack job, that he's violated the law, and that he needed to be hauled in.... but to be on the FBI's 10 most wanted list? Is national crime really that slow right now or was it the combination of polygamy and underage girls that bumped him up? I'm betting these young girls aren't being kidnapped and sold off to these lascivious polygamists like some mail order bride so how does this guy become worse than countless other criminals that the FBI could be focusing its resources on?
If this guy had pimped out a dozen underage girls would he have been on the big 10 list or is it just because he arranged their marriages that made it so bad? I'm starting to think the US reallly doesn't like anything that sullies that sanctity of marriage.
personally, i'm all for throwing the book at the guy. forcing girls in their early teens to marry men in their 60's, allowing them to be beaten within an inch of their lives if they try to escape this horrible existence, creating "pre-marriages" which allows old coots to have sex with teenage girls in order to "prepare them for marriage placement"...
they're the american version of the taliban. i say we can't get rid of 'em fast enough (and no, i'm not advocating killing them. i just want them disbanded and forbidden from continuing this misogynistic lifetstyle).
If this guy had pimped out a dozen underage girls would he have been on the big 10 list or is it just because he arranged their marriages that made it so bad? I'm starting to think the US reallly doesn't like anything that sullies that sanctity of marriage.
I suggest a read of Under The Banner Of Heaven for a good read about how these polygamists operate, the damage the cause & just how bad they are. It's nothing to do with the sanctity of marriage.
" Hey OP, listen to my advice alright." -Tha General "No scientific discovery is named after its original discoverer." -Stigler's Law of Eponymy, discovered by Robert K. Merton MYT
LawBeefaroni wrote:And yes, polygamy, under the guise of a twisted form of a more mainstream relgion, used as a tool to sell children into sex-slavery, is that bad.
Well when you put it that way... forget everything I said.
One might speculate that for the FBI, interviewing 16-year-old girls about their sex lives beats hands-down the months they spent digging up landfills unsuccessfully searching for evidence against Lee Wen-Ho.
Kehama wrote:I'm betting these young girls aren't being kidnapped and sold off to these lascivious polygamists like some mail order bride so how does this guy become worse than countless other criminals that the FBI could be focusing its resources on?
Actually, that wouldn't be far from it. He's ordered marriages dissolved and then ordered the women to be married to other men, all just because he said so. And kidnapped or not, does a 13 year old girl in that community really have a choice when Jeffers says she is to marry Mr. X?
The guy was dangerous because of his cult like control of his group. They basically dominated a series of small towns in the Four Corners area of CO, UT, NM, and AZ. The state has taken the towns over because local authorities - mayors, school officials, sheriffs were all cult members. You worry about someone with that type of control over people because you don't know what they might do.
Grifman wrote:Actually, that wouldn't be far from it. He's ordered marriages dissolved and then ordered the women to be married to other men, all just because he said so.
So this is essentially a child prostitution ring that throws marriage into the mix so that these nutjobs feel like their pedophilia is "ok" since it take place within the bounds of matrimony? With the whole dissolving marriages and then marrying the girls back off thing, it almost sounds like a prostitute leasing program. Instead of paying for a few hours with some girl they marry them for a few months and then get a new one. Gees.
Grifman wrote:Actually, that wouldn't be far from it. He's ordered marriages dissolved and then ordered the women to be married to other men, all just because he said so.
So this is essentially a child prostitution ring that throws marriage into the mix so that these nutjobs feel like their pedophilia is "ok" since it take place within the bounds of matrimony? With the whole dissolving marriages and then marrying the girls back off thing, it almost sounds like a prostitute leasing program. Instead of paying for a few hours with some girl they marry them for a few months and then get a new one. Gees.
His cult was in the mix as well. I think some requirement was forfieture of assets to the church. So if you're a pedophile, you sell your house, move to his compound or controlled town, give him all your money, and get on with marrying little girls. You probably get some leadership status in the church and a place to live with everyone else (some of whom might have been in it for the religion).
That might be a simplified version but you get the general idea. Pay for play.
" Hey OP, listen to my advice alright." -Tha General "No scientific discovery is named after its original discoverer." -Stigler's Law of Eponymy, discovered by Robert K. Merton MYT
Several top leaders from Warren Jeffs' polygamous sect were arrested Tuesday on federal accusations of food stamp fraud and money laundering — marking one of the biggest blows to the group in years.
Prosecutors say the sect based on the Utah-Arizona border diverted funds from Utah's nutrition assistance program for inappropriate use by its leaders.
A total of 11 people were charged in the scheme, including Lyle Jeffs and Seth Jeffs, top-ranking leaders of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints and brothers of imprisoned sect leader Warren Jeffs.
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The raids were the federal government's latest front in targeting church leaders. A civil rights trial against the twin polygamous towns of Hildale and Colorado City, Arizona, is underway in Phoenix, in which prosecutors say they discriminated against nonbelievers by denying them housing, water services and police protection.
Sharia Law!!! (well, ok, it's just a sect of the Mormons, but it may as well be):
Two polygamous towns on the Utah-Arizona border violated the constitutional rights of nonbelievers by denying them basic services such as police protection, building permits and water hookups, a jury said Monday.
The civil rights trial marks one of boldest efforts by the government to confront what critics have long said was a corrupt regime in Colorado City, Arizona, and Hildale, Utah. The towns were accused of doing the bidding of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, a radical offshoot of mainstream Mormonism, which disavowed polygamy more than 100 years ago...
...During the civil rights case, the Justice Department said town employees assisted the group's leader when he was a fugitive and took orders from church leaders during closed-door meetings about whom to appoint to government jobs.
They say local police ignored the food stamp fraud scheme and marriages between adult male church members and underage brides...
...Federal attorneys describe the local police force and church's security operation as paranoid entities that worked to violate the rights of nonbelievers. Witnesses for the government said church security spied on people with cameras placed around the towns and positioned themselves to keep an eye on who was arriving.
The former head of church security described elaborate cloak-and-dagger efforts taken to avoid scrutiny from outside law enforcement, such as using "burner" cellphones, encrypted radios and driving 40 miles to make phone calls out of fear that a local cell tower was being monitored by investigators.
It sounds like something out of a Jack Reacher novel... or the children of the corn.
PS yes, Jeff's towns too (his sect is based in one).
Black Lives definitely Matter Lorini!
Also: There are three ways to not tell the truth: lies, damned lies, and statistics.
Federal authorities hope a $50,000 reward announced Monday, coupled with a falling out between polygamist fugitive Lyle Jeffs and his brother — imprisoned sect leader Warren Jeffs — will lead someone to reveal his whereabouts.
Lyle Jeffs has been on the lam after slipping out of his GPS ankle monitor and escaping home confinement in Salt Lake City in June while awaiting trial on food stamp fraud charges.
He was in touch with his brother while on the run and was sent away to repent in July after refusing to follow an order, Eric Barnhart, the FBI's special agent in charge in Salt Lake City, said at a news conference.
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U.S. District Judge Ted Stewart granted Lyle Jeffs supervised release on June 9. He fled less than two weeks later.
Stewart made the decision over objections from prosecutors who said Jeffs would be able to use safe houses around the country and large amounts of cash to avoid capture.
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Lyle Jeffs is considered armed and dangerous, but the FBI has no plans to add him to the most wanted list, Barnhart said.
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but to be on the FBI's 10 most wanted list? Is national crime really that slow right now or was it the combination of polygamy and underage girls that bumped him up?
What better way for ICE to justify it's existence? I don't think anyone really bought the 10,000 underage prostitutes at the Super Bowl thing, although the press was happy to flaunt the story http://www.snopes.com/sports/football/escort.asp
Federal authorities hope a $50,000 reward announced Monday, coupled with a falling out between polygamist fugitive Lyle Jeffs and his brother — imprisoned sect leader Warren Jeffs — will lead someone to reveal his whereabouts.
Bishop Lyle Jeffs, leader of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, had been living out of his car for two weeks before his arrest in Yankton, South Dakota, an FBI official said Thursday.
Jeffs, who had been on the run from authorities for almost a year, did not resist arrest late Wednesday and is being held in Minnehaha County Jail in South Dakota. He was scheduled to appear in court Thursday afternoon.
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The FBI received a tip from a citizen Tuesday, which included a partial description of Jeff's vehicle. The tip was instrumental to tracking down Jeffs, said Eric Barnhart, special agent in charge of the FBI's Salt Lake City, Utah, bureau.
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Jeffs, younger brother of notorious FLDS leader Warren Jeffs, escaped house arrest last July after using olive oil to slip a GPS tracking bracelet off his ankle. At the time of his escape, the FBI warned the public that Lyle Jeffs was traveling with bodyguards and was considered dangerous.
