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Back when, Syria was one of our favorite destinations for extraordinary rendition because Assad's torturers were considered among the best. But I suppose now we can just ship suspects straight to the Lubyanka.
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British terror suspect who received a seven-figure payoff after being released from Guantanamo Bay died when he detonated explosives during a suicide bombing in Iraq, according to reports on Tuesday.

The Islamic State claimed responsibility for the attack and praised Abu-Zakariya al-Britani, a British suicide bomber, for exploding a vehicle full of explosives near Mosul, where Iraqi forces are battling IS fighters for control of the city.

A report on BBC.com identified al-Britani as Ronald Fiddler, a Brit who was seized by US forces in Afghanistan and taken to Guantanamo Bay in 2002.
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The Manchester-born terrorist, 50, had been gifted a seven-figure taxpayers' sum after being released from the infamous US detention centre in 2004.

It followed a high profile campaign by the then Labour Home Secretary David Blunkett for him to be let out — just two years after he was captured by US troops in Afghanistan.

Mr Blunkett said at the time: "No one who is returned… will actually be a threat to the security of the British people.”
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But after his release he fled the UK to fight in Syria as militants swept across the region in 2014.
Or were you trying to imply that the US paid him?
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Isgrimnur wrote:
The Manchester-born terrorist, 50, had been gifted a seven-figure taxpayers' sum after being released from the infamous US detention centre in 2004.

It followed a high profile campaign by the then Labour Home Secretary David Blunkett for him to be let out — just two years after he was captured by US troops in Afghanistan.

Mr Blunkett said at the time: "No one who is returned… will actually be a threat to the security of the British people.”
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But after his release he fled the UK to fight in Syria as militants swept across the region in 2014.
Or were you trying to imply that the US paid him?
Interestingly, given his background, it could be argued that his trip to Gitmo may have served to radicalize him. :think:
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Max Peck wrote:
Isgrimnur wrote:
The Manchester-born terrorist, 50, had been gifted a seven-figure taxpayers' sum after being released from the infamous US detention centre in 2004.

It followed a high profile campaign by the then Labour Home Secretary David Blunkett for him to be let out — just two years after he was captured by US troops in Afghanistan.

Mr Blunkett said at the time: "No one who is returned… will actually be a threat to the security of the British people.”
...
But after his release he fled the UK to fight in Syria as militants swept across the region in 2014.
Or were you trying to imply that the US paid him?
Interestingly, given his background, it could be argued that his trip to Gitmo may have served to radicalize him. :think:
But Sean Hannity tells us waterboarding isn't torture. Dude would be totally fine if he wasn't such a cuck. :hawk:

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Anyone who claims waterboarding is not torture should be forced to experience it first hand. See how they feel about it after being subject to it for a month or so.
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Remus West wrote:Anyone who claims waterboarding is not torture should be forced to experience it first hand. See how they feel about it after being subject to it for 30 seconds or so.
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Former Guantanamo detainee killed in US air strike in Yemen
A former inmate of Guantanamo Bay has been killed by a US air strike in Yemen targeting al-Qaeda, the Pentagon said.

"We can confirm the death of a former Guantanamo Bay detainee, Yasir al-Silmi," Navy Captain Jeff Davis said.

Yasir al-Silmi had been held in the controversial detention centre in Cuba between 2002 and 2009.

He was killed in a strike on 2 March, the Pentagon said, in one of the dozens of air strikes on Yemen in the past week.

The former Guantanamo prisoner - also known as Mohammed Tahar - was a Yemeni national whom the US Department of Defence as recently as 2008 recommended be kept in detention.

"It is assessed detainee will engage in extremist activities upon release. He has threatened [Guantanamo] personnel and continues to support jihad," a leaked Department of Defence memo at the time said.

He was killed in the same strike as Usayd al-Adani, "a long-time Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula explosives expert and facilitator who served as the organisation's emir," Cpt Davis said.
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Didn't find a good thread for this in the short time I have but this is a really interesting piece about the extraordinary lengths that the Trump administration is pursuing to deny a citizen basic legal rights. I don't care if they found pictures of you making dinner for Mullah Omar and OBL back in 2001 - you get a lawyer. What is the real argument against that?
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Technically, he shouldn't be here.
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em2nought wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2018 9:17 am Gitmo II home edition? :mrgreen: https://twitter.com/hashtag/massarrests
This is beyond Alex Jones level crazy, if anyone's wondering.

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In Civilian Court, Terrorist Sentenced After 17 Months; At Guantanamo Tribunal, Still No Trials After 17 Years
Tuesday saw two major developments in America's efforts to prosecute accused terrorists. Between them, they undermine an argument about the alleged need to try terror suspects in military courts.

The first development was the sentencing of Ahmad Khan Rahimi, the so called "Chelsea Bomber," who detonated three homemade bombs in New York and New Jersey in September 2016. A judge in the Federal District Court in Manhattan sentenced Rahimi to two life terms yesterday, just 17 months after Rahimi's arrest. It's hardly the first time our civilian courts have taken care of a terror case with such efficiency. "Shoe bomber" Richard Reid was sentenced in January 2003, just over two years after he was arrested. Sayfullo Habibullaevich Saipov, the ISIS-inspired Uzbek who allegedly drove a truck through a crowd of pedestrians in downtown Manhattan last Halloween, was in federal court within 24 hours, and he has already offered to plead guilty on the weight of the evidence against him. A jury found Ahmed Abu Khatallah, a Libyan national involved in planning the 2012 attacks on the U.S. embassy in Benghazi, guilty of terrorism charges last November.

These cases have at times required some deviations from standard federal criminal procedures, largely to protect U.S. foreign intelligence sources. But they have been conducted largely in the same manner as the many other criminal prosecutions heard in federal courts every year, and they aren't taking dramatically longer to resolve than other criminal cases.

Yesterday's second development, however, is rather less impressive.

The military commission at Guantanamo Bay is currently attempting to try Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri for the 2000 bombing of the USS Cole. Yesterday an Air Force judge, Col. Vance Spath, ordered U.S. marshals to arrest two civilian attorneys who had resigned in protest from the team of lawyers attempting to represent Nashiri. More than 17 years after the Cole bombing, a trial date has still not been set.
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