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Post by Kraken » Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:59 pm

That's prudent for the time being, but federal legalization is inevitable here, too. They just de-scheduled hemp. Baby steps. I am 80% sure that legalization will be part of the Democratic platform in '20...there's no surer way to get young people to the polls.

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Post by Moliere » Sun Mar 03, 2019 5:05 pm


Ioan Grillo is journalist who has spent the last 18 years reporting on the drug war in Mexico. His books "El Narco: Inside Mexico's Criminal Insurgency" and "Gangster Warlords" are available now.
A depressing interview where a British journalist discusses his time reporting on the drug cartels in Mexico. 'Merica! :cry:

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Post by Jaymann » Sun Mar 03, 2019 8:56 pm

I got through about 20 minutes of Alex Jones. I wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt, but found a big stinking pile of nope. No interest in DLR or Phil (I don't think he's a doctor of anything).
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Post by Moliere » Mon Mar 04, 2019 9:02 pm

Jaymann wrote:
Sun Mar 03, 2019 8:56 pm
I got through about 20 minutes of Alex Jones. I wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt, but found a big stinking pile of nope. No interest in DLR or Phil (I don't think he's a doctor of anything).
I listen to these at 1.5 speed in the background while gaming so it's easier to get through long podcasts. The Alex Jones interview was frustrating because Rogan gave up trying to hold Jones accountable to rattling off 10 things in rapid fire before jumping to another 10 topics. Russell Brand talks the same way thinking fast = intelligent. With Jones it would require someone to tell him to shut up as we dissect these 10 "facts" he just said.

That being said, the Ioan Grillo interview is a must listen for anyone interested in the Mexican drug cartels.
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Post by Isgrimnur » Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:28 pm

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Hawaii on Tuesday decriminalized marijuana, making it the 26th state to decriminalize or legalize the drug.

The new law removes the possibility of jail time as a penalty for up to three grams of marijuana, but maintains a $130 fine. Hawaii’s Democrat-controlled legislature approved the bill and sent it to Democratic Gov. David Ige in May. Ige didn’t sign it, but he also didn’t veto it, effectively letting it become law on Tuesday. The new law will take effect on January 11, 2020.
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Post by Isgrimnur » Mon Jul 29, 2019 5:52 pm

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Gov. Andrew Cuomo signed legislation Monday decriminalizing marijuana use in the state of New York.

The law reduces unlawful possession of marijuana to a violation punishable by a fine.

Additionally, it also creates a process for individuals convicted of certain marijuana offenses to have their records expunged.
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The bill will take effect 30 days after becoming law.

Lawmakers in New York state voted last month to eliminate criminal penalties for public possession and use of marijuana after efforts to legalize pot stalled.

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Post by Kraken » Mon Jul 29, 2019 6:52 pm

I made my first legal purchase a couple of weeks ago, in the Berkshires. There are still no pot shops convenient to me, but there are five along the Rte 7 spine in Berkshire County, so it was just a matter of deciding which one's menu looked the best while I was out there anyway for a long weekend. I mention this because the Berkshires abut the NY state line, and I saw a LOT of NY license plates in the parking lot.

Due to high prices and poor access in the most populous part of the state, the weed industry in MA isn't delivering the taxes they were expecting -- it's still easier and cheaper to buy black market (or grow one's own). On the plus side, the shops that are open are doing brisk business and a lot of the tax dollars they are pulling in are from out of state.

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Post by Biyobi » Mon Jul 29, 2019 8:11 pm

What were their rates? Dispensaries here are typically $30-$60 for an eighth, though one of the better ones near me has half-priced Tuesdays.

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Post by Kraken » Mon Jul 29, 2019 8:31 pm

Biyobi wrote:
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What were their rates? Dispensaries here are typically $30-$60 for an eighth, though one of the better ones near me has half-priced Tuesdays.
1/8 = $45
1/4 = $85
1/2 = $165
1 oz = $300

...plus 20% tax. If you have a medical card, skip the tax and go to the front of the line.

There is no price competition here...yet.

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Post by Pyperkub » Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:31 pm

So where does that put Mike Tyson?
"What do we smoke a month?" Tyson asked his co-host, Eben Britton. He added, per The Source, "It's about $40,000 a month."

"We smoke ten tons of weed on the ranch a month," Britton said.
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Post by Daehawk » Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:58 pm

Im not sure how those prices compare to the mid 80s as a teenager getting pot. I 'think' back then a quarter bag was $25 and a half bag was $50. been so damn long. A joint is less than a gram if I recall and joints were like $5. $7 if laced with Valium.

I still remember staying at one of my friends house on a Friday night in high school because we were going on a church bus trip to Atlanta Six Flags Sat morn. His dad came home from work around 4pm and tossed us a half bag and said dont smoke it all tonight. Man what a fun weekend that was. Sat on the roof because his attic window led out there and smoked until midnight. Napped then got up at 5am. By the time we were on the bus the buzz was fading. But after a ride or two at Six Flags it all rushed back for a bit.
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Post by Z-Corn » Wed Aug 14, 2019 7:34 pm

Daehawk wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:58 pm
A joint is less than a gram if I recall and joints were like $5. $7 if laced with Valium.
Alright, I gave it a day and nobody else stepped in.

Bullshit, you can't smoke Valium.

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Powdered up and sprinkled in it.
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Post by Jaymann » Wed Aug 14, 2019 8:53 pm

It is possible, but:
What are the Dangers of Inhaling Valium?
Smoking the drug probably won’t even produce the Valium ‘high’ effect and definitely won’t make the drug work better. The high temperatures the pill is exposed to can destroy some of the chemicals inside it, including the main active ingredient.
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Post by Z-Corn » Wed Aug 14, 2019 9:59 pm

Daehawk wrote:
Wed Aug 14, 2019 8:44 pm
Powdered up and sprinkled in it.
So did you personally find it worth $2 extra per jib?

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Post by Kraken » Wed Aug 14, 2019 10:29 pm

Z-Corn wrote:
Wed Aug 14, 2019 7:34 pm
Daehawk wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:58 pm
A joint is less than a gram if I recall and joints were like $5. $7 if laced with Valium.
Alright, I gave it a day and nobody else stepped in.

Bullshit, you can't smoke Valium.
I wondered about that.

When I was a kid I unknowingly bought some weed that was laced with PCP. That was a scary bad trip, especially since we weren't expecting it and didn't know why we were hallucinating.

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Post by Alefroth » Thu Aug 15, 2019 12:25 am

Z-Corn wrote:
Wed Aug 14, 2019 7:34 pm
Daehawk wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:58 pm
A joint is less than a gram if I recall and joints were like $5. $7 if laced with Valium.
Alright, I gave it a day and nobody else stepped in.

Bullshit, you can't smoke Valium.
But you can put chalk in it and say it's Valium.

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Post by LordMortis » Thu Aug 15, 2019 8:15 am

I can assume I had a joint laced with PCP once very young. If fucked me up bad. I assume this because later I smoked another joint laced with PCP, admitted to me after smoking and it was just as bad. I also smoke a white capped joint once.

All three people who did that without saying shit before hand can fuck right off.

Kids, make sure your friends are really your friends and not just asshole associates who would think that sort of thing is funny. I will say by the third time, I pretty much quit recreational street drugs deciding I'm too paranoid, even when there aren't mystery additives, and learned to favor the abuse of alcohol instead. I miss drinking. Stupid heart.

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Post by Isgrimnur » Mon Aug 19, 2019 11:21 am

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Officials say they seized $2.3 million worth of marijuana mixed in with a shipment of jalapeño peppers at a Southern California port.

A Customs and Border Protection K-9 unit alerted officers to a shipment of peppers Thursday at the Otay Mesa cargo facility in San Diego.

A CBP news release says officers discovered more than 7,500 pounds of marijuana in the peppers’ pallets.

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Post by Jaymann » Mon Aug 19, 2019 11:41 am

Jeff V. found a use for all those peppers.
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Post by Kraken » Sat Aug 31, 2019 11:14 pm

I'm a caregiver! :D

Wife got her medical card, which quadruples the number of dispensaries she can access, allows for delivery, makes her eligible for discounts, and lets her skip the lines and the taxes. It cost $250, plus substantial time and a plausible medical need, to pull that off. She is in it strictly for the CBD (which legitimately controls her chronic back pain). Admittedly, one can buy CBD anywhere, but only the licensed dispensaries can sell edibles and have to meet purity and dosage standards, so their product is superior to whatever you can buy at CVS.

As her designated caregiver, I get all those perks, too -- and, of course, I'm not restricted to CBD. I can possess "a 60-day supply" of up to 10 oz. (!) and possibly grow more than the 12-plant limit, but the law regarding cultivation predates recreational legalization and doesn't make much sense. Here's what being a caregiver means:
Duties of Personal Caregiver

105 CMR 725.025

A personal caregiver may:

(1) Transport a registered qualifying patient to and from a RMD;

(2) Obtain and transport marijuana from a RMD on behalf of a registered qualifying patient;

(3) Cultivate marijuana on behalf of a registered qualifying patient who has obtained a hardship cultivation registration;

(4) Prepare marijuana for consumption by a registered qualifying patient; and

(5) Administer marijuana to a registered qualifying patient.

An employee of a hospice provider, nursing facility, or medical facility serving as a personal caregiver for a registered qualifying patient admitted to or residing at that facility, or a visiting nurse, home health aide, or personal care attendant, may not cultivate marijuana for that patient.

Upon the death of a personal caregiver’s registered qualifying patient, the personal caregiver must notify the Department within five calendar days.

Restrictions on Personal Caregivers

105 CMR 725.025 (B)

A personal caregiver may not:

(1) Consume, by any means, marijuana that has been dispensed to or cultivated on behalf of a registered qualifying patient;

(2) Sell, provide, or otherwise divert marijuana that has been dispensed to or cultivated on behalf of a registered qualifying patient;

(3) Cultivate marijuana for the personal caregiver’s own use, unless the personal caregiver is also a registered qualifying patient who has obtained a hardship cultivation registration;

4) Cultivate marijuana for purposes of selling or providing marijuana to anyone other than the registered qualifying patient; or

5) Allow a registered qualifying patient who is under 18 years of age to possess marijuana at any time when not in the presence of the personal caregiver.
We're making our first visit to a medical dispensary on Monday, so I'll get updated info from them. This particular dispensary gives new medical patients a $200 credit -- meaning the money we paid for the card will get turned into "free" product.

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Post by Kraken » Mon Sep 02, 2019 11:52 pm

Today we went to NETA, the only recreational dispensary in the greater Boston area. There were hundreds of people in line. The wait for walk-ins was estimated at 3 hours. And this place is huge (serves 1,500 customers a day).

Wife showed her medical access card and we were ushered in a side door. There was no one in the queue so we sashayed right up to the counter. They have a deal where they refund (in credits) the cost of one's medical card; we decided to spend $200 today and get $100 off. As an unadvertised holiday special, all edibles were 20% off; Wife only buys edibles. Score!

They have a limit of 1/8th of flower in place due to the demand, and they only had one sativa on their menu at an unimpressive 12.5% THC, but I figured I'd pick some up since I was there anyway. When I asked, our budtender said they have some off-menu strains for medical patients and let me eyeball a tray of buds at a more impressive 25% (she tried to warn me off that, but I assured her that I'm expert level). When I said "gee, too bad I can only get an eighth" she said "oh, our daily limit for medical patients is 2 oz!"

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I already had some weed and my checking account is tapped out at the moment, so I just got the eighth. Our tab before discounts was $240. Out the door? $105. No tax on medicine, of course. For now, Wife is the rockstar, but when I get my caregiver card I can get those same terms. I was so happy I almost teared up.

Their weed is very good. The strain that I bought at Berkshire Roots has a nicer flavor and delivers a brighter buzz, so I'll wait until I'm out there again to stock up. I look forward to finding out what their medical bennies are like. Wife is happy with her CBD, too. They have very good dark chocolate. Wish I could mail some of that to Daehawk to see if it would take his pain away for awhile. Wife is downright evangelical about CBD's magical pain relief.

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Post by morlac » Tue Sep 03, 2019 8:15 am

Small steps but Cobb county, GA were I reside has basically decriminalized it for misdemeanor possession. No arrest, no tickets, no fines etc. They just wave the naughty finger at you and supposedly take it and destroy it. I believe that makes the third county in the Metro Atlanta area including the city of that has done this. Surprising since the State of Georgia back tracked on the some of the medical use last year.

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