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America, a country in decay?

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Re: America, a country in decay?

Post by Drazzil » Tue Nov 27, 2018 9:50 am

malchior wrote:
Tue Nov 27, 2018 8:14 am
Drazzil wrote:
Mon Nov 26, 2018 6:47 pm
As for the next world power? Maybe India, perhaps Brazil.
Lol. Try going to India some time. You'll see that the idea is hilarious. Neither will be. They might have huge populations and even rich, highly educated segments but they each have deep dysfunctions that go far beyond what is acceptable in the west.
Which is why I said *maybe*.
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Re: America, a country in decay?

Post by malchior » Tue Nov 27, 2018 1:04 pm

Drazzil wrote:
Tue Nov 27, 2018 9:50 am
malchior wrote:
Tue Nov 27, 2018 8:14 am
Drazzil wrote:
Mon Nov 26, 2018 6:47 pm
As for the next world power? Maybe India, perhaps Brazil.
Lol. Try going to India some time. You'll see that the idea is hilarious. Neither will be. They might have huge populations and even rich, highly educated segments but they each have deep dysfunctions that go far beyond what is acceptable in the west.
Which is why I said *maybe*.
Sure and maybe it'll be Bermuda. Anything is possible!

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Re: America, a country in decay?

Post by GreenGoo » Tue Nov 27, 2018 2:10 pm

My vote is Haiti. They've had a dry spell, but that only means they're due any day now!
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Re: America, a country in decay?

Post by Z-Corn » Tue Nov 27, 2018 3:07 pm

I, for one, welcome our new Haitian Overlords!

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Re: America, a country in decay?

Post by Carpet_pissr » Tue Nov 27, 2018 10:56 pm

Brazil is in absolute turmoil currently. Politically, socially and economically. Probably in the worst state since soon after their dictatorship ended.

They just elected “Trump of the Tropics”, so their trajectory is continuing downward (fell off the cliff on that one), not rising.

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Re: America, a country in decay?

Post by Holman » Wed Nov 28, 2018 7:36 pm

GreenGoo wrote:
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Meh. Chinese languages are kind of outrageously difficult, at least in written form. I'll be dead before it matters, I hope. Good luck, my kids.
Your kids needn't worry. The relevant Corporate Loyalty Handbooks will be available in computer-translated Mandarin-to-Canadian.
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Re: America, a country in decay?

Post by Isgrimnur » Wed Nov 28, 2018 8:21 pm

I look forward to the hijinks that occur when they improperly inflect, ‘eh’.
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Re: America, a country in decay?

Post by Kraken » Sat Dec 29, 2018 1:17 am

Slate asked 16 historians to predict how 2018 will be remembered. They agree that it was a momentous year, but diverge on where the momentum was going. Most are not encouraged.

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Re: America, a country in decay?

Post by hitbyambulance » Sat Dec 29, 2018 4:32 am

posted this in the 'economy' thread, but it fits here as well:

https://www.propublica.org/article/olde ... retirement

"A new data analysis by ProPublica and the Urban Institute shows more than half of older U.S. workers are pushed out of longtime jobs before they choose to retire, suffering financial damage that is often irreversible."

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Re: America, a country in decay?

Post by Kraken » Sat Dec 29, 2018 12:54 pm

At least half of my friends and relatives over 55 are involuntarily retired. Many of them, still too young to draw SS, are cannibalizing their retirement money and working odd jobs where they can get them or trying to self-employ. I had thought that my cohort was unusual because so many of us were journalists, but I see that we're right on trend.

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Re: America, a country in decay?

Post by em2nought » Sat Dec 29, 2018 3:47 pm

It's a long shot that Trump can save the USA. Of course it was also a long shot that we would become your President. :wink: China will be the new Roman Empire of the 21st century.
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Re: America, a country in decay?

Post by Drazzil » Sat Dec 29, 2018 6:48 pm

Will America go away like the British Empire?

Or will it collapse like the Soviet Union?

I believe this critical question will be answered in the next decade.

It will be answered by the politicans who represent us (or pretend to) but mostly it will be answered by it's people. American's really need to decide if they want to participate in their government and reap the benefits or be distracted into oblivion.
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Re: America, a country in decay?

Post by Kraken » Sat Dec 29, 2018 7:21 pm

Funny you'd chose the word "distracted." This is one of the historians from the article I linked a few posts up:
The year of distraction
Joseph J. Ellis is the author of American Dialogue: The Founders and Us.

It is difficult to believe, but exactly a century ago, in 2018, the American media was obsessed with the fractured and frivolous presidency of Donald Trump.

Unmentioned, what they might have called “unbreaking news,” were the following movements in the historical templates fated to shape our own world: the ascendance of the Asian Empire, then called China; the crisis of confidence in all three branches of the federal government, which led to the calling of the Second Constitutional Convention and our current American Confederation; the accelerating erosion of the Greenland glacier, which eventually forced the evacuation of our coastal cities.

For all these reasons, 2018 has come to be called “The Year of Distraction.”

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Re: America, a country in decay?

Post by Drazzil » Sat Dec 29, 2018 7:27 pm

Kraken wrote:
Sat Dec 29, 2018 7:21 pm
Funny you'd chose the word "distracted." This is one of the historians from the article I linked a few posts up:
The year of distraction
Joseph J. Ellis is the author of American Dialogue: The Founders and Us.

It is difficult to believe, but exactly a century ago, in 2018, the American media was obsessed with the fractured and frivolous presidency of Donald Trump.

Unmentioned, what they might have called “unbreaking news,” were the following movements in the historical templates fated to shape our own world: the ascendance of the Asian Empire, then called China; the crisis of confidence in all three branches of the federal government, which led to the calling of the Second Constitutional Convention and our current American Confederation; the accelerating erosion of the Greenland glacier, which eventually forced the evacuation of our coastal cities.

For all these reasons, 2018 has come to be called “The Year of Distraction.”
Ayup. You caught me. I read tons of what you post. Also predicted is another great depression in a different article
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Re: America, a country in decay?

Post by Drazzil » Sat Dec 29, 2018 8:16 pm

We need to get over our countries love of trickle down economics.
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