Re: FCC and Net Neutrality
Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 3:22 pm
That is not dead which can eternal lie, and with strange aeons bring us some web forums whereupon we can gather
http://www.octopusoverlords.com/forum/
Finally.The California State Senate yesterday approved a bill to impose net neutrality restrictions on Internet service providers, challenging the Federal Communications Commission attempt to preempt such rules...
...The bill passed 21-12, with all 21 ayes coming from Democrats. The bill is now being moved to the State Assembly, where Democrats have a 53-25 majority over Republicans.
The bill would prohibit home and mobile Internet providers from "Blocking lawful content, applications, services, or non-harmful devices," except in cases of reasonable network management.
Throttling would also be outlawed, along with "paid prioritization, or providing preferential treatment of some Internet traffic to any Internet customer." More generally, the bill prohibits ISPs from interfering with "a customer's ability to select, access, and use broadband Internet access service or lawful Internet content, applications, services, or devices of the customer's choice, or an edge provider's ability to make lawful content, applications, services, or devices available to a customer."
Well how much bandwidth does one really need to stream Breitbart, Fox News, cat videos and Facebook?Jaymann wrote:Meanwhile the red states will be throtteled to a piss stream.
Not sure now that Nicole Eggert has accused him of a inappropriate relationship during Charles in Charge when she was under age.
Federal Communications Commission (FCC) Chairman Ajit Pai received the National Rifle Association's (NRA) “Charlton Heston Courage Under Fire Award” at the Conservative Political Action Conference on Friday.
The NRA-sponsored award was given to Pai in recognition of months of heavy criticism over his successful push to repeal the agency’s net neutrality rules. Pai led the push to repeal the rules, which were overwhelmingly supported by the public, in December.
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Pai’s award is a handmade Kentucky long gun, which will be housed in the NRA’s museum in Fairfax, Va.
Previous winners have included Vice President Pence and former Milwaukee County Sheriff David Clarke.
from the article:Isgrimnur wrote: ↑Fri Feb 23, 2018 4:08 pm The Hill
Federal Communications Commission (FCC) Chairman Ajit Pai received the National Rifle Association's (NRA) “Charlton Heston Courage Under Fire Award” at the Conservative Political Action Conference on Friday.
The NRA-sponsored award was given to Pai in recognition of months of heavy criticism over his successful push to repeal the agency’s net neutrality rules. Pai led the push to repeal the rules, which were overwhelmingly supported by the public, in December.
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Pai’s award is a handmade Kentucky long gun, which will be housed in the NRA’s museum in Fairfax, Va.
Previous winners have included Vice President Pence and former Milwaukee County Sheriff David Clarke.
from the comments:"Ajit Pai is the most courageous, heroic person that I know,” said Dan Schneider, the executive director of the American Conservative Union, while introducing the FCC chairman.
I nominate Pai to be the first that is parachuted in to North Korea on a super secret mission to disarm the North. After all, the NRA must surely know the bravest of the brave.
Trump should nominate Pai as a armed school resource officer .
I really thought they'd have the self-control to wait ... some period of time. Any period of time. This is pretty much proof that they know they can get away with almost anything.tjg_marantz wrote: ↑Sat Feb 24, 2018 11:45 pm https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/2 ... fast-lanes
This isn't actually new. It's zero rating and it's been around for years. Even the last chairman said it was okay and it wasn't set to change the old rules.malchior wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2018 8:30 amI really thought they'd have the self-control to wait ... some period of time. Any period of time. This is pretty much proof that they know they can get away with almost anything.tjg_marantz wrote: ↑Sat Feb 24, 2018 11:45 pm https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/2 ... fast-lanes
This is a change. A subtle one - zero rating only AT&T businesses was skirting the edge but opening it up to others means that it is likely that they will eventually have to throttle other traffic. It is a finite resource. They are just leading with the 'benefit' to the consumer. The long term strategy is probably that it'll be a cause for them to restrict and control data usage to drive up the price later.stessier wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2018 9:33 amThis isn't actually new. It's zero rating and it's been around for years. Even the last chairman said it was okay and it wasn't set to change the old rules.malchior wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2018 8:30 amI really thought they'd have the self-control to wait ... some period of time. Any period of time. This is pretty much proof that they know they can get away with almost anything.tjg_marantz wrote: ↑Sat Feb 24, 2018 11:45 pm https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/2 ... fast-lanes
That's not new. Here's an article from 2016 talking about AT&T doing the same thing (ie, letting third parties pay to zero rate their data). And while the article says the practice was under investigation, the eventual decision was that it was fine.malchior wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2018 9:39 amThis is a change. A subtle one - zero rating only AT&T businesses was skirting the edge but opening it up to others means that it is likely that they will eventually have to throttle other traffic. It is a finite resource. They are just leading with the 'benefit' to the consumer. The long term strategy is probably that it'll be a cause for them to restrict and control data usage to drive up the price later.stessier wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2018 9:33 amThis isn't actually new. It's zero rating and it's been around for years. Even the last chairman said it was okay and it wasn't set to change the old rules.malchior wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2018 8:30 amI really thought they'd have the self-control to wait ... some period of time. Any period of time. This is pretty much proof that they know they can get away with almost anything.tjg_marantz wrote: ↑Sat Feb 24, 2018 11:45 pm https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/2 ... fast-lanes
Is that completely accurate? I looked up zero rating, and from this article it looks like it was Ajit Pai that made zero rating ok.stessier wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2018 9:33 amThis isn't actually new. It's zero rating and it's been around for years. Even the last chairman said it was okay and it wasn't set to change the old rules.malchior wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2018 8:30 amI really thought they'd have the self-control to wait ... some period of time. Any period of time. This is pretty much proof that they know they can get away with almost anything.tjg_marantz wrote: ↑Sat Feb 24, 2018 11:45 pm https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/2 ... fast-lanes
So yes, zero rating is something that's been around for awhile and the old chairman did not explicitly say it was wrong. But the plan that AT&T is expanding was deemed anticompetitive until Ajit Pai came in and said "no, you're good".The FCC didn't explicitly ban these types of practices in its sweeping net neutrality rules passed in 2015. But it did reserve the right to consider case-by-case whether companies were using data limits for anticompetitive purposes. After the election last year, the FCC notified AT&T and Verizon that their practices—which include letting companies pay to have their data zero-rated—were likely anticompetitive. But Pai and fellow Republican FCC commissioner Michael O'Rielly told the companies to wait until after Inauguration Day before worrying about altering their zero-rating programs. Today's announcement means they don't have to worry at all about zero-rating, and possibly broader net neutrality rules that the GOP-controlled FCC, or Congress itself, could soon spike.
Hmmm, I may have my timeline messed up on when they were declared ok. Thanks for the info.msteelers wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2018 10:13 amIs that completely accurate? I looked up zero rating, and from this article it looks like it was Ajit Pai that made zero rating ok.stessier wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2018 9:33 amThis isn't actually new. It's zero rating and it's been around for years. Even the last chairman said it was okay and it wasn't set to change the old rules.malchior wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2018 8:30 amI really thought they'd have the self-control to wait ... some period of time. Any period of time. This is pretty much proof that they know they can get away with almost anything.tjg_marantz wrote: ↑Sat Feb 24, 2018 11:45 pm https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/2 ... fast-lanes
Based on the article the old chairman didn't ban zero rating, but said that it would consider it on a case-by-case basis. After the election the commission said that AT&T's zero rating was in violation of the net neutrality laws. Then Pai came in and said zero rating was ok.
So yes, zero rating is something that's been around for awhile and the old chairman did not explicitly say it was wrong. But the plan that AT&T is expanding was deemed anticompetitive until Ajit Pai came in and said "no, you're good".The FCC didn't explicitly ban these types of practices in its sweeping net neutrality rules passed in 2015. But it did reserve the right to consider case-by-case whether companies were using data limits for anticompetitive purposes. After the election last year, the FCC notified AT&T and Verizon that their practices—which include letting companies pay to have their data zero-rated—were likely anticompetitive. But Pai and fellow Republican FCC commissioner Michael O'Rielly told the companies to wait until after Inauguration Day before worrying about altering their zero-rating programs. Today's announcement means they don't have to worry at all about zero-rating, and possibly broader net neutrality rules that the GOP-controlled FCC, or Congress itself, could soon spike.
What will that look like after the merger the article talks about?
So yeah, good news if you live in a state writing its own net neutrality laws. The rest of you should elect less corrupt dirtbags.that's not the crucial point when it comes to preemption of state laws. What's important is that the FCC's Republican leadership abandoned its authority to strictly regulate broadband, while simultaneously claiming that it has the authority to prevent states from strictly regulating broadband. That's where the FCC argument fails, Hansen said.
"Here is the oddity of the position that they're taking in the net neutrality repeal," Hansen said. "They're saying the Communications Act lacks any authority that would give them the ability to impose broad standards of conduct on the Internet but grants them broad sweeping authority to preempt state consumer protection laws related to the same area. It's not clear to me how this can be the case."
A lobby group that represents AT&T, Verizon, and other telcos plans to sue states and cities that try to enforce net neutrality rules.
USTelecom, the lobby group, made its intentions clear yesterday in a blog post titled, "All Americans Deserve Equal Rights Online."
"Broadband providers have worked hard over the past 20 years to deploy ever more sophisticated, faster and higher-capacity networks, and uphold net neutrality protections for all," USTelecom CEO Jonathan Spalter wrote. "To continue this important work, there is no question we will aggressively challenge state or municipal attempts to fracture the federal regulatory structure that made all this progress possible."
The USTelecom board of directors includes AT&T, Verizon, Frontier, CenturyLink, Windstream, and other telcos. The group's membership "ranges from the nation's largest telecom companies to small rural cooperatives."
States’ rights don’t apply to net neutrality
Ya really shows how they think of us. Fuck them.Large ISPs like Comcast and AT&T have threatened to sue any state that attempts to protect consumers.
Wish they'd arrest that little pussy FCC boy for something...anything.A California proposal that the EFF calls the "gold standard" for state level net neutrality rules is moving forward despite AT&T, Comcast and Verizon's best efforts to kill or weaken it.
She's the likely GOP nominee for the open Tennessee Senate seat this year, so good news is that you'll soon have a chance to vote against her.Daehawk wrote: ↑Thu Apr 19, 2018 11:30 pm ISPs should charge for fast lanes—just like TSA Precheck, GOP lawmaker says
Im ashamed that Blackburn bitch is part of my state. I wish her pain beyond death. She might as well stand up and yell "Send more money my way to fuck over more people yeehaaaa! Im a lobby whore!!"
Fucking fucktards.
California Net Neutrality Bill Moves Forward
Wish they'd arrest that little pussy FCC boy for something...anything.A California proposal that the EFF calls the "gold standard" for state level net neutrality rules is moving forward despite AT&T, Comcast and Verizon's best efforts to kill or weaken it.
Republican FCC commissioner Michael O’Rielly broke a federal law preventing officials from advocating for political candidates when he told a crowd that one way to avoid policy changes was to “make sure that President Trump gets reelected,” according to a newly released letter from government officials. O’Rielly was warned by the officials about making similar comments in the future.
The Hatch Act bars many federal employees from using their offices to influence an election. During the conservative CPAC conference in February, which was also attended by FCC chairman Ajit Pai, O’Rielly was asked about how to avoid rapid swings in policy ushered in by a new administration. “I think what we can do is make sure as conservatives that we elect good people to both the House, the Senate, and make sure that President Trump gets reelected,” he responded, adding that there would also be a fight in the US Senate over net neutrality rules.
The Senate voted Wednesday to pass a measure that would repeal changes to net neutrality rules that were recently adopted by the Republican-controlled Federal Communications Commission.
The measure, which was backed by all 49 Democrats and Republican Sens. Susan Collins of Maine, Lisa Murkowski of Alaska and John Kennedy of Louisiana, will be sent to the GOP-led House, where it'll likely go nowhere -- and President Donald Trump is unlikely to back it.