msduncan wrote:RunningMn9 wrote: <snip all the nonsensical bullshit out>
You guys have been moving the goal posts since I arrived at this forum in 2000/2001. What used to be conservative you now consider wacko. What used to be moderate, you now consider conservative.
The damn goal posts aren't even in this freakin stadium anymore. You sold the franchise to a new flipping city.
This forum is an amazing example of hive-mind. A cluster of core people relentlessly ridicule and attack beliefs that are not in perfect alignment with their own. This inevitably results in one of two outcomes with people: either they move toward the hive-mind (usually unintentionally and gradually) or they leave and stop posting.
And before you start up with the 'msduncan is playing victim' shit, I'm proud to say I haven't budged in the decade I've been here, and frankly I think it bugs the shit out of some of the hive-mind.
You've got it completely wrong. The hive-mind isn't OO. The hive-mind is the modern conservate movement, and this movement has completely destroyed the Republican party.
I'm still a registered Republican, mostly due to lazyness, and somewhat due to there not being a pure anti-authoritarian party. As a Republican I cannot favor legalization of drugs because that makes me pro-criminal and anti-police. I cannot favor gay-marriage because that makes me anti-family. I cannot favor cuts in defense because that makes me anti-troops. I cannot favor raising the capital gains tax rate because that makes me a redistributive socialist. I cannot favor increased regulation of "wall street" because that makes me anti-jobs. I cannot favor a sensible immigration policy because that makes me... I don't know what that would make me other than a sensible American.
If you need further proof of the republican hive-mind look no further than rapidly increasing popularity and use of the term RINO.
The only glimmer of hope that I can see in the Republican party is the surprising amount of popularity of Ron Paul. Paul is extreme, and in some cases a complete loon, but his popularity says that there is a movement in the party that I hope will culminate in kicking the family-values-social-conservatives to the curb. Busting up this current crop of self-styled "Modern Conservatives" is the only way to keep the Republicans and conservatives in general from becoming an army of political zombies.