Octopus Overlords

Holman wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 5:53 pm A propos, NK last week insulted both Mike Pompeo and John Bolton personally in public statements.

GreenGoo wrote:

Max Peck wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 3:57 pm So Trump agreed to pay a ransom demand to get him back.

Worse, imo. Drumpf agreed to pay for the outcome of torturing an American.

That said, it's not even a drop in America's bucket and one of it's citizens will come home.

That said, America has nukes, air force and economic power. NK should get it's teeth kicked in if it wants to start trying to embarrass America on the world stage. There's defiance. There's yipping like a dog who's bark is too big for it's bite, then there's this sort of humiliation.

For all the redneck tough guys and war hawks in America, they are just going to stand back and eat this humiliation on the world stage? MAGA indeed.

GreenGoo wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 6:11 pm

Holman wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 5:53 pm A propos, NK last week insulted both Mike Pompeo and John Bolton personally in public statements.

What bugs me about that is not that it happened, but that drumpf immediately started looking (I'm guessing, but you don't have to be Kreskin) for someone to replace them that Kim won't insult.

“President Donald J. Trump is the greatest hostage negotiator that I know of in the history of the United States. 20 hostages, many in impossible circumstances, have been released in last two years. No money was paid.” Cheif Hostage Negotiator, USA!

The most likely explanation would be that Gary Noesner, a former chief of the FBI's Crisis Negotiation Unit, made one of his occasional TV appearances and said something nice about Trump.

WASHINGTON (AP) — U.S. government says it has seized North Korean ship used to transport coal in violation of sanctions.

Holman wrote: ↑Thu May 30, 2019 9:03 pm

Love letters between Trump and Kim just got *fucking hot!*

Over the past year, there have been handshakes, compliments and extravagant photo-ops—in Singapore, in Hanoi and even at the demilitarized zone separating the two Koreas.

President Trump’s summit diplomacy has raised hopes around the world: Is North Korea now willing to surrender its nuclear arsenal?

Analysts who pore over satellite images of the isolated country paint a different picture: North Korea’s scientists have ramped up production of long-range missiles and the fissile material used in nuclear weapons.

Shipping containers, trucks and crowds of people moving materials and instruments at North Korea’s key weapons facilities like the Yongbyon Nuclear Scientific Research Center and the Sanum-dong missile production site, suggest North Korea has continued producing fissile material and intercontinental ballistic missiles, according to analysts Jenny Town, a fellow at the Stimson Center, a think tank specialized on security issues, and Jeffrey Lewis, a researcher at the James Martin Center for Nonproliferation Studies, a research center analyzing the spread of weapons of mass destruction.

Analysts at the U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency say North Korea’s scientists may have produced 12 nuclear weapons since the first Trump-Kim meeting in Singapore last year. In total, Pyongyang could currently possess between 20 and 60 nuclear bombs, according to estimates by various security analysts.

President Trump has played down evidence gathered by security analysts that North Korea is continuing its nuclear operations, saying in a recent televised interview that Kim “promised he wouldn’t do it.” And Pyongyang has remained silent on the status of its nuclear and missile programs.

Shortly before midnight on Thursday, a South Korean thermal observation device identified a mysterious heat spot floating down the Imjin River on the North Korean border.

The soldiers monitoring the foggy scene thought it was flotsam, perhaps a small ball. It turned out to be a defecting North Korean soldier. "The North Korean soldier came down the river with only his head above the water," Seoul's Joint Chiefs of Staff explained on Thursday, according to the South Korean Ministry of Defense.
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The soldier was taken into custody in the central front line of the DMZ and "expressed the intent for defection." South Korean authorities are now trying to confirm the identity of the soldier.

North Korea has confirmed it test-fired a new type of a ballistic missile, a significant escalation from the short-range tests it has conducted since May.

The missile - which was able to carry a nuclear weapon - was the North's 11th test this year.

But this one, fired from a platform at sea, was capable of being launched from a submarine.

Being submarine-capable is important as it means North Korea could launch missiles far outside its territory.

According to South Korean officials, the missile flew about 450km (280 miles) and reached an altitude of 910km before landing in the sea.

That means the missile flew twice as high as the International Space Station, but previous North Korean tests have gone higher.

It came down in the Sea of Japan, also known in South Korea as the East Sea. Japan said it landed in its exclusive economic zone - a band of 200km around Japanese territory.

The test came hours after North Korea said nuclear talks with the US would resume.

Daehawk wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2019 5:09 pm Cant do anything it seems but its a shame to just let places like NK and Iran simply build up to nuclear weapons while you just stand twiddling thumbs. Sites should be bombed and taken out. So much shit both ways. Im glad Ill be dead and off this planet before it totally goes to shit..if Im lucky.

The US has denied that its day of nuclear talks with North Korea ended in failure, insisting that "good discussions" were had.

Earlier, North Korea said the meeting had broken down, because the US brought "nothing to the negotiation table".

Officials from the two countries met in Sweden on Saturday, in the hope of breaking their stalemate.
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On Saturday evening, North Korea's top nuclear envoy Kim Myong Gil spoke to reporters outside the embassy, saying "the negotiations have not fulfilled our expectation and finally broke off".

"The US raised expectations by offering suggestions like a flexible approach, new method and creative solutions, but they have disappointed us greatly," he added.

He said "the US would not give up their old viewpoint and attitude".

However, shortly afterwards, the US State Department released a contradictory statement from spokeswoman Morgan Ortagus.

"The early comments from the DPRK [North Korean] delegation do not reflect the content or the spirit of today's 8.5-hour discussion," it read. "The US brought creative ideas and had good discussions with its DPRK counterparts."

Isgrimnur wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2019 10:44 pm BBC

The US has denied that its day of nuclear talks with North Korea ended in failure, insisting that "good discussions" were had.

Earlier, North Korea said the meeting had broken down, because the US brought "nothing to the negotiation table".

Officials from the two countries met in Sweden on Saturday, in the hope of breaking their stalemate.
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On Saturday evening, North Korea's top nuclear envoy Kim Myong Gil spoke to reporters outside the embassy, saying "the negotiations have not fulfilled our expectation and finally broke off".

"The US raised expectations by offering suggestions like a flexible approach, new method and creative solutions, but they have disappointed us greatly," he added.

He said "the US would not give up their old viewpoint and attitude".

However, shortly afterwards, the US State Department released a contradictory statement from spokeswoman Morgan Ortagus.

"The early comments from the DPRK [North Korean] delegation do not reflect the content or the spirit of today's 8.5-hour discussion," it read. "The US brought creative ideas and had good discussions with its DPRK counterparts."

Is it bad that I find the Nork statement more believable?

Kraken wrote: ↑Fri Dec 06, 2019 1:20 am It's time for season 2 of Rocket Man and the Dotard!

Everything Trump does is about him and his reelection, so why is he reviving NK as an enemy? Foreign enemies are good? No, he has Iran for that. Setting up for another peacemaker show? Maybe. Plain old blundering? Probably.

Denuclearization is off the table in negotiations with the United States, North Korea's ambassador to the United Nations said in a statement Saturday.

In the statement, the ambassador, Kim Song, said the United States' pursuit of "sustained and substantial dialogue" was a "time-saving trick" to benefit a "domestic political agenda."

"We do not need to have lengthy talks with the US now and the denuclearization is already gone out of the negotiation table," he said.

Christmas Day came and went with no sign of the “gift” that North Korea warned could come.

North Korea hailed a test of "super large" rocket launchers, just hours after the South condemned the state as "inappropriate" for pursing tests amid the global coronavirus outbreak

On Sunday, South Korea said two short-range missiles had been fired, the latest in a flurry of tests this month.

The North generally ramps up missile tests in the spring and the global virus outbreak has not deterred it.

It has reported no virus cases, but experts have cast doubt on this.

Sunday's test was of two short-range ballistic missiles fired from the eastern city of Wonsan. They flew for 410km (255 miles) with a maximum altitude of around 50km before falling into the sea, the South Korean military said.

Then on Monday, North Korean state media outlet KCNA reported that it had successfully tested "super large" multiple rocket launchers.

Max Peck wrote:You know, I'm a little disappointed in the internet for not serving up a juicy conspiracy theory linking North Korea's promise of a "Christmas present" with the timeline of the pandemic and the Nork claim that they have no COVID-19 cases.