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National Weather Service makes huge ammunition purchase

Postby msduncan » Tue Aug 14, 2012 1:41 pm

Linked from Drudge. Not sure of the source, but if true this is very very bizarre:

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Re: National Weather Service makes huge ammunition purchase

Postby msduncan » Tue Aug 14, 2012 1:43 pm

It appears to be legit:

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Re: National Weather Service makes huge ammunition purchase

Postby Ralph-Wiggum » Tue Aug 14, 2012 1:48 pm

That's one way to attack global warming.
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Re: National Weather Service makes huge ammunition purchase

Postby Smoove_B » Tue Aug 14, 2012 1:50 pm

More here, from the Washington Post:

UPDATE, 1:07 p.m.: NOAA says there was a “clerical error” in the FedBizOpps announcement stating the NWS required ammunition. The solicitation actually originated from the “NOAA Fisheries Office of Law Enforcement” not the National Weather Service. See bottom of post for more details.

Due to a clerical error in the federal business vendor process, a solicitation for ammunition and targets for the NOAA Fisheries Office of Law Enforcement mistakenly identified NOAA’s National Weather Service as the requesting office. The error is being fixed and will soon appear correctly in the electronic federal bidding system. The ammunition is standard issue for many law enforcement agencies and it will be used by 63 NOAA enforcement agents in their twice annual target qualifications and training.


Edit: I mean, if you want to believe the Post over InfoWars and Prison Planet, of course.
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Re: National Weather Service makes huge ammunition purchase

Postby Holman » Tue Aug 14, 2012 2:09 pm

I'm sure there was some wonderfully thoughtful and temperate discussion of this episode in Conspiracyland, but I haven't the courage to look.
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Postby Scraper » Tue Aug 14, 2012 2:38 pm

Holman wrote:I'm sure there was some wonderfully thoughtful and temperate discussion of this episode in Conspiracyland, but I haven't the courage to look.


The best part is those same guys won't let it die and will insist that this correction is a cover up.
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Re: National Weather Service makes huge ammunition purchase

Postby Freezer-TPF- » Tue Aug 14, 2012 2:39 pm

Makes sense to me. If I've learned anything from movie trailers, it's that once someone says "there's a storm coming," lots of fighting and shooting and explosions are soon to follow.
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Re: National Weather Service makes huge ammunition purchase

Postby LawBeefaroni » Tue Aug 14, 2012 2:44 pm

Scraper wrote:
Holman wrote:I'm sure there was some wonderfully thoughtful and temperate discussion of this episode in Conspiracyland, but I haven't the courage to look.


The best part is those same guys won't let it die and will insist that this correction is a cover up.



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Re: National Weather Service makes huge ammunition purchase

Postby Rip » Tue Aug 14, 2012 2:52 pm

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Re: National Weather Service makes huge ammunition purchase

Postby hepcat » Tue Aug 14, 2012 2:53 pm

Hey buddy, the NWS deals with high winds and other drug crazed weather conditions on a daily basis. Who are you to begrudge them a little protection?
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Postby $iljanus » Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:18 pm

And everyone thought it would be FEMA which would set up the New World Order. Very sneaky...
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Re: National Weather Service makes huge ammunition purchase

Postby Jag » Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:18 pm

Due to a clerical error in the federal business vendor process, a solicitation for ammunition and targets for the NOAA Fisheries Office of Law Enforcement


Why do they need ammo for the fisheries?
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Postby $iljanus » Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:20 pm

Jag wrote:
Due to a clerical error in the federal business vendor process, a solicitation for ammunition and targets for the NOAA Fisheries Office of Law Enforcement


Why do they need ammo for the fisheries?


For the war on Snakeheads. Or that secret flying piranha project that has gone awry. Don't you watch the SyFy channel?
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Re: National Weather Service makes huge ammunition purchase

Postby LawBeefaroni » Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:25 pm

Jag wrote:
Due to a clerical error in the federal business vendor process, a solicitation for ammunition and targets for the NOAA Fisheries Office of Law Enforcement


Why do they need ammo for the fisheries?

Poaching, smuggling, etc.


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Re: National Weather Service makes huge ammunition purchase

Postby El Guapo » Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:26 pm

They also submitted a supplemental request for a bigger boat.
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Postby Enough » Tue Aug 14, 2012 5:00 pm

What is it with Drudge regularly linking to Infowars? And what is with anyone taking them seriously?
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Re: National Weather Service makes huge ammunition purchase

Postby Mr. Fed » Tue Aug 14, 2012 6:02 pm

It's the same reason that the Department of Education needed shotguns.
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Re: National Weather Service makes huge ammunition purchase

Postby Exodor » Tue Aug 14, 2012 6:03 pm

Mr. Fed wrote:It's the same reason that the Department of Education needed shotguns.


Those of us with school-aged children completely understand this purchase.
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Re: National Weather Service makes huge ammunition purchase

Postby Rip » Tue Aug 14, 2012 6:27 pm

Jag wrote:
Due to a clerical error in the federal business vendor process, a solicitation for ammunition and targets for the NOAA Fisheries Office of Law Enforcement


Why do they need ammo for the fisheries?


Wouldn't fending off an Octopi invasion fall to them?

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Re: National Weather Service makes huge ammunition purchase

Postby Scraper » Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:01 am

Enough wrote:What is it with Drudge regularly linking to Infowars? And what is with anyone taking them seriously?


I consider Drudge to be just a slight step above infowars in the reliability department. Which is to say it's not reliable at all. But at least Drudge mostly links to real journalism, whereas infowars often just makes shit up. They both go out of their way to create really biased and misleading headlines though.
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Re: National Weather Service makes huge ammunition purchase

Postby LawBeefaroni » Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:09 am

Scraper wrote:
Enough wrote:What is it with Drudge regularly linking to Infowars? And what is with anyone taking them seriously?


I consider Drudge to be just a slight step above infowars in the reliability department. Which is to say it's not reliable at all. But at least Drudge mostly links to real journalism, whereas infowars often just makes shit up. They both go out of their way to create really biased and misleading headlines though.

Actually, what makes Infowars/PP dangerous is that they take real news (say this NWS ammo order gaffe) with real background and then fly off into woowoo land. They take Fast and Furious and shoe-horn it into the World Government Takeover anti-2nd amendment conspiracy.

Texas buys gunboats at $600K a pop? Real news. Texas is preparing to come for your guns? Conspiracy theory. But the damage is done, people see an armored gunboat with dual .50s and a Texas State Police emblem and they're sold. A little truth is a dangerous thing.

Also, Infowars spams with the theories so sometimes they "break" stories. Purely by chance but it happens and I think that's why Drudge links to them now.
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Re: National Weather Service makes huge ammunition purchase

Postby Smoove_B » Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:10 am

LawBeefaroni wrote:Also, Infowars spams with the theories so sometimes they "break" stories. Purely by chance but it happens and I think that's why Drudge links to them now.


And almost 24 hours after the clarification was issued, the original story is still up on Drudge.
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Re: National Weather Service makes huge ammunition purchase

Postby LawBeefaroni » Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:33 am

Smoove_B wrote:
LawBeefaroni wrote:Also, Infowars spams with the theories so sometimes they "break" stories. Purely by chance but it happens and I think that's why Drudge links to them now.


And almost 24 hours after the clarification was issued, the original story is still up on Drudge.


Most people won't care. (there's a better study but I can't find it right now)
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Re: National Weather Service makes huge ammunition purchase

Postby Enough » Thu Aug 16, 2012 1:04 pm

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Postby $iljanus » Thu Aug 16, 2012 1:18 pm

Mr. Fed wrote:It's the same reason that the Department of Education needed shotguns.


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Re: National Weather Service makes huge ammunition purchase

Postby Mr. Fed » Thu Aug 16, 2012 8:58 pm

Incidentally, I read someplace that hollow-point bullets are preferred on the range because they cause less wear and tear -- so that these rounds are likely for qualifying and practice. Any shooters able to confirm that?
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Re: National Weather Service makes huge ammunition purchase

Postby Blackhawk » Thu Aug 16, 2012 9:00 pm

I've never heard that specifically, although jacketed or semi-jacketed are usually preferred because they cause less fouling.
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Re: National Weather Service makes huge ammunition purchase

Postby Apollo » Thu Aug 16, 2012 10:58 pm

Blackhawk wrote:I've never heard that specifically, although jacketed or semi-jacketed are usually preferred because they cause less fouling.


Agreed. The only positives I've heard about hollow-point rounds are that they are more lethal than normal rounds and are less likely to travel through multiple walls if you are shooting at a burglar in your home. :?
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Re: National Weather Service makes huge ammunition purchase

Postby silverjon » Thu Aug 16, 2012 11:01 pm

Mr. Fed wrote:Incidentally, I read someplace that hollow-point bullets are preferred on the range because they cause less wear and tear -- so that these rounds are likely for qualifying and practice. Any shooters able to confirm that?


Likely?

From Smoove's correction:

The ammunition is standard issue for many law enforcement agencies and it will be used by 63 NOAA enforcement agents in their twice annual target qualifications and training.
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Re: National Weather Service makes huge ammunition purchase

Postby Rip » Fri Aug 17, 2012 12:03 am

Mr. Fed wrote:Incidentally, I read someplace that hollow-point bullets are preferred on the range because they cause less wear and tear -- so that these rounds are likely for qualifying and practice. Any shooters able to confirm that?


Most competition PPC match shooters I know would user wadcutters to get in practice.

edit to add:

However most of these people are shooting to maintain familiarity. It is usually recommended to use a round with the same recoil you would get from your duty round.

Wadcutters are usually loaded to be a lower velocity and have less recoil.

Competition shooters shoot enough rounds to know how to adjust.
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