msduncan wrote:There hasn't been a shift and the suggestion that there has is liberal fantasy bullshit. If any shift has happened, it's been the Democrats coming out of the closet in favor of mimicking European policy and society. This was a stigma 15 years ago, but the left has become more brazen and honest about it the past 5 years or so.
What's amusing is the created fantasy about Republicans shifting right. It's simply bullshit. Republicans have always been pro-gun, anti-abortion, pro tax cuts (Reagan, Bush I, Bush II), hawkish (Grenada, Iraq I, Iraq II, Afghanistan, Iran I, Iran II).
I understand where some of you might delude yourself thinking Republicans have shifted right. It's easy to mistake when your entire party shifts leftward towards European policy to think the other side shifted and you stayed still. There were a lot of people that thought the Sun revolved around the Earth too. The Democrats are the modern day versions of that.
OK, but how do you reconcile this with the fact that both Nixon and Gingrich (and Romney) essentially supported the general Health Care plan that became Obamacare in previous decades?
Is it just that those were compromise positions that were never to actually be met, but designed to prevent a Health Care overhaul from happening, or do as much to limit it as possible? Maybe because the traditional Democratic Majorities in Congress that held from 1955-1995 disappeared in the Gingrich revolution?
Alternatively, that Nixon, Reagan and Bush 1 raised taxes to levels higher than they currently are, but that raising taxes is currently considered Socialism with a capital 'S' amongst what appears to be the majority of self-identified Republicans. So while they may have believed that tax cuts were a good, they also seemed to think that taxes served a valid purpose as well.
These strike me as much more extreme positions than the Republican party staked out for the majority of the latter half of the 20th Century, and I would especially welcome your thoughtful input.
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