That is not dead which can eternal lie, and with strange aeons bring us some web forums whereupon we can gather
http://www.octopusoverlords.com/forum/
And yet pretend they are "pro-life". After being complicit in over 300k deaths.Skinypupy wrote:It’s their god-given right as patriotic Americans to catch and die from a communicable disease if they want to, dammit. How dare you take that freedom from them!
Noem is a hero for protecting that right.
Almost half of Republicans support the pro-Trump protesters who stormed the U.S. Capitol on Wednesday, putting them at odds with Democrats who largely oppose the actions of the demonstrators, a poll has found.
The survey released by YouGov on Thursday morning found that 45 percent of Republican voters backed the attack on the Capitol building, while 43 percent said they "strongly or somewhat" opposed the protesters' behavior.
At what point can we stop calling the current party "Conservative" - they've proven over the last four years that they're driven entirely by the lust for power. The party tagline is more or less "LIBERALS WANT TO EAT YOUR CHILDREN" and other such nonsense. Anything to spark fear and hatred.
Indeed. Nearly half the party's members in the House voting that the Vice President should override the will of the states is. Um. Well, it's... What's the word--not conservative, no, that's not it. Ah, yes. Extremely radical.Paingod wrote: ↑Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:10 amAt what point can we stop calling the current party "Conservative" - they've proven over the last four years that they're driven entirely by the lust for power. The party tagline is more or less "LIBERALS WANT TO EAT YOUR CHILDREN" and other such nonsense. Anything to spark fear and hatred.
Or: Liberals=Socialism (and are child molesters/Satan worshipers)Paingod wrote:At what point can we stop calling the current party "Conservative" - they've proven over the last four years that they're driven entirely by the lust for power. The party tagline is more or less "LIBERALS WANT TO EAT YOUR CHILDREN" and other such nonsense. Anything to spark fear and hatred.
Yup. Biden needs to get people to realize that there's a price for sedition.malchior wrote:JFC
I think Conservative refers to conserving the power, privilege and money of white men.Paingod wrote: ↑Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:10 amAt what point can we stop calling the current party "Conservative" - they've proven over the last four years that they're driven entirely by the lust for power. The party tagline is more or less "LIBERALS WANT TO EAT YOUR CHILDREN" and other such nonsense. Anything to spark fear and hatred.
Well, I guess that's that then. Our country is screwed. I'm packing now for a move to Venezuela where things are a little more stable.Smoove_B wrote: ↑Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:03 am This should help in defining the party:
Almost half of Republicans support the pro-Trump protesters who stormed the U.S. Capitol on Wednesday, putting them at odds with Democrats who largely oppose the actions of the demonstrators, a poll has found.
The survey released by YouGov on Thursday morning found that 45 percent of Republican voters backed the attack on the Capitol building, while 43 percent said they "strongly or somewhat" opposed the protesters' behavior.
Miller, from Oakland, a small town in southeast Illinois, spoke at the “Moms for America Saving the Republic” rally outside the Capitol on Tuesday.
Miller earlier announced she was joining with other Republicans in objecting to Congress certifying the election of Joe Biden, who beat President Donald Trump in the popular and electoral votes.
At the rally, Miller, said, “Each generation has the responsibility to teach the next generation. You know, if we win a few elections we’re still going to be losing unless we win the hearts of our children. It’s the battle. Hitler was right on one thing that whoever has the youth has the future. Our children are being propagandized.”
That was excellent.Zaxxon wrote: ↑Fri Jan 08, 2021 10:19 am I thought Scalzi's summary is one of his better posts.
But what if we... didn't?
Sheldon Adelson, who rose from selling newspapers on Boston street corners at age 12 to one of the most successful luxury resort developers, philanthropists and political influencers of his generation, died Monday night at his home in Malibu, California. He was 87.
Adelson founded and served as Chairman and CEO of Las Vegas Sands Corp., the world’s largest gaming corporation, from its inception in 1988. He had been on medical leave from the company since Jan. 7 to resume his fight against non-Hodgkin’s lymphoma, which he had battled since 2019.
“It is with unbearable pain that I announce the death of my husband, Sheldon G. Adelson, of complications from a long illness,” his wife, Dr. Miriam Adelson, said in a Tuesday statement provided by Las Vegas Sands.
“To me — as to his children, grandchildren, and his legions of friends and admirers, employees and colleagues — he is utterly irreplaceable.”
Under Adelson’s leadership, Las Vegas Sands pioneered the integrated resort model that now dominates the Strip, combining luxury hotel-casinos with convention centers. Adelson’s concept was so popular and financially successful that he became one of the world’s wealthiest people.
Adelson shared that wealth as a generous philanthropist. Along with his wife, Dr. Miriam Adelson, he underwrote medical research, a private school, drug rehabilitation clinics and numerous other causes.
Adelson’s conservative values, love for the United States and Israel, and his desire to preserve the strongest diplomatic and cultural ties possible between the nations compelled him to embrace and support Jewish causes. He became one of America’s most influential political megadonors, contributing hundreds of millions of dollars to Republican candidates and conservative PACs over the past two decades.
Ah, here it is. "On Monday, Quinnipiac University released similar findings: Trump’s overall approval dipped to 33 percent, tied for the lowest the pollster has recorded. The drop among Republicans was 18 points, to 71 percent" ... "Among Republicans, Trump’s strong approval fell from 79 to 58 percent in Quinnipiac’s poll. In Marist’s, it dropped from 74 to 64 percent. The percentage of Republicans who strongly disapprove of the president increased by nine points in Quinnipiac’s poll and by 11 in Marist’s."Grifman wrote: ↑Fri Jan 15, 2021 12:08 am From what I've read, there's not going to be a reset after Trump. The RNC is filled with his people, and die hard Trumpers have control of many local and state parties.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/14/us/p ... icans.html
Yeah, but he still has strong approval at 57%, even after this. The only way for him to be out of a position of major influence is prison, which is what I am hoping for. The best thing for Democrats would be Trump imprisoned and many of his followers fade away, leaving the Republican Party crippled.Kraken wrote: ↑Fri Jan 15, 2021 12:31 amAh, here it is. "On Monday, Quinnipiac University released similar findings: Trump’s overall approval dipped to 33 percent, tied for the lowest the pollster has recorded. The drop among Republicans was 18 points, to 71 percent" ... "Among Republicans, Trump’s strong approval fell from 79 to 58 percent in Quinnipiac’s poll. In Marist’s, it dropped from 74 to 64 percent. The percentage of Republicans who strongly disapprove of the president increased by nine points in Quinnipiac’s poll and by 11 in Marist’s."Grifman wrote: ↑Fri Jan 15, 2021 12:08 am From what I've read, there's not going to be a reset after Trump. The RNC is filled with his people, and die hard Trumpers have control of many local and state parties.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/14/us/p ... icans.html
More detail at the link for poll fans.
Or dead of natural causes. Dead works for me.Grifman wrote: ↑Fri Jan 15, 2021 1:29 amYeah, but he still has strong approval at 57%, even after this. The only way for him to be out of a position of major influence is prison, which is what I am hoping for. The best thing for Democrats would be Trump imprisoned and many of his followers fade away, leaving the Republican Party crippled.Kraken wrote: ↑Fri Jan 15, 2021 12:31 amAh, here it is. "On Monday, Quinnipiac University released similar findings: Trump’s overall approval dipped to 33 percent, tied for the lowest the pollster has recorded. The drop among Republicans was 18 points, to 71 percent" ... "Among Republicans, Trump’s strong approval fell from 79 to 58 percent in Quinnipiac’s poll. In Marist’s, it dropped from 74 to 64 percent. The percentage of Republicans who strongly disapprove of the president increased by nine points in Quinnipiac’s poll and by 11 in Marist’s."Grifman wrote: ↑Fri Jan 15, 2021 12:08 am From what I've read, there's not going to be a reset after Trump. The RNC is filled with his people, and die hard Trumpers have control of many local and state parties.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/14/us/p ... icans.html
More detail at the link for poll fans.
I don't think that's the best thing for the Democrats at all. The best thing for the Democrats - and our republic - would be to have two functional, sane political parties. Even if you disagree with core principles of the GOP platform (or, at least, what that platform used to be), it's vital that we have options and alternatives. We all benefit from hearing competing viewpoints and ideas. The Democratic party is a big tent, and there are certainly different voices within that tent, but it's not the same as having a competing viewpoint from another party. I fear for what the Democratic party will become if it's operating in a vacuum.Grifman wrote: ↑Fri Jan 15, 2021 1:29 amYeah, but he still has strong approval at 57%, even after this. The only way for him to be out of a position of major influence is prison, which is what I am hoping for. The best thing for Democrats would be Trump imprisoned and many of his followers fade away, leaving the Republican Party crippled.Kraken wrote: ↑Fri Jan 15, 2021 12:31 amAh, here it is. "On Monday, Quinnipiac University released similar findings: Trump’s overall approval dipped to 33 percent, tied for the lowest the pollster has recorded. The drop among Republicans was 18 points, to 71 percent" ... "Among Republicans, Trump’s strong approval fell from 79 to 58 percent in Quinnipiac’s poll. In Marist’s, it dropped from 74 to 64 percent. The percentage of Republicans who strongly disapprove of the president increased by nine points in Quinnipiac’s poll and by 11 in Marist’s."Grifman wrote: ↑Fri Jan 15, 2021 12:08 am From what I've read, there's not going to be a reset after Trump. The RNC is filled with his people, and die hard Trumpers have control of many local and state parties.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/14/us/p ... icans.html
More detail at the link for poll fans.
the 95% of House Representatives voting against Impeachment doesn't tell me that (yet).Kraken wrote: ↑Fri Jan 15, 2021 1:56 amOr dead of natural causes. Dead works for me.Grifman wrote: ↑Fri Jan 15, 2021 1:29 amYeah, but he still has strong approval at 57%, even after this. The only way for him to be out of a position of major influence is prison, which is what I am hoping for. The best thing for Democrats would be Trump imprisoned and many of his followers fade away, leaving the Republican Party crippled.Kraken wrote: ↑Fri Jan 15, 2021 12:31 amAh, here it is. "On Monday, Quinnipiac University released similar findings: Trump’s overall approval dipped to 33 percent, tied for the lowest the pollster has recorded. The drop among Republicans was 18 points, to 71 percent" ... "Among Republicans, Trump’s strong approval fell from 79 to 58 percent in Quinnipiac’s poll. In Marist’s, it dropped from 74 to 64 percent. The percentage of Republicans who strongly disapprove of the president increased by nine points in Quinnipiac’s poll and by 11 in Marist’s."Grifman wrote: ↑Fri Jan 15, 2021 12:08 am From what I've read, there's not going to be a reset after Trump. The RNC is filled with his people, and die hard Trumpers have control of many local and state parties.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/14/us/p ... icans.html
More detail at the link for poll fans.
Right now, R voters are jumping off the trump train. Ultimately only his most rabid fans will be left. Even though there are a lot of them, if the RNC doubles down on fascism they're going to regret it.
I don’t know that to be true. Prior to the GOP’s currrent demonization of the sciences, environmentalism was actually a cause many Republicans supported.