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Re: Political Randomness

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They should have solved this the old fashioned way - hire minority shills!
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So are they just openly doing drugs at MSNBC now?

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Mills signs executive order to expand Medicaid
Gov. Janet Mills signed an executive order on Thursday to expand Medicaid, fulfilling a campaign vow that ends the long delays imposed by the fervent opposition of her Republican predecessor, Paul LePage.

More than 70,000 Mainers will be eligible for MaineCare health insurance under the expansion. Mills, who had promised to act on “day one” of her administration, was sworn into office Wednesday evening and signed “Executive Order 1” on Thursday.

Mainers can begin signing up for coverage immediately, Mills’ office said. To find out how to do so, those eligible can visit the Maine Department of Health and Human Services website. About 4,500 Mainers attempted to sign up under expansion in 2018 but were rebuffed by the LePage administration.

Naomi Loss, of Lisbon Falls, said it’s a day she’s been waiting for nearly a year, when her daughter Bethany turned 26 and was no longer eligible to be on her mother’s health insurance. Bethany, who is uninsured, has epilepsy and severe cognitive and developmental disorders, but was denied Medicaid disability and did not qualify for subsidized Affordable Care Act insurance. Bethany’s medications cost more than $1,000 per month, and rebates from the pharmaceutical company that helped their family afford the medications were set to run out early this year.
It's a little weird to be reading about an executive order that doesn't seem, well, evil. :think:
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It's all or nothing. No half way for the GOP.

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Post by Paingod » Fri Jan 04, 2019 8:01 am

Max Peck wrote:
Thu Jan 03, 2019 7:04 pm
It's a little weird to be reading about an executive order that doesn't seem, well, evil. :think:
We did have LePage up here, working hard to screw over anyone he didn't like or wouldn't invite to a birthday party before her, so it's kind of nice to be rid of that and see something positive.

I'm hoping the former governor is fuming. He fought this to the last breath of his office, despite it being the will of the voters.
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Post by Max Peck » Tue Jan 08, 2019 12:29 am

Please don’t repeat these things WikiLeaks says you can’t say about Assange
A representative of WikiLeaks has sent a "confidential" memo to news outlets including an updated "defamation list" (version 1.2), advising reporters not to mention or publish it. The memo was promptly leaked (update: the first out of the gate to leak was Emma Best of MuckRock). WikiLeaks then linked to a revised, heavily edited and redacted version (version 1.3) they posted "anonymously" on a text paste site.

Here, without further comment or editing, and in its entirety, is the WikiLeaks advisory.
In the revised v1.3 document, Wikileaks has backed off entirely on the assertion that "It is false and defamatory to suggest that Julian Assange stinks." :coffee:
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Re: Political Randomness

Post by Defiant » Tue Jan 08, 2019 12:31 am

It is false and defamatory to suggest that Julian Assange has ever walked into embassy meeting rooms in his underwear.
I guess he goes commando?

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Post by Unagi » Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:04 am

pr0ner wrote:
Fri Jan 04, 2019 12:11 am
Man. Lou Dobbs. I think it was like 20 years ago or so where I thought he was sorta a 'straight shooter'. I didn't agree with his take on things all the time, but I thought his arguments were based in reality and honesty, etc.

Today's Lou Dobbs is off his rocker conspiracy-like creepy. Just weird for me to see sometimes. Turns my stomach.

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Post by LordMortis » Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:14 am

I don't remember thinking him crazy until a few year ago. But now I think he's so much off the deep end, when I turned on the Fox Business Channel, new to my cable network, he was on, on for about two minutes of batshit crazy and I promptly deleted Fox Business Channel from my channel list, figuring if this was part of their prime time, then nothing about the channel can be trusted.

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Post by Enough » Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:45 pm

How's that unfunded trillion and a half dollar tax cut working for us?
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Post by Skinypupy » Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:29 am

I don't always agree with AOC, but have to give her credit for being superb on social media. Her response to Joe Liebermann saying he hoped she wasn't the future of the Dems was stellar.


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Post by pr0ner » Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:51 am

Well, this is a disgusting thing that happened in Texas this week.

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Post by Holman » Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:37 pm

Skinypupy wrote:
Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:29 am
I don't always agree with AOC, but have to give her credit for being superb on social media. Her response to Joe Liebermann saying he hoped she wasn't the future of the Dems was stellar.
Yeah, she's great that way.

I don't even mind that she's wrong on some policy issues--she's only one rep, and it takes a party to build a platform.

But I *love* seeing a high-profile young Dem who knows how to fight back against the propaganda and bullshit spewing from the Right. Dems have been politely cowering ever since Reagan made "liberal" a bad word, and AOC is showing how to get past that.

Also... does Liebermann think there's a secret reserve of Old White Men waiting to take the party back to the first Clinton era?
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Re: Political Randomness

Post by Holman » Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:44 pm

Oh, and this... :lol:


AOC wrote:To quote Alan Moore: “None of you understand. I'm not locked up in here with YOU. You're locked up in here with ME.”
Bonus points for quoting the comic and not the movie.
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Post by pr0ner » Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:54 pm

There is some irony of her quoting words spoken by Rorschach, though.
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Post by Octavious » Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:07 pm

Fox News is obsessed with her for some reason. I guess a liberal female latino is just too much for them to handle. :lol:
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Post by pr0ner » Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:15 pm

Octavious wrote:
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Fox News is obsessed with her for some reason. I guess a liberal female latino is just too much for them to handle. :lol:
Daily Caller is obsessed with her, too, going so far as to publish stories dealing with fake nude pictures of her.
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Post by LawBeefaroni » Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:19 pm

pr0ner wrote:
Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:15 pm
Octavious wrote:
Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:07 pm
Fox News is obsessed with her for some reason. I guess a liberal female latino is just too much for them to handle. :lol:
Daily Caller is obsessed with her, too, going so far as to publish stories dealing with fake nude pictures of her.


Her campaign just got fined $1,500 for failing to have valid workers comp for 1 month (April 2018). It's probably a book keeping error or just poor office management rather than "OMG denying workers coverage "but nonetheless Fox and DC are beating it into the ground.

Yeah, she's anti worker and her campaign was a slush fund.

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Re: Political Randomness

Post by GreenGoo » Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:23 pm

Holman wrote:
Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:44 pm
Bonus points for quoting the comic and not the movie.
I have never read the comic, and I recognize that quote. How is it different from the movie?

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Post by Paingod » Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:42 pm

Copied and pasted from quote sites:

Graphic Novel: None of you understand. I'm not locked up in here with YOU. You're locked up in here with ME.
Movie: I'm not locked in here with you. You're locked in here with me!
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Lol.

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Post by Enough » Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:18 pm

I am not lock step in agreement with AOC, but it sure is nice to have some humor and youth as an anecdote to the typical geriatric fare we get in our politicians. She's owning the label liberal and determined to make it cool.
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Post by Defiant » Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:16 pm

I am shocked that "exasperated" "establishment" Democrats might not be all that happy with the new hire that's been plotting to replace them.

As to AOC, shes made some smart moves and some embarrassing mistake. I'm still kind of puzzled as to why she's a thing, though - has any freshmen ever gotten this kind of attention?

But it is amazing the way she's driven Republicans visibly wacky. I think only Hillary and Obama got this amount of attention from them.

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Post by malchior » Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:25 pm

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I am shocked that "exasperated" "establishment" Democrats might not be all that happy with the new hire that's been plotting to replace them.

As to AOC, shes made some smart moves and some embarrassing mistake. I'm still kind of puzzled as to why she's a thing, though - has any freshmen ever gotten this kind of attention?

But it is amazing the way she's driven Republicans visibly wacky. I think only Hillary and Obama got this amount of attention from them.
Yeah - but that's the important distinction. The media loves to follow what the Republicans are screaming about. She also somehow causes 'serious people' into weird self-owns like this one.


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Post by Kraken » Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:58 pm

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I'm still kind of puzzled as to why she's a thing, though - has any freshmen ever gotten this kind of attention?
She is the youngest woman ever elected to Congress. She is not a millionaire and is not beholden to the usual special interests. She is an attractive, smart, articulate person of color who speaks her mind. She's an avowed democratic socialist. The media love her. She scares the bejezus out of the traditional power brokers, and especially the old white men of the GOP. She embodies the future that they are determined to prevent.

She sometimes seems to speak first and think later, but she's new at this. I hope she has a long, distinguished career ahead of her.

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Post by El Guapo » Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:14 pm

Kraken wrote:
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Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:16 pm
I'm still kind of puzzled as to why she's a thing, though - has any freshmen ever gotten this kind of attention?
She is the youngest woman ever elected to Congress. She is not a millionaire and is not beholden to the usual special interests. She is an attractive, smart, articulate person of color who speaks her mind. She's an avowed democratic socialist. The media love her. She scares the bejezus out of the traditional power brokers, and especially the old white men of the GOP. She embodies the future that they are determined to prevent.

She sometimes seems to speak first and think later, but she's new at this. I hope she has a long, distinguished career ahead of her.
Honestly, I think it's because the Republicans want to brand Democrats as the party of minority coastal millenial urbanites, in contrast with "real 'muricans" from the heartland, and they think that AOC is the perfect face to attach to that branding.

I think that they also think that her politics (such as high upper income tax rates) are more unpopular than they probably are.

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Post by Holman » Sun Jan 13, 2019 4:49 pm

Yeah. AOC has realized three ideals at once:

To the Right, she embodies the "Every Dem is a Radical Leftist!!" fantasy they've been pushing forever, and she does it while having the audacity to be nonwhite.

To the Dems, she's a new-media-savvy firebrand unafraid of owning (and thus message-testing) strong positions, and she does it while appealing like crazy to young voters.

To the mainstream media, she keeps alive the drama of a Left vs. Liberal party split, and she does it while being attractive and provocative and thus excellent for ratings.
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pr0ner wrote:
Octavious wrote:
Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:07 pm
Fox News is obsessed with her for some reason. I guess a liberal female latino is just too much for them to handle. Image
Daily Caller is obsessed with her, too, going so far as to publish stories dealing with fake nude pictures of her.
Daily Caller founded by tucker Carlson, so no surprise there.
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Post by Enough » Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:25 pm

Noted libertarian and anti-socialized medicine crusader Rand Paul is traveling for Canada for getting help for his injuries sustained from the attack by his neighbor. I truly wish him well, but I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall when his doctor told him the best place to go for what he needs is a socialized medicine system he has continually criticized.
Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul, one of the fiercest political critics of socialized medicine, will travel to Canada later this month to get hernia surgery.

Paul, an ophthalmologist, said the operation is related to an injury in 2017 when his neighbor, Rene Boucher, attacked him while Paul was mowing his lawn. The incident left Kentucky's junior senator with six broken ribs and a bruised lung.

He is scheduled to have the outpatient operation at the Shouldice Hernia Hospital in Thornhill, Ontario during the week of Jan. 21, according to documents from Paul's civil lawsuit against Boucher filed in Warren Circuit Court.

The procedure is estimated to cost anywhere from $5,000 to $8,000, according to court documents. MDsave.com lists a hernia repair costing between $4,000 and $8,000.

Shouldice Hernia Hospital markets itself as "the global leader in non-mesh hernia repair," according to the clinic's website.

Paul often argues for private market solutions to American's health care woes.

In Canada, medical care is publicly funded and universally provided through the country's Provincial Ministry of Health, and everyone receives the same level of care.
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Post by Enough » Mon Jan 14, 2019 4:07 pm

Enough wrote:
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I am not lock step in agreement with AOC, but it sure is nice to have some humor and youth as an anecdote to the typical geriatric fare we get in our politicians. She's owning the label liberal and determined to make it cool.
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is freaking out the news media. And it’s working for her.
“It’s a profoundly generational phenomenon, and, clearly, it’s scary,” he said. Perlstein sees Ocasio-Cortez as part of a generation that doesn’t bear the lingering psychic wounds of a Democratic Party stunned into wimpiness by the Reagan era and its aftermath.
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Post by Paingod » Mon Jan 14, 2019 4:31 pm

Enough wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 4:07 pm
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is freaking out the news media. And it’s working for her.
“It’s a profoundly generational phenomenon, and, clearly, it’s scary,” he said. Perlstein sees Ocasio-Cortez as part of a generation that doesn’t bear the lingering psychic wounds of a Democratic Party stunned into wimpiness by the Reagan era and its aftermath.
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Post by Zaxxon » Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:29 pm

From Mr. Fed: "The GOP kicking Steve King out of his committee assignments for being a huge racist is like Ronald McDonald making someone sit on the patio for eating too many fries."

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Post by Skinypupy » Tue Jan 15, 2019 10:13 am

People who don't have a prior history of being racist shitbags might get the benefit of the doubt on this one. Steve King, not so much.
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Re: Political Randomness

Post by LawBeefaroni » Tue Jan 15, 2019 12:12 pm

Yeah, this is just he final pound of crap that broke the camel's back. And it's actually damning that it took this long. That's one strong camel.
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Re: Political Randomness

Post by El Guapo » Tue Jan 15, 2019 12:17 pm

Skinypupy wrote:
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People who don't have a prior history of being racist shitbags might get the benefit of the doubt on this one. Steve King, not so much.
Yeah, also he lied about what he had said to the Weekly Standard back in 2018, only for the Weekly Standard to produce audio from the interview confirming their account of what he said. So, he's not super credible on the subject of what he said/meant in interviews.

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Re: Political Randomness

Post by NickAragua » Tue Jan 15, 2019 12:19 pm

"Well, what I *meant* to say was that I consider people with a skin color different than mine to be inferior and subhuman."

"Uh, I mean, immigration."

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Re: Political Randomness

Post by GreenGoo » Tue Jan 15, 2019 12:53 pm

NickAragua wrote:
Tue Jan 15, 2019 12:19 pm
"Well, what I *meant* to say was that I consider people with a skin color different than mine to be inferior and subhuman."

"Uh, I mean, immigration."
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