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stessier wrote:I'm curious who he is arguing against. Is there a group out there supporting unequal pay?

Alefroth wrote:

stessier wrote:I'm curious who he is arguing against. Is there a group out there supporting unequal pay?

Employers.

GreenGoo wrote:Cue Nox to explain to us it's not gender that is causing the gap, but the behaviour that genders typically engage in that is the problem. I.e. less seniority/experience due to maternity leave and such.

It's a compelling argument, but I'm not sold on it, yet.

ImLawBoy wrote:I like hearing that from the Pope. Maybe he should expand that whole women's rights thing into the priesthood, though . . . .

(Am I going to get excommunicated for that?)

Moliere wrote:Gay sex is compared to sticking a bagel in your ear at Catholic conference.

Rather, Catholics are bringing the “good news” of the gospel and Jesus Christ, he said. He compared leading gays out of same-sex relations to Moses leading people out of slavery in Egypt.

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“This is the question which is asked by junior-high kids: Why does God hate gays?” Riccardo said. Riccardo said he responds in terms that can relate to younger folks without being too explicit.

“Here’s the image that I use,” Riccardo said. He said he tells the students, what if ‘I just rip open a bagel, I take it, and I cram it in my ear. What would you say?’

He said, the kids respond: “That doesn’t go there.”

“I say, ‘Exactly.’ ”

“That will ruin your ear canal,” Riccardo said.

At the conference, a popular Catholic priest in metro Detroit, the Rev. John Riccardo of Our Lady of Good Counsel Parish in Plymouth, told about how a family member of his wrestles with how to deal with a gay child.

Smoove_B wrote:Ugh.

At the conference, a popular Catholic priest in metro Detroit, the Rev. John Riccardo of Our Lady of Good Counsel Parish in Plymouth, told about how a family member of his wrestles with how to deal with a gay child.

I hope he's telling them to seek advice from someone that actually cares. I cannot ever imagine uttering the phrase, "Help me deal with my gay child."

Riccardo said the family member allows the gay partner of her child into her home and doesn’t exclude her. Riccardo said his family member has said: “If this person doesn’t come in my house, they may never hear the gospel. ... I want them to encounter Jesus.”
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At the same time, his family member “is very firm and clear with her child,” Riccardo said. She said she tells her child “when you are here, you will not sleep together (with your gay partner) ... because I think that’s harmful and here are the reasons why.”

Moliere wrote:Pope Francis Meets Sex-Abuse Victims, Expresses ‘Solidarity’ for Their Suffering

while also allowing this:

U.S. priests accused of sex abuse get second chance in South America

Rip wrote:

Moliere wrote:Pope Francis Meets Sex-Abuse Victims, Expresses ‘Solidarity’ for Their Suffering

while also allowing this:

U.S. priests accused of sex abuse get second chance in South America

If that isn't a politician I don't know what is.

GreenGoo wrote:Why hasn't your country put them in jail?

GreenGoo wrote:

Rip wrote:

Moliere wrote:Pope Francis Meets Sex-Abuse Victims, Expresses ‘Solidarity’ for Their Suffering

while also allowing this:

U.S. priests accused of sex abuse get second chance in South America

If that isn't a politician I don't know what is.

Why hasn't your country put them in jail?

Another priest we tracked down, Father Federico Fernandez Baeza, was indicted by a grand jury in 1987 on two second-degree felony charges of indecency with a child. A family in San Antonio, Texas accused Fernandez in a civil lawsuit of ritually raping two brothers over a two-year period. Prosecutors dropped the criminal case after the diocese of San Antonio reportedly paid the family more than $1 million.

The Vatican on Saturday fired a monsignor who came out as gay on the eve of a big meeting of the world's bishops to discuss church outreach to gays, divorcees and more traditional Catholic families.

Moliere wrote:Good job Frank, way to show you're different than the previous popes.

Vatican fires gay priest from his post on eve of synod

The Vatican on Saturday fired a monsignor who came out as gay on the eve of a big meeting of the world's bishops to discuss church outreach to gays, divorcees and more traditional Catholic families.

Moliere wrote:Good job Frank, way to show you're different than the previous popes.

Vatican fires gay priest from his post on eve of synod

The Vatican on Saturday fired a monsignor who came out as gay on the eve of a big meeting of the world's bishops to discuss church outreach to gays, divorcees and more traditional Catholic families.

GreenGoo wrote:In don't understand. The Catholic church has not changed its stance on homosexuality, and it is still considered a sin.

What did you expect would happen?

GreenGoo wrote:In don't understand. The Catholic church has not changed its stance on homosexuality, and it is still considered a sin.

What did you expect would happen?

Max Peck wrote:

Moliere wrote:Good job Frank, way to show you're different than the previous popes.

Vatican fires gay priest from his post on eve of synod

The Vatican on Saturday fired a monsignor who came out as gay on the eve of a big meeting of the world's bishops to discuss church outreach to gays, divorcees and more traditional Catholic families.

From what I've read, he's not just gay, he's in a relationship (i.e. not remaining celibate). If he had disclosed that he was in a such a relationship with a woman, would he have remained in his position? Should he have immunity from the repercussions of violating his vows just because he's gay?

Max Peck wrote:

Moliere wrote:Good job Frank, way to show you're different than the previous popes.

Vatican fires gay priest from his post on eve of synod

The Vatican on Saturday fired a monsignor who came out as gay on the eve of a big meeting of the world's bishops to discuss church outreach to gays, divorcees and more traditional Catholic families.

From what I've read, he's not just gay, he's in a relationship (i.e. not remaining celibate). If he had disclosed that he was in a such a relationship with a woman, would he have remained in his position? Should he have immunity from the repercussions of violating his vows just because he's gay?

Unagi wrote:

Max Peck wrote:

Moliere wrote:Good job Frank, way to show you're different than the previous popes.

Vatican fires gay priest from his post on eve of synod

The Vatican on Saturday fired a monsignor who came out as gay on the eve of a big meeting of the world's bishops to discuss church outreach to gays, divorcees and more traditional Catholic families.

From what I've read, he's not just gay, he's in a relationship (i.e. not remaining celibate). If he had disclosed that he was in a such a relationship with a woman, would he have remained in his position? Should he have immunity from the repercussions of violating his vows just because he's gay?

Well, if only this other male was a child, then we would just see the priest moved to a new parish, right? Not lose his job.

Rip wrote:I would think admitting you failed to dismiss them because they criminally abused minors while hiding behind the cloth would be even worse.

On Friday, Pope Francis delivered his own “I have a dream” address, in this case dedicated to Europe, calling the continent to undergo a “memory transfusion” to avoid the mistakes of the past and to pursue a future based on economic justice, openness to newcomers, respect for life in all its stages, and dialogue with everyone.

“I dream of a Europe that is young, still capable of being a mother: a mother who has life because she respects life and offers hope for life,” Francis said on Friday, as he was accepting the prestigious Charlemagne Prize, given yearly to personalities or institutions for their efforts towards European unity.

Pope Francis compared media outlets that spread disinformation and cover scandals to smear politicians to people who become aroused by excrement.

In an interview with the Belgian Catholic weekly "Tertio," Francis said scandal-mongering media outlets risk falling prey to coprophilia, or arousal from excrement, and the consumers risk coprophagia, or eating excrement.

"I think the media have to be very clear, very transparent, and not fall into — no offense intended — the sickness of coprophilia, that is, always wanting to cover scandals, covering nasty things, even if they are true," he said, according to Reuters.

"And since people have a tendency towards the sickness of coprophagia, a lot of damage can be done."

The pope also warned that spreading disinformation is "probably the greatest damage that the media can do" because "it directs opinion in only one direction and omits the other part of the truth."

The showdown between the Vatican and the Knights of Malta has come to a brusque end, with the leader of the historic sovereign order resigning at the apparent request of Pope Francis.

In a statement Wednesday, the Vatican said the pontiff would also be taking over control of the order with the appointment of a new papal delegate in the coming days.
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The resignation caps an unusually tense month for the prestigious Catholic lay order, which had been openly resisting a Vatican investigation into Festing's firing of one of their top officials. At times it seemed that one of Catholicism's most storied organizations was challenging the authority and power of the pope.

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