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Is that Trump and undoctored? That's the first picture I've seen where it looks like the presidency is beginning to take its toll. /Wonders if that is a particularly horrid candid they had to find or if self preservation is finally beginning to stress and worry his psychotic ass while normally it's the stress of you know, being the highest executive in the land that does it.

He looks more pasty and less orange. Is there some reason he can't his spray-tan in California? No Trump-owned properties to service him?

State air quality laws.

[Defiant]

[Unagi]

if I had to guess, I'd say that picture was taken in London.

[GreenGoo]

if I had to guess, I'd say that picture was taken in London.

Ditto.

So weird. What do the English look like? Like that picture, apparently. At least in my mind.

[Holman]

Well, it *is* Nigel Farage there on the right.

[GreenGoo]

Well, it *is* Nigel Farage there on the right.

Sure, but I'd be lucky to recognize the queen at this point. I barely know who Farage is. That they *are* English doesn't change the fact that I'm amazed that the English have a look that I recognize.

[Unagi]

tells:
* Red Hat that isn't MAGA.
* Blue Hat (!?) , also logo free.
* The distinctive day-glow yellow-green of their police on the side of the picture.
* The building in the background also looked unlikely in the states.
* something something British teeth...


I also have no real clue who Nigel Farage is (sounded familiar, looked it up, and is that really him? teeth comparison fails)


In any case, for an image that should be making fun of white men in America, I'd like to feel like the people were American.
It's a great picture for white-rage-UK.

[GreenGoo]

In any case, for an image that should be making fun of white men in America, I'd like to feel like the people were American.
It's a great picture for white-rage-UK.

This is my main problem with the tweet. Angry white men, no context, comedic caption.

They could be angry and on the street because their steel factory just shut down, because their pub ran out of beer, because the stampeders won the Grey Cup, because their tattoo artist isn't very good.

It could literally be anything, including a bunch of white supremacists angry that other races exist. Without following up, I have no idea what the picture and caption are about. And that's fine, I don't always need to be spoon fed my clever one liners, but in this case I'm just like "black friday/white friday. Ok, that's sort of funny" and I feel less motivation to find out what's going on than I do about writing about the fact that I don't know what's going on.

[Jaymann]

They are angry about Brexit - they want back in!

[Holman]

Well, it *is* Nigel Farage there on the right.

Sure, but I'd be lucky to recognize the queen at this point. I barely know who Farage is. That they *are* English doesn't change the fact that I'm amazed that the English have a look that I recognize.

Sorry to mislead--I don't think that's really Farage, just someone who looks like him.

But if I had to guess, I'd imagine that the bloke in the pic says out loud what Farage only says in private.

[hepcat]

To me, every British citizen screaming in a photo looks oddly like Vinnie Jones.

[LawBeefaroni]

if I had to guess, I'd say that picture was taken in London.

Ditto.

So weird. What do the English look like? Like that picture, apparently. At least in my mind.

The fact that they're all dressed like casuals (and look old enough to be from some old firm or other) is what did it for me. I mean those outfits are right out of some firm mocumentary.

[Isgrimnur]

Spoiler:

A reminder that #DFLA stands for 'Democratic Football Lads Alliance'. Yes, that is actually real. A band of bald, fat, angry racists who have dreams of restoring Britain to some sort of right wing malnourished Utopia where the gene pool has absolutely fucking no chance.

[GreenGoo]

What does #lesswenotforget mean?

"something" lest we forget = "something " so we don't forget or "something" to prevent us from forgetting or "something" in case we forget

"something" less we not forget = "something" so we forget? Or "something" to prevent us from remembering or "something" in case we don't forget?

Is this one of those "flammable" vs "inflammable" situations?

Seriously, help me out here.

[Jaymann]

It's al-u-minium town, Jake.

[Isgrimnur]

It's a corruption of lest we forget.

[GreenGoo]

It's a corruption of lest we forget.

Right.

The corruption being "lesswenotforget". Doesn't the "not" in there make the phrase mean the opposite of the original?

[Isgrimnur]

One would assume, but the source is a headspace I'm not too keen to investigate in any depth.

[GreenGoo]

One would assume, but the source is a headspace I'm not too keen to investigate in any depth.

No sweat.

It just jumped off the page and was a head scratcher. The twitter account holder may have taken too many blows to the head in any case. He's like a slightly more coherent Tyson.

[Unagi]

It's a corruption of lest we forget.

Right.

The corruption being "lesswenotforget". Doesn't the "not" in there make the phrase mean the opposite of the original?

I could care less.

You are correct. The "not" reverses the origianl meaning, but they didn't mean to.

[GreenGoo]

You are correct. The "not" reverses the origianl meaning, but they didn't mean to.

See, I'm not sure, because the original "less we forget" can be read as "so we do NOT forget" or "to prevent forgetting", so it's almost like the original should contain the NOT as well.

Anyway, it doesn't matter. I just like to be able to understand what someone or something is saying, and I can't be sure what they are saying, although I can certainly guess with a reasonable chance of success, I suppose.

[Unagi]

You are correct. The "not" reverses the origianl meaning, but they didn't mean to.

See, I'm not sure, because the original "less we forget" can be read as "so we do NOT forget" or "to prevent forgetting", so it's almost like the original should contain the NOT as well.

Anyway, it doesn't matter. I just like to be able to understand what someone or something is saying, and I can't be sure what they are saying, although I can certainly guess with a reasonable chance of success, I suppose.

"Less we forget" == "or else we would forget"


"We keep images of Jesus on the Cross, less we forget his suffering for us..."

When one says "Less we not forget" they are saying it's "so that we don't"

But it's not that... it's "or else we would"

[GreenGoo]

"Less we forget" == "or else we would forget"

Sure, and you would think that, but I read a little and the meaning is not as clear as you suggest. It has multiple interpretations, including the ones I put up. Yours is valid too. They all convey the same idea, which is "so we don't forget".

Your "would" is appropriate, but so is removing it like so "or else we forget" which has the same meaning as "so we don't forget" or "in order to prevent us from forgetting". "would" in your example implies that we are guaranteed to forget unless the action is taken. The expression can also be read as "do this otherwise we might forget". "would" implies it will absolutely happen vs "might" suggests that the possibility of forgetting exists, but isn't guaranteed.

Even more fucked up is that the action taken is "remembering", so the expression is something like "remember lest we forget" or "pay respects lest we forget" or "let's make sure we take the action of remembering otherwise we might forget".

How's that for pedantic, Jaymann?

Damn straight.

edit: My edits were not to change from "less" to "lest". I got it right in this post for some reason.

[LawBeefaroni]

You are correct. The "not" reverses the origianl meaning, but they didn't mean to.

See, I'm not sure, because the original "less we forget" can be read as "so we do NOT forget" or "to prevent forgetting", so it's almost like the original should contain the NOT as well.

Anyway, it doesn't matter. I just like to be able to understand what someone or something is saying, and I can't be sure what they are saying, although I can certainly guess with a reasonable chance of success, I suppose.

"Less we forget" == "or else we would forget"


"We keep images of Jesus on the Cross, less we forget his suffering for us..."

When one says "Less we not forget" they are saying it's "so that we don't"

But it's not that... it's "or else we would"

The original is "lest we forget." Not "less we forget."

"Less we forget" isn't a thing other than a malapropism.

[GreenGoo]

The original is "lest we forget." Not "less we forget."

"Less we forget" isn't a thing other than a malapropism.

Good point. I made that mistake. It's possible that Unagi was just rolling with it.

As you said, "less" is not a form of "lest" or vice versa. They are not related in any form that I could find.

[Unagi]

It's possible that Unagi was just rolling with it.

Damn straight. That's how I roll. with it.

[GreenGoo]

I envy you and your rolling abilities.

This should probably be in the marijuana legal thread.

[LawBeefaroni]

It's possible that Unagi was just rolling with it.

Damn straight. That's how I roll. with it.

Aww, my personal feeling is that you're much better when you sashimi.

[Jaymann]

"Less we forget" == "or else we would forget"

How's that for pedantic, Jaymann?

Technically, the less we not forget, the more we remember.

[Isgrimnur]

It's possible that Unagi was just rolling with it.

Damn straight. That's how I roll. with it.

Aww, my personal feeling is that you're much better when you sashimi.

I sushi'd once, but that was for the draft board.

[GreenGoo]

Technically, the less we not forget, the more we remember.

Perhaps, but Lawbeef is right. Less is not the root of Lest. They are unrelated words.

[Unagi]

Technically, the less we not forget, the more we remember.

Perhaps, but

no, I don't think that is technically correct at all. If we exchange the word "remember" for the "not forget", then that phrase is just "the less we remember"

Lawbeef is right. Less is not the root of Lest. They are unrelated words.

Yep, the phrase is certainly 'lest', but Mick up there is the one who first seed our heads with #lesswenotforget. (It wasn't you... but we failed to correct Mick, cause we were focused on the 'not forget')

[Alefroth]

It's possible that Unagi was just rolling with it.

Damn straight. That's how I roll. with it.

Lest you gather moss.

[Trent Steel]

One picture on this page.

SAD!

[hitbyambulance]

lest just forget this doofussy exchange ever took place

[GreenGoo]

One picture on this page.

SAD!

It's a perfect picture of pedantry.

[Fretmute]

Technically, the less we not forget, the more we remember.

Perhaps, but Lawbeef is right. Less is not the root of Lest. They are unrelated words.

I’ve read at least a dozen books this year in which the author misuses nonplussed, and those guys are supposed to know what they’re doing. People are bad at words.

[GreenGoo]

Yeah, it's pretty much time to give up on words having meanings.

Just accept that a word means whatever random shit the user thinks it means.

Which should make communication a breeze, amirite? After all it's those being pedantic about word meanings that are the real problem.

[Fretmute]

Hey man, I sneer when someone mispronounces forte. I’m on your side here.

[Carpet_pissr]

Dude on the right looks like the offspring from Steve Buscemi and Norm MacDonald. If they had an old man baby, that is.