Pictures and Videos for R&P

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Thu Jan 21, 2021 1:18 pm

I had the info yesterday. Not posted until prompted.

Spoiler:

Blackhawk · Post by **Blackhawk** » Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:09 pm

noxiousdog wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 1:43 am
hepcat wrote:I would need to see more than just a few seconds of selected outrage here and there. I drove my poor father nuts as a teenager and he blew up a few times, but I never thought he was being abusive. But someone getting a highlights reel without any context might.
That's really my point.

And I'll acknowledge that it's a fair point. But the original statement ("I'm not bothered by it at all.") goes too far. It's enough to be very bothered. Enough to convict and condemn? No. But more than enough to be bothered, and more than enough to trigger some attempt to make sure that it's an exception and not the norm. Too bad that she's in the 'rich and powerful' crowd and possibly immune to consequences.

noxiousdog · Post by **noxiousdog** » Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:45 pm

Blackhawk wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:09 pm
noxiousdog wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 1:43 am
hepcat wrote:I would need to see more than just a few seconds of selected outrage here and there. I drove my poor father nuts as a teenager and he blew up a few times, but I never thought he was being abusive. But someone getting a highlights reel without any context might.
That's really my point.
And I'll acknowledge that it's a fair point. But the original statement ("I'm not bothered by it at all.") goes too far. It's enough to be very bothered. Enough to convict and condemn? No. But more than enough to be bothered, and more than enough to trigger some attempt to make sure that it's an exception and not the norm. Too bad that she's in the 'rich and powerful' crowd and possibly immune to consequences.

I'd be shocked if it was whether she's "rich and powerful.' CPS just doesn't have the manpower to deal with it. I personally know a teenager whose step dad was waving a gun and threatening to kill her. (2018) The authorities did nothing. My wife was beaten black and blue once and severely bruised another time. The authorities did nothing. (30 years ago).

Verbal abuse just isn't going to draw consequences.

And it is not fair to characterize my statement without including the modifier. It's amazing what context will do to a statement or action.

Blackhawk · Post by **Blackhawk** » Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:55 pm

Ok... "If that's the worst of her abuse, I'm not bothered by it at all. " It doesn't really change the meaning or relevance of my response. How bad does abuse need to be before you're bothered by it?

noxiousdog · Post by **noxiousdog** » Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:50 pm

Blackhawk wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:55 pm Ok... "If that's the worst of her abuse, I'm not bothered by it at all. " It doesn't really change the meaning or relevance of my response. How bad does abuse need to be before you're bothered by it?

That's an impossible question to answer as there are too many variables. I'm also not all that interested in a semantic argument over the word "bother."

I assume since you're so bothered by it, you called CPS?

Blackhawk · Post by **Blackhawk** » Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:54 pm

noxiousdog · Post by **noxiousdog** » Thu Jan 21, 2021 4:08 pm

Blackhawk wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:54 pm

Indeed.

Paingod · Post by **Paingod** » Thu Jan 21, 2021 4:12 pm

For all the pissing in the sand, it should be noted that protective services have been involved with this family and nothing has come of it yet. No way to know how many people report it when she posts videos.

TheMix · Post by **TheMix** » Thu Jan 21, 2021 4:19 pm

Maybe I'm wrong, but I feel like ND thinks he wrote "I'm not overly bothered by it". Which would probably have elicited some shrugs and maybe a couple of head shakes.

I don't think it's the "I'm not bothered by it" that is causing the problems. It's the "at all". I would be bothered at least a little if I was in the room and someone said any one of those things to their child. Likely not enough to do anything about it (at least in absence of a pattern). But I'd feel uncomfortable. It would at least register.

noxiousdog · Post by **noxiousdog** » Thu Jan 21, 2021 4:23 pm

noxiousdog wrote:
hepcat wrote: I would need to see more than just a few seconds of selected outrage here and there. I drove my poor father nuts as a teenager and he blew up a few times, but I never thought he was being abusive. But someone getting a highlights reel without any context might.
That's really my point.

And to be fair, allegedly there's a lot more and it's clearly with her character, so it's really more likely she's an abusive, terrible parent.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Thu Jan 21, 2021 4:25 pm

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Thu Jan 21, 2021 6:27 pm

I wish it had been safe for Jimmy Carter to attend.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Thu Jan 21, 2021 8:00 pm

Alefroth · Post by **Alefroth** » Thu Jan 21, 2021 8:37 pm

Holman wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 6:27 pm I wish it had been safe for Jimmy Carter to attend.

As it was, only two term presidents were in attendance.

LawBeefaroni · Post by **LawBeefaroni** » Thu Jan 21, 2021 8:42 pm

Random but my wife just told me that when I was born, there were no living former presidents.

The Meal · Post by **The Meal** » Thu Jan 21, 2021 9:23 pm

Here is the whole list of presidents who served when there were no living ex-presidents:

John Adams (1799-1801), after George Washington died in 1799.
Ulysses S. Grant (1875-77), after Franklin Pierce died in 1869, Millard Fillmore died in 1874 and Andrew Johnson died in 1875.
Theodore Roosevelt (1908-09), after Grover Cleveland died in 1908.
Herbert Hoover (1933), after Calvin Coolidge died on Jan. 5, 1933, until Hoover left office on March 4, the last president to do so.
Richard Nixon (1973-74), after Dwight Eisenhower died in 1969, Harry Truman died in 1972 and Lyndon Johnson died in 1973. Nixon had no ex-presidents to turn to for advice during the Watergate scandal.

What *was* the Hoover administration like?

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Thu Jan 21, 2021 9:48 pm

LawBeefaroni wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 8:42 pm Random but my wife just told me that when I was born, there were no living former presidents.

I was born in December 1968 (LBJ's lame-duck period before Nixon's inauguration), when Eisenhower and Truman were still alive.

I assume you were born in 1973 or 1974? Truman died December 1972 and Nixon resigned in August 1974.

I've lived with Truman, Eisenhower, Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush I, Clinton, Bush II, Obama, Trump, and Biden.

I recently saw someone point out that the American Revolution was only five presidential lifetimes ago: Biden back to FDR to Arthur to Jackson to Washington.

LawBeefaroni · Post by **LawBeefaroni** » Thu Jan 21, 2021 10:22 pm

The Meal wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 9:23 pm
What *was* the Hoover administration like?

Lots of pots, not enough chickens. Onions on our belts.

Jaymann · Post by **Jaymann** » Thu Jan 21, 2021 10:59 pm

LawBeefaroni wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 10:22 pm
The Meal wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 9:23 pm
What *was* the Hoover administration like?
Lots of pots, not enough chickens. Onions on our belts.

And yellow ones at that.

Kraken · Post by **Kraken** » Thu Jan 21, 2021 11:24 pm

Eisenhower was in office when I was born.

Blackhawk · Post by **Blackhawk** » Fri Jan 22, 2021 9:29 am

Interesting. As a '73er, that applies to me as well.

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Fri Jan 22, 2021 9:40 am

Blackhawk wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 9:29 am Interesting. As a '73er, that applies to me as well.

Thirded.

Jaymann · Post by **Jaymann** » Fri Jan 22, 2021 11:40 am

I can't stop watching this:

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Fri Jan 22, 2021 11:46 am

hehehe

Paingod · Post by **Paingod** » Fri Jan 22, 2021 1:02 pm

Man, we don't sound smart at all when you hear folks practicing how to sound like us.

Gunna. GhuNNA. GUNna. Coawl my lawyur.

stimpy · Post by **stimpy** » Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:25 pm

Oh, Chucky......what a dirty, dirty mind you have......

Defiant · Post by **Defiant** » Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:27 pm

To be fair, the insurrection probably caused some erections in some of the extremists.

Hrdina · Post by **Hrdina** » Fri Jan 22, 2021 11:43 pm

Paingod wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 1:02 pm Man, we don't sound smart at all when you hear folks practicing how to sound like us.

In other words, spot-on impression here.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Sat Jan 23, 2021 5:30 pm

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Sat Jan 23, 2021 8:04 pm

stimpy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:25 pm

Oh, Chucky......what a dirty, dirty mind you have......

Oh Trumpy, you need to lay off the methamphetamines.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Sat Jan 23, 2021 8:13 pm

Maybe he sniffs glue.

Dry throat does not make you slur. If you believe that you must be republican

Carpet_pissr · Post by **Carpet_pissr** » Sun Jan 24, 2021 1:14 am

Daehawk wrote:Maybe he sniffs glue.

Dry throat does not make you slur. If you believe that you must be republican

Neither does speed AFAIK. Stroke? He actually sounds a bit like he did when he had Covid.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:06 am

Sounded like a loose denture but as rich as he supposedly is you'd think he had implants.

Jaymann · Post by **Jaymann** » Mon Jan 25, 2021 2:41 pm

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Mon Jan 25, 2021 7:31 pm

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Tue Jan 26, 2021 4:34 pm

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Fri Jan 29, 2021 6:26 pm

Max Peck · Post by **Max Peck** » Fri Jan 29, 2021 9:36 pm

I'm not convinced it was the wrong clip.

xenocide · Post by **xenocide** » Sat Jan 30, 2021 2:59 pm

Jaymann · Post by **Jaymann** » Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:18 am

HEY KID, I'LL PAY YOU TEN BUCKS TO BE MY LAWYER.