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Re: Pictures and Videos for R&P

Post by Carpet_pissr » Tue Dec 18, 2018 12:08 am

Yeah, that second one looks pretty suspicious as a potential fake to me. I hope it's a fake, at least.

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Post by Max Peck » Tue Dec 18, 2018 12:59 am

Carpet_pissr wrote:
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Yeah, that second one looks pretty suspicious as a potential fake to me. I hope it's a fake, at least.
It is a fake. It appears to be based on this photo from the 2016 GOP national convention, which was apparently used as the basis for a photoshop competition.

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Post by Paingod » Tue Dec 18, 2018 8:35 am

The original isn't a far cry from the photoshop.... which is worse, in a way.
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Does he know how to kiss? Its like his drinking water ...he doesn't seem to get it. its like when someone is young and practicing.
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Post by hepcat » Tue Dec 18, 2018 1:46 pm

I'll never understand the need to pass off fakes when it comes to Trump. For Christ's sake, there's a freakin' ton of actual photos capturing how awful he is.
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Post by Max Peck » Tue Dec 18, 2018 5:17 pm

Perhaps when the judge thinks you might have committed a little light treason it would be more helpful if your cheer squad didn't look quite so... Russian.

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Post by Max Peck » Thu Dec 20, 2018 8:13 pm

Since American foreign policy and military strategy is going full-Trump from here on out, this seems apropos...

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A vacation from white people in Costa Rica.
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Moliere wrote:
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A vacation from white people in Costa Rica.
Lol.....awesome.
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Post by stessier » Tue Dec 25, 2018 7:06 pm

stimpy wrote:
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Lol.....awesome.
I thought it was a pretty interesting piece, but don't understand your response.
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Never understood how those that feel segregated think the way to fix it is to segregate themselves.
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Post by Unagi » Tue Dec 25, 2018 9:13 pm

I tend to agree.
I'm 'tolerant' (don't really feel compelled to comment normally) because I'm not black and I know they all go through a ton of shit I don't need to deal with... Still, I can't help but feel they are technically being racist themselves.
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Post by Daehawk » Tue Dec 25, 2018 10:08 pm

Saw a piece on tv early this year that said Jewish and Asian people in the 20th century did their best to fit in and meld with America but many blacks refused to try and seemed to try to separate themselves yet then argue that they are separated.

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Post by Moliere » Tue Dec 25, 2018 11:39 pm

Saying white people should not be allowed passports and should just stay in the United States is, um, stupid. It is impossible to objectively define "white" along with a whole lot of other problems with her statements.
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They can't even travel to Sweden?!?
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Post by AWS260 » Wed Dec 26, 2018 2:57 am

Daehawk wrote:
Tue Dec 25, 2018 10:08 pm
Saw a piece on tv early this year that said Jewish and Asian people in the 20th century did their best to fit in and meld with America but many blacks refused to try and seemed to try to separate themselves yet then argue that they are separated.
I don't even know where to begin...

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Saw a piece on tv early this year that said Jewish and Asian people in the 20th century did their best to fit in and meld with America but many blacks refused to try and seemed to try to separate themselves yet then argue that they are separated.

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Post by GreenGoo » Wed Dec 26, 2018 10:45 am

I didn't watch it and have no idea what the context is. For things like this I typically replace "white" with "black" to see if it scans. This one was so racist when I did it that I decided it wasn't worth watching.

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Post by Holman » Wed Dec 26, 2018 6:59 pm

Judging from social media, I'd say reactions to this piece are a useful study in the false equivalence of Whataboutism.

The whole tenor of the story is that blacks might want to escape from white America because they don't feel safe here. To call this out as "reverse racism" requires you to believe that whites have been as damaged and diminished by black racism as blacks have been damaged and diminished by white racism.

Yeah. That's it. Next question?
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Post by GreenGoo » Wed Dec 26, 2018 8:27 pm

Holman wrote:
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Judging from social media, I'd say reactions to this piece are a useful study in the false equivalence of Whataboutism.

The whole tenor of the story is that blacks might want to escape from white America because they don't feel safe here. To call this out as "reverse racism" requires you to believe that whites have been as damaged and diminished by black racism as blacks have been damaged and diminished by white racism.

Yeah. That's it. Next question?
That doesn't excuse it any more than whites want to go on vacation without blacks because black neighborhoods have the most crime. It's a racist sentiment because whites aren't the problem, and neither are blacks.

You can't say that because the majority of America are white and there is racism in America that majority of whites are racist. That's asinine.

If you want to go on vacation without racists, that's a fair sentiment. Wanting to go on vacation without whites because some whites are racist is not a fair sentiment. It's inherently racist irrespective of which race wants to go on vacation without which other race.

Wanting to go on vacation without asians because your grandfather died in WWII to the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbour is also racist.

How is this complicated? It's not magically not racism because systemic racism against your ancestors existed at some point in the past. Nor is it not racism because statistics exist.

If they want to talk about feeling unsafe in America that's a valid discussion. If nothing else, the rhetorical question in the tweet is inherently racist, and that's what I'm referring to.

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Post by Skinypupy » Wed Dec 26, 2018 8:36 pm

GreenGoo wrote:
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If you want to go on vacation without racists, that's a fair sentiment. Wanting to go on vacation without whites because some whites are racist is not a fair sentiment.
I'm curious how, exactly, you would recommend black Americans go about separating those two.

Other than the solution in the video, that is.
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Post by GreenGoo » Wed Dec 26, 2018 8:43 pm

The same way you go about going on vacation without criminals.

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Post by Skinypupy » Wed Dec 26, 2018 8:48 pm

GreenGoo wrote:
Wed Dec 26, 2018 8:43 pm
The same way you go about going on vacation without criminals.
There's a whole list of very proactive things I can do and behaviors I can exhibit to prevent myself from being a victim of crime when I travel.

Trying to think of something a black person can proactively do to prevent being a victim of racism, and the only thing that comes to mind is...spending their vacation entirely in the company of other black people. Which is exactly what the video described.
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Post by GreenGoo » Wed Dec 26, 2018 8:53 pm

I have no idea what the video contains. I'm addressing the question asked in the tweet.

You go on vacation without racists the same way you go on vacation without anyone else who thinks things you don't like. The same way you go on vacation without rude people. Or liberals. Or conservatives. Or people who don't believe the moon landing happened and want to endlessly tell you about it.

You don't get to exclude people based on the colour of their skin and somehow believe it's not racist, because it is. It's the very definition of racism. Literally. By definition.

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Post by GreenGoo » Wed Dec 26, 2018 11:05 pm

I see there is a school of thought that believes that racism can only exist in a hierarchical power structure, with racism only flowing downwards. It seems to exist mostly in the US. I think that's an insane definition because it means that a white racist in America is no longer racist if he moves to Jamaica, despite no changes in his outlook.

It's certainly possible that people are using different definitions of "racism" and without an agreement on the definition it is pointless to argue whether a certain act/view/person/whatever is racist or not.

If people can't agree on what constitutes racism, deciding what behaviour is acceptable based on differing definitions is likely impossible.

I'm not interested in debating the definition of racism, so I'll back out of this and let Americans hash it out amongst themselves.

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Post by stimpy » Wed Dec 26, 2018 11:13 pm

Implying that whites cant relate because they're all racist and privileged is ignorant. Oppression happens in many different ways and struggling to dealing with issues such as poverty, violence and drugs touches all of us in one way or another, regardless of color.
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Post by Alefroth » Thu Dec 27, 2018 2:47 am

I'm guilty of using the term racism as a catch-all.

I think this is a good summary of prejudice, bigotry, and racism.

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Hopefully Ol' Bonespurs got to enjoy the video before it was deleted.

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Post by Unagi » Tue Jan 01, 2019 10:41 am

OK, wtf? Smack Talk from the fucking US Strategic Command?
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I know it wasn't their intent, but it also almost sounds like they are willing to drop something much, much bigger, on NY

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Who let Trump write the Strategic command tweets?

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