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Isgrimnur wrote: Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:41 am
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pr0ner wrote: Mon Jan 22, 2018 4:24 pm
Isgrimnur wrote: Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:41 am
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That actually makes it funnier.
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I may need to change my location on my profile now.
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Blame Ontario Minimum Wage Hike for Canada Job Plunge. Or Not.
The biggest question from Friday’s disappointing Canadian employment report is how much can be traced to Ontario’s sharp minimum wage increase last month.

Canada’s economy lost 137,000 part-time jobs in January, a record monthly decline, led by a drop of 59,000 in Ontario, which was also a record. Ontario saw a net loss of 51,000 jobs.

The numbers are hardly good news for Premier Kathleen Wynne, who increased minimum wages by more than 20 percent on Jan. 1. Big grocers such as Loblaw Cos. and Empire Co. said the wage hike would cost them hundreds of millions of dollars and may accelerate a move to automation like self-serve checkouts. Some smaller restaurant owners also said they would change their menus and juggle shifts as a way of dealing with higher costs.

But economists, and even critics, are reluctant to jump to conclusions based on just one month of data, even though no one is dismissing the possibility that it had an impact.
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Still think minimum wages in the US are too low and should be much more to keep up with inflation. minimum wage workers should not have to work 2 and 3 jobs to make ends meet.
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Daehawk wrote: Fri Feb 09, 2018 4:02 pm Still think minimum wages in the US are too low and should be much more to keep up with inflation. minimum wage workers should not have to work 2 and 3 jobs to make ends meet.
If only there was some collective of minimum wage workers that could increase their bargaining power.
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Alefroth wrote: Fri Feb 09, 2018 4:27 pm
Daehawk wrote: Fri Feb 09, 2018 4:02 pm Still think minimum wages in the US are too low and should be much more to keep up with inflation. minimum wage workers should not have to work 2 and 3 jobs to make ends meet.
If only there was some collective of minimum wage workers that could increase their bargaining power.
There is. They are called robots.
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Jaymann wrote: Fri Feb 09, 2018 4:30 pm
Alefroth wrote: Fri Feb 09, 2018 4:27 pm
Daehawk wrote: Fri Feb 09, 2018 4:02 pm Still think minimum wages in the US are too low and should be much more to keep up with inflation. minimum wage workers should not have to work 2 and 3 jobs to make ends meet.
If only there was some collective of minimum wage workers that could increase their bargaining power.
There is. They are called robots.
I didn't know robots could unionize. I'm not convinced robots should get rights until sentience is proven. Before that they are just appliances. Appliances should be used where they increase profitability. That's a no brainer.

No one is saying we should stick with horse and buggies to keep wheelwrights employed. If Robots are the way to go for certain jobs, so be it. It's not like robots aren't already in use in other industries, doing the jobs that were once done by people who were much more highly paid than minimum wage. Why should we be afraid of robots taking minimum wage jobs if we've already done it for other, better paying jobs?
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The ROI has to be there. Some cases will benefit from economy of scale, say McD's buying 100,000 robotic burger flippers. Others won't get traction for a variety of reasons. Poor implementation by early adopters could poison the concept for awhile.
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Daehawk wrote: Fri Feb 09, 2018 4:02 pm Still think minimum wages in the US are too low and should be much more to keep up with inflation. minimum wage workers should not have to work 2 and 3 jobs to make ends meet.
If employers would hire workers for 40 hours a week instead of 20-30 then maybe some of the employees would only have to work one job.
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If they do that then theres more rules they have to follow not to mention insurance.
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‘Flippy,’ the fast food robot, temporarily decommissioned for being too slow
Inundated with customers eager to see the machine in action this week, Cali Group, which runs the fast food chain, quickly realized the robot couldn’t keep up with the demand. They decided instead to retrain the restaurant staff to work more efficiently alongside Flippy, according to USA Today.

Temporarily decommissioned, patrons encountered a sign Thursday noting that Flippy would be “cooking soon,” the paper reported.

“Mostly it’s the timing,” Anthony Lomelino, the Chief Technology Officer for Cali Group told the paper. “When you’re in the back, working with people, you talk to each other. With Flippy, you kind of need to work around his schedule. Choreographing the movements of what you do, when and how you do it.”
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Moliere wrote: Fri Mar 09, 2018 6:08 pm “With Flippy, you kind of need to work around his schedule. Choreographing the movements of what you do, when and how you do it.”
How is that different than working with the type of people we are producing nowadays? :doh:

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em2nought wrote: Sat Mar 10, 2018 12:57 am
Moliere wrote: Fri Mar 09, 2018 6:08 pm “With Flippy, you kind of need to work around his schedule. Choreographing the movements of what you do, when and how you do it.”
How is that different than working with the type of people we are producing nowadays? :doh:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uo0KjdDJr1c
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Hah ha! Stupid younger generation. they're so stupid.
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GreenGoo wrote: Sat Mar 10, 2018 5:05 am Hah ha! Stupid younger generation. they're so stupid.
I found this to be very interesting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXWNChoIluo
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GreenGoo wrote: Sat Mar 10, 2018 5:05 am Hah ha! Stupid younger generation. they're so stupid.
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Seattle found another way to get rid of all their excess jobs.
On May 14, City Council is scheduled to vote on an "employee head tax," which would impose a 26 cent levy on every hour worked by an employee at companies making more than $20 million a year. The tax would hit between 500 and 600 businesses; it is supposed to raise about $75 million a year for homelessness and affordable housing services.
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Amazon isn't taking the tax lying down. On Tuesday the company announced that it is pausing construction planning for a 17-story building intended to serve as office space for some 7,000 Amazon employees. Amazon is being uncharacteristically explicit about the reasons for the stall.

"I can confirm that pending the outcome of the head-tax vote by City Council, Amazon has paused all construction planning on our Block 18 project in downtown Seattle and is evaluating options to sublease all space in our recently leased Rainier Square building," company spokesperson Drew Herdener said in a statement.

Supporters of the tax were incensed at this unintended yet totally predictable consequence of their policy.

"If Amazon generally wants to engage about how they can be part of the solution, we welcome that conversation," Councilmember Mike O'Brian said Wednesday, according to The Seattle Times. "But we need companies that are profitable and making billions of dollars every year to help with the folks that are being forced out of housing and ending up on the street."

Councilmember Kshama Sawant—a self-proclaimed socialist who has endorsed the nationalization of another Seattle-area corporate titan, Boeing—was less subtle. Sawant calls Amazon's refusal to passively accept the taxation "blackmail," and she organized a Thursday rally outside Amazon's headquarters.
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the city will find a way to capitulate to Amazon, as usual
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em2nought wrote: Sat Mar 10, 2018 10:01 am
GreenGoo wrote: Sat Mar 10, 2018 5:05 am Hah ha! Stupid younger generation. they're so stupid.
I found this to be very interesting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXWNChoIluo
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Moliere wrote: Fri May 04, 2018 5:25 pm Seattle found another way to get rid of all their excess jobs.
So is there a point where you admit your thesis was 100% *wrong*? The minimum wage didn't kill jobs. Sure you can find plenty of articles such as this about how restaurants are closing in droves but then again this particular article talks about the actual dynamics versus this minimum wage nonsense. The employment data for the city shows it is doing better than the State and Country. Those jobs are totally being hated on.
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Oops, wrong thread. Think I'll go buy something at Amazon, they earned some business from me today. :mrgreen:
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Rip wrote:They aren't done killing jobs yet.

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Seattle's turning red against their socialist overlord https://www.geekwire.com/2018/seattle-s ... -business/
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Oops, they did it again.
Amazon 'Questions' Its Growth In Seattle After City Passes Watered-Down Tax to Help Homeless
http://fortune.com/2018/05/15/amazon-se ... ax-passed/
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Seattle really bothers you, doesn't it? :lol:
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The Mustache weighs in on Seattle.
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Moliere wrote: Tue May 15, 2018 7:02 pm The Mustache weighs in on Seattle.
A Libertarian hates a tax? Big shock. Still waiting to see *any evidence* of job killing.
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Was that guy actually complaining about building code? Is he insane? He cherry picks a few that sound terrible without context, so all 700 pages is "too much"? I hope a pedestrian bridge doesn't fall on him.
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Exactly. 700 pages. Oh wow. I totally bet they significantly cause high housing prices in Seattle. Give me a break. Localized economic booms lead to all kinds of distortions. For example, in the Dakota oil fields we had/have people making $150K for unskilled jobs living in parking lots. Despite it being pretty deregulated. Until these assertions are backed with evidence beyond some lizard brain explanation they are fairly worthless.

He also complains about urban planning. No high rises in certain areas. Only single family homes, etc. I suspect he'd bitch too if they raised taxes to build the infrastructure to support those skyscrapers or high density housing he envisions fixes the housing supply issues there.
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Isgrimnur wrote: Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:41 am Since this is the de facto Amazon HQ thread: 20 finalists
  • Dallas, Texas
Paring down:
On Tuesday, Arlington officials announced Amazon passed on the city, stating it is "no longer moving forward in the selection process" for HQ2. Arlington was informed of the tech giant's decision in recent weeks.

"I think they're looking for a more advanced urban setting," Mayor Jeff Williams told CNNMoney.
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Arlington, which has a population of nearly 400,000, may be out of the running, but other cities in the Dallas-Fort Worth metro area appear to remain under consideration.
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Other major metro areas also submitted multiple sites for consideration. For example, New York City's bid suggested four areas for the new facility: Midtown West, Long Island City, the Brooklyn Tech Triangle and Lower Manhattan.
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Still, Williams is pleased Arlington was a finalist. He hopes the proposed site will attract another corporation to relocate to the city.
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Apparently Seattle hates mom & pop landlords as well since they're trying to pass laws that will force them to sell. http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/05/ ... -much.html
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Ah, Fox News. Fair and balanced.

Although once the liberal deep state makes it move, we're going to replace all their "journalists" with Mexican rapists, instead of the domestic ones they employ now.

I do like they example the op ed writer uses:
Let’s say MariLyn meets the first person to apply for a vacant unit in her triplex. The applicant checks out on paper, but she’s disturbed to see his skin is littered with swastikas and prison tattoos.

Under the first-in-time rule, she would have had to offer him the unit.
So he's on Fox posting an article condemning a practice that can actually help the average Fox News viewer? :?

Someone didn't vet that article. :whistle:
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hepcat wrote: Mon May 21, 2018 8:49 am So he's on Fox posting an article condemning a practice that can actually help the average Fox News viewer? :?
Maybe Hillary should grow a tiny little mustache for the next run. :wink:
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I'm pretty sure Hitler didn’t take into consideration the needs of the many outweighing the needs of the few. I doubt he even saw Wrath of Khan.

Now your guy? He loves him some good ol’ fashion Nazi common sense.
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Seattle Now Wants to Repeal Controversial Amazon Tax
Yesterday Seattle Mayor Jenny Durkan, along with seven of nine city councilmembers, released a statement announcing their intention to repeal the controversial employee head tax.

"It is clear that the ordinance will lead to a prolonged, expensive political fight over the next five months that will do nothing to tackle our urgent housing and homelessness crisis," reads Monday's statement. "This week, the City Council is moving forward with the consideration of legislation to repeal the current tax on large businesses to address the homelessness crisis."

Had the City Council not killed its own head tax, voters might have.

Almost immediately after Durkan signed the tax into law, an initiative campaign was launched to put the head tax on the November 2019 ballot. Within days the campaign had attracted $300,000 in funding including $25,000 a piece from Starbucks and Amazon. The effort reportedly gathered 22,000 signatures by June 7, comfortably above the 17,000 it needed before its June 14 deadline.

Rather than risk an expensive ballot campaign that public opinion polling suggested would not go its way, the council has decided to pull the tax and try again.
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