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Re: Religion Randomness

Post by LordMortis » Fri Jun 21, 2019 12:27 pm

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Post by Daehawk » Fri Jun 21, 2019 12:34 pm

I consider myself a Christian but why do so many find the need to stick their bills in other people's business? If you dont like it dont watch it morons.
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Post by hitbyambulance » Fri Jun 21, 2019 12:44 pm

this might be first signs that 'netflix' is now genericized for 'any streaming video on tv'

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Post by Skinypupy » Fri Jun 21, 2019 12:55 pm

"Hail Satan" prayer at city council meeting prompts walkout.
Several attendees at a government meeting open to the public in Alaska walked out in protest after an opening prayer praised Satan.

The Associated Press reports the prayer, where a woman declared “Hail Satan,” was given by Satanic Temple member Iris Fontana, who won the right to open the meeting with an invocation of her choice.

“That which will not bend, must break, and that which can be destroyed by truth should never be spared as demise. It is done, hail Satan,” Fontana said to open the meeting, according to local radio station KSRM

The controversial prayer Tuesday night started the meeting of the Kenai Peninsula Borough and prompted several attendees to exit.

A protest outside the borough’s administration building ensued, drawing 40 or so people.
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Post by Daehawk » Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:42 pm

Well Id never worship satan but I do get a kick out of that place's antics. Also for a country of religious freedom it seems it more like religious freedom if its our's or we agree with it.
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Post by Skinypupy » Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:58 pm

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Well Id never worship satan but I do get a kick out of that place's antics. Also for a country of religious freedom it seems it more like religious freedom if its our's or we agree with it.
They don't actually worship Satan. From the Satanic Temple's FAQ page (Church of Satan is similar):
DO YOU WORSHIP SATAN?

No, nor do we believe in the existence of Satan or the supernatural. The Satanic Temple believes that religion can, and should, be divorced from superstition. As such, we do not promote a belief in a personal Satan. To embrace the name Satan is to embrace rational inquiry removed from supernaturalism and archaic tradition-based superstitions. Satanists should actively work to hone critical thinking and exercise reasonable agnosticism in all things. Our beliefs must be malleable to the best current scientific understandings of the material world — never the reverse.
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Post by Isgrimnur » Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:29 pm

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Post by Holman » Fri Jun 21, 2019 6:08 pm

How did the petitioners miss the point that (per Neil Gaiman) the show's Angel and the Devil are actually and homoerotically in love with each other? Surely they should be up in arms about that as well.
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Post by Grifman » Fri Jun 21, 2019 10:47 pm

People can be so stupid. I had a few people at my church circulating petitions about Proctor and Gamble's symbol being "satanic" and Madelyn Murry O'Hair (back when she was alive) trying to get Christians off of TV (all long and old rumors and disproven at the time) - at least until I corrected them.

That said, this is a virtually unknown organization and I guess you can easily find 20,000 idiots in any group consisting of millions, bless their souls.
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Post by Kraken » Fri Jun 21, 2019 11:09 pm

Grifman wrote:
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That said, this is a virtually unknown organization and I guess you can easily find 20,000 idiots in any group consisting of millions, bless their souls.
I see what you did there. :)

If they aren't actual devil worshipers, the Satanic Temple chose their name poorly. Based on their mission statement they would have been more popular using Lucifer, the Light Bringer. If you're going to have a divisive name, at least get your symbolism right.

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Post by Holman » Sat Jun 22, 2019 8:29 am

I don't know a whole lot about it, but my impression is that the Church of Satan began in the 1950s/60s as a kind of underground beat-hippie club pursuing the occult and only gradually morphed into its current "respectable" atheistic/rationalist incarnation.
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Post by Skinypupy » Sat Jun 22, 2019 10:27 am

Holman wrote:
Sat Jun 22, 2019 8:29 am
I don't know a whole lot about it, but my impression is that the Church of Satan began in the 1950s/60s as a kind of underground beat-hippie club pursuing the occult and only gradually morphed into its current "respectable" atheistic/rationalist incarnation.
Here's a handy-dandy comparison chart. It's from Satanic Temple so there's obviously some bias involved, but it covers the main differences and similarities pretty well.

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Post by Max Peck » Sat Jun 22, 2019 2:15 pm

Skinypupy wrote:
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It's from CoS, so there's obviously some bias involved
*Cough*
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Post by Skinypupy » Sat Jun 22, 2019 3:34 pm

Max Peck wrote:
Sat Jun 22, 2019 2:15 pm
Skinypupy wrote:
Sat Jun 22, 2019 10:27 am
It's from CoS, so there's obviously some bias involved
*Cough*
Whoops. Corrected in the OP
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Post by Holman » Sat Jun 22, 2019 5:42 pm

Why can't servants of The Great Adversary just get along??
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Post by LawBeefaroni » Sat Jun 22, 2019 6:15 pm

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Post by hepcat » Wed Jun 26, 2019 12:50 pm

I don't consider them Christians at this point. The overwhelming majority of evangelicals in this country have sold their souls for power. I truly hope that actual Christians take a stance against these false ones someday soon. If Jesus were alive today, he'd probably be the first person to block Falwell on twitter.
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Post by Pyperkub » Tue Jul 09, 2019 3:49 pm

Christian Grifting:
What Aliera Healthcare was peddling was not insurance, but rather connection to a Christian health care cost-sharing ministry, an obscure but growing type of coverage based on the biblical principle that the like-minded should help each other in times of need. Members contribute monthly into an Aliera-administered fund to help pay their future medical bills.

It sure sounded like insurance to Martinez. Or close enough. And, as a Christian, he figured any company marketing faith should be more trustworthy. He signed up in April 2018 and began paying Aliera thousands of dollars. The only problem: The plan turned out to be worthless. He now owes $129,000 in medical bills currently in collections.

As similar cases have surfaced across the country, regulators in several states, including Texas, are taking action against Aliera, accusing the 4-year-old company of fraudulently selling insurance without a license — a charge Aliera denies. But the story runs deeper, emerging as a tangled tale of broken deals, politics, religion, prison and, of course, money. And it is unfolding at a time when the nation’s health insurance regulations are steadily unspooling...

...Aliera, however, is under no legal obligation to pay claims. In fact, authorities allege just 20 cents out of every dollar collected in member fees appear to go to medical bills. That’s the exact opposite of Affordable Care Act rules that generally require insurers devote 80 percent of what they collect in premiums to covering health care costs.

Texas insurance authorities also say that Aliera’s affiliated health-sharing ministry, Trinity HealthShare, fails to comply with state rules on such groups and operates as a “shell that was created to disguise Aliera and its control by Aliera.”...

...The concept of health care cost-sharing ministries is often likened to an old-time Amish barn-raising, with people of faith helping each other in times of trouble. But in fact, the groups have become big business and increasingly under scrutiny.

Because they are mostly unregulated, no one knows for sure how many exist in this country, where they are or how many members they have. A decade ago, overall membership in health-share ministries was thought to be around 200,000. Now, it is estimated at more than 1 million.

Health policy experts believe what propelled the rapid growth is a special carve out in the Affordable Care Act that exempted members from the law’s requirement to carry traditional health insurance or face a penalty. Lawmakers agreed to the exemption after the groups argued it was a matter of religious freedom.
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Post by LawBeefaroni » Tue Jul 09, 2019 4:07 pm

We see those all the time. The patients call it insurance and think it is. It is not. I freaking hate those and the "liberty" ones.
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... he'd probably be hanging out with the atheists, shaking his head at all the other organized religions and all their hate.
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Post by Isgrimnur » Wed Jul 17, 2019 12:06 pm

Tasmania
A Tasmanian family has been ordered to pay more than $2 million to the Australian Taxation Office after failing to pay income tax on the grounds it "goes against God's will".

Christian missionaries Fanny Alida Beerepoot and Rembertus Cornelis Beerepoot faced the Supreme Court of Tasmania on Wednesday after they both failed to pay an estimated $930,000 in income tax and other charges in 2017.

Solicitor Stephen Linden told the court the pair had been served two notices of their debt and had failed to lodge their tax returns.
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[Mr Beerepoot] argued that by being made to pay taxes, their dependence on God was being taken away from them, which was causing Australia to be cursed.
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In 2017, the family had their 2.44-hectare property at Mole Creek in Northern Tasmania seized and later sold for $120,000 by the Meander Valley Council after they refused to pay about $3,000 worth of rates on the property over seven years.
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Post by LawBeefaroni » Wed Jul 17, 2019 12:23 pm

Christian missionaries Fanny Alida Beerepoot and Rembertus Cornelis Beerepoot faced the Supreme Court of Tasmania on Wednesday after they both failed to pay an estimated $930,000 in income tax and other charges in 2017.
What kind of income do missionaries make that they have ~$930K in income tax?

Do they get $1 every time someone chuckles at their names?
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Post by Isgrimnur » Wed Jul 17, 2019 12:30 pm

The Guardian
The Beerepoot family own the Melita Honey Farm, a popular tourist stop in Chudleigh, northern Tasmania.
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The unpaid rates cover three properties: the honey farm shopfront in Chudleigh, a nearby house and a bed and breakfast at the nearby township of Mole Creek.
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