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Voter Fraud

Post by Isgrimnur » Fri Oct 16, 2015 4:43 pm

We need a devoted thread.

They caught one!
A Colorado prosecutor says her office does not plan to file any charges against a man who allegedly voted in Kansas after doing so Colorado.

Yuma County District Attorney Brittny Lewton said Friday that Lincoln L. Wilson did not commit perjury or voter fraud because he voted first in Colorado. She says it did not become fraud until he went to Kansas several days later and cast a second ballot, and any perjury and double voting occurred in Kansas.

Lewton says her office conducted an investigation, and sent Kansas its findings.

Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach has filed 10 criminal charges, including three felony counts, in Sherman County against the 64-year-old voter.

Wilson allegedly voted in both Kansas and Colorado in the same elections in 2010, 2012 and 2014.
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Re: Voter Fraud

Post by Moliere » Fri Oct 16, 2015 6:50 pm

It only takes one vote.
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Re: Voter Fraud

Post by GreenGoo » Fri Oct 16, 2015 6:53 pm

Moliere wrote:It only takes one vote.
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Post by Alefroth » Fri Oct 16, 2015 9:03 pm

Moliere wrote:It only takes one vote.
In the whole world. That's beyond insignificant.

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Post by Defiant » Fri Feb 19, 2016 6:35 pm

After reviewing Nevada law, we believe that registering under false pretenses in order to participate in the Democratic caucuses for purposes of manipulating the presidential nominating process is a felony," state party Chair Roberta Lange said in a statement. "The Nevada State Democratic Party will work with law enforcement to prosecute anyone who falsely registers as a Democrat to caucus tomorrow and subsequently participates in the Republican caucuses on Tuesday.”

The party includes a relevant section from state law that refers to voting but not specifically to the act of caucusing.

The sharply worded statement follows an announcement from the College Republicans at the University of Nevada, Reno, encouraging members to "capitalize on, if they see fit to" on rules that would permit them to caucus Saturday and vote in the GOP primary on Tuesday.
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Re: Voter Fraud

Post by Rip » Fri Feb 19, 2016 7:44 pm

But as long as they don't participate in the Republican caucus they are golden.....

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Post by Isgrimnur » Fri Feb 19, 2016 7:50 pm

Since when does bored shuffling about at a committee meeting constitute a governmental interference?
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Post by Defiant » Sat Feb 20, 2016 2:43 am

Rip wrote:But as long as they don't participate in the Republican caucus they are golden.....
What caucuses would those be?

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Post by Defiant » Sat Feb 20, 2016 2:45 am

I'm wondering if maybe parties should disallow party switches (not new registrations, but party switches) within the last X months before primaries, in order to prevent people from switching registrations just to try to vote for the candidate that they think will lose the general election (or at least, make it more difficult)

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Post by Kraken » Sat Feb 20, 2016 3:28 am

Defiant wrote:I'm wondering if maybe parties should disallow party switches (not new registrations, but party switches) within the last X months before primaries, in order to prevent people from switching registrations just to try to vote for the candidate that they think will lose the general election (or at least, make it more difficult)
I like anything that makes the game harder to rig. As an independent, I can take either ballot and I do sometimes infiltrate the enemy camp. If you're a partisan who wants to cross over, though, why aren't you independent?

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Post by The Meal » Mon Feb 22, 2016 10:14 am

Kraken wrote:As an independent, I can take either ballot and I do sometimes infiltrate the enemy camp. If you're a partisan who wants to cross over, though, why aren't you independent?
Does not work that way in all states. Michigan: that's how it works. Colorado: independents cannot participate in party primaries. #LessonsLearnedTheHardWay
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Post by msteelers » Mon Feb 22, 2016 10:52 am

As an independent in Florida, I can't vote in the primaries. Which is frustrating because in my county the Republican party runs nearly unopposed by the democrats, which means the election is almost always decided in the primaries.

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Post by Jeff V » Mon Feb 22, 2016 1:48 pm

In Illinois, we decide if we want to vote Republican or Democrat in the primary. The reason for primaries is to help those two parties decide their candidate for the general election, which is done during their respective conventions. I am not aware of a third-party convention for nominating candidates not in either of those two parties, so there is no need for an independent primary. There's no binding commitment from choosing a party to vote in the primary -- I am nearly 100% certain that I won't vote for a Republican candidate in the general election, but I might very well vote in the Republican primary.

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Post by Isgrimnur » Wed Mar 22, 2017 7:55 pm

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The 2016 election was just a month away when Steve Curtis, a conservative radio host and former Colorado Republican Party chairman, devoted an entire episode of his morning talk show to the heated topic of voter fraud.

“It seems to me,” Curtis said in the 42-minute segment, “that virtually every case of voter fraud I can remember in my lifetime was committed by Democrats.”

On Tuesday, Colorado prosecutors threw a wrench into that already dubious theory, accusing Curtis of voter fraud for allegedly filling out and mailing in his ex-wife’s 2016 ballot for president, Denver’s Fox affiliate reported.

Curtis, 57, was charged in Weld County District Court with one count of misdemeanor voter fraud and one count of forgery, a Class 5 felony, according to local media.

The case is the only voter fraud investigation related to the 2016 election that has resulted in criminal charges in the state, the Colorado secretary of state’s office told Denver’s ABC affiliate.
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Officials in Weld County, Colo., said they learned of Curtis’s allegedly fraudulent ballot when his ex-wife, Kelly Curtis, called the local elections office in October asking how she could cast a vote by mail in Colorado from her new home in South Carolina, Fox 31 reported.
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In court Tuesday, Curtis’s attorney reportedly asked the judge to impose a gag order to prevent prosecutors from discussing the case. The judge rejected the request, according to Fox 31. Curtis is due back in court in May.
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Curtis served as chairman of the Colorado Republican Party from 1997 to 1999. In 2011, he made a brief reentry into state politics when he oversaw the advisory board for the Denver Tea Party Patriots, ABC 7 reported.
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Post by Freyland » Wed Mar 22, 2017 10:27 pm

I vote you re-post that in the Republican Officials crime wave thread. Purely for completion's sake.
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Post by Kraken » Wed Mar 22, 2017 10:29 pm

The MA secretary of state draws a line between anti-immigration sentiment and voter suppression (in the broadest sense).
President Trump’s anti-immigrant rhetoric is raising alarms among state officials and immigrant advocates who fear it will create such havoc with the 2020 US Census that Massachusetts could risk a congressional seat and significant federal aid.

Those officials and community-based organizations are convinced that some foreign-born residents — both documented and undocumented — will be too fearful to answer questions from census gatherers because of the highly charged anti-immigrant policies and statements emanating from Washington.

“I am extremely alarmed that the rhetoric and the action of the Trump administration are going to make it very difficult to get cooperation from non-native-born residents of Massachusetts who should be counted,’’ said Secretary of State William F. Galvin, who oversees the state’s population count.

At stake is the political and fiscal future of Massachusetts because the federal government relies on the census, taken every 10 years, to determine the level of federal funds each state receives and the number of congressional seats they are allocated.
Not voter suppression as such...but if attacking immigrants weakens the blue states in the electoral college, so much the better.

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Post by Carpet_pissr » Thu Mar 23, 2017 8:36 am

Isgrimnur wrote:WaPo
The 2016 election was just a month away when Steve Curtis, a conservative radio host and former Colorado Republican Party chairman, devoted an entire episode of his morning talk show to the heated topic of voter fraud.

“It seems to me,” Curtis said in the 42-minute segment, “that virtually every case of voter fraud I can remember in my lifetime was committed by Democrats.”

On Tuesday, Colorado prosecutors threw a wrench into that already dubious theory, accusing Curtis of voter fraud for allegedly filling out and mailing in his ex-wife’s 2016 ballot for president, Denver’s Fox affiliate reported.

Curtis, 57, was charged in Weld County District Court with one count of misdemeanor voter fraud and one count of forgery, a Class 5 felony, according to local media.

The case is the only voter fraud investigation related to the 2016 election that has resulted in criminal charges in the state, the Colorado secretary of state’s office told Denver’s ABC affiliate.
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Officials in Weld County, Colo., said they learned of Curtis’s allegedly fraudulent ballot when his ex-wife, Kelly Curtis, called the local elections office in October asking how she could cast a vote by mail in Colorado from her new home in South Carolina, Fox 31 reported.
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In court Tuesday, Curtis’s attorney reportedly asked the judge to impose a gag order to prevent prosecutors from discussing the case. The judge rejected the request, according to Fox 31. Curtis is due back in court in May.
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Curtis served as chairman of the Colorado Republican Party from 1997 to 1999. In 2011, he made a brief reentry into state politics when he oversaw the advisory board for the Denver Tea Party Patriots, ABC 7 reported.
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Post by Isgrimnur » Fri Jun 30, 2017 12:47 pm

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The chair of President Trump's Election Integrity Commission has penned a letter to all 50 states requesting their full voter-roll data, including the name, address, date of birth, party affiliation, last four Social Security number digits and voting history back to 2006 of potentially every voter in the state.

In the letter, a copy of which was made public by the Connecticut secretary of state, the commission head Kris Kobach said that “any documents that are submitted to the full Commission will also be made available to the public.”
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States began reacting to the letter on Thursday afternoon. "I have no intention of honoring this request," said Governor Terry McAuliffe of Virginia in a statement. "Virginia conducts fair, honest, and democratic elections, and there is no evidence of significant voter fraud in Virginia."

Connecticut's Secretary of State, Denise Merrill, said she would "share publicly-available information with the Kobach Commission while ensuring that the privacy of voters is honored by withholding protected data." She added, however, that Kobach "has a lengthy record of illegally disenfranchising eligible voters in Kansas" and that "given Secretary Kobach's history we find it very difficult to have confidence in the work of this Commission."

Under federal law, each state must maintain a central file of registered voters. States collect different amounts of information on voters. While the files are technically public records, states usually charge fees to individuals or entities who want to access them. Political campaigns and parties typically use these files to compile their massive voter lists.
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Earlier this month, a federal judge fined Kobach $1,000 for “presenting misleading arguments in a voting-related lawsuit,” according to Politico.
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Even a member of the Kobach commission said her state would not comply. Indiana Secretary of State Connie Lawson (R), the president of the National Association of Secretaries of State, announced in a statement that her state wouldn’t release certain information requested by Kobach.

“Indiana law doesn’t permit the Secretary of State to provide the personal information requested by Secretary Kobach,” Lawson said. “Under Indiana public records laws, certain voter info is available to the public, the media and any other person who requested the information for non-commercial purposes. The information publicly available is name, address and congressional district assignment.”

Officials in Wisconsin, Colorado and Texas said their states would release public information, but certain data, including full dates of birth and Social Security numbers, were confidential and would not be released. North Dakota’s director of elections, John Arnold, told The Hill that state law would not allow the presidential commission access to voter information.
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Officials in Connecticut, Minnesota, Rhode Island and Utah also expressed skepticism and said their states would withhold nonpublic information.
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Post by Isgrimnur » Tue Jul 04, 2017 5:58 pm

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Forty-four states have refused to provide certain types of voter information to the Trump administration's election integrity commission, according to a CNN inquiry to all 50 states.

State leaders and voting boards across the country have responded to the letter with varying degrees of cooperation -- from altogether rejecting the request to expressing eagerness to supply information that is public.
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"Numerous states are refusing to give information to the very distinguished VOTER FRAUD PANEL. What are they trying to hide?" Trump tweeted.
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The vice chairman's letter twice requests only "public" voter information, and Kobach clarified the specifics of his request Friday: "Every state receives the same letter, but we're not asking for it if it's not publicly available," he told The Kansas City Star.
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"First of all, the commission is not to prove or disprove what the President speculated about in January," Kobach said. "The purpose of the commission is to find facts and put them on the table. Importantly, it's a bipartisan commission."

But the commission, which is chaired by Vice President Mike Pence, seemed to misunderstand voter privacy laws nationwide. Every state that responded to the commission's letter said it could not provide Social Security numbers, for example. Others said they consider information such as birth dates and party affiliations to be private.

What's more, Kobach asked states to supply the information through an online portal. Many states have rejected this specific request, noting that the commission should file a voter information request through established state websites, as any other party would.

As of Tuesday afternoon, two states -- Florida and Nebraska -- are still reviewing the commission's request. Another two states -- Hawaii and New Jersey -- have not returned CNN's request for comment. And while six states are still awaiting a letter from the commission, four of them -- New Mexico, Michigan, South Carolina and West Virginia -- have already pledged not to provide voters' private information. The other two of those six states, Arkansas and Illinois, have not released statements ahead of receiving the letter.

Just three states -- Colorado, Missouri and Tennessee -- commended Kobach's attempt to investigate voter fraud in their respective statements.
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Post by Isgrimnur » Sat Jul 08, 2017 5:44 pm

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A woman from Des Moines, Iowa, pleaded guilty to election misconduct for attempting to cast two separate ballots in the 2016 presidential election for then-Republican nominee Donald Trump.

According to the Associated Press, Terri Lynn Rote, 57, entered her plea for the felony charge on June 27. Court documents state that lawyers affiliated with the case are recommending Rote face up to two years of probation with community service on the side.

Rote told police why she tried to vote more than once. She was convinced her first vote for Mr. Trump would be manipulated and changed to a vote for then-Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton. According to her statement to the police, Rote believed Mr. Trump's claims about widespread election rigging.

Sentencing is set for August 15. Rote was arrested in October at a satellite voting station when she attempted to cast the second ballot. According to police records reviewed by the Washington Post, Rote's first early-voting ballot was issued at the Polk County Election Office.

In January, according to the Des Moines Register, Rote's defense attorney argued in a filing that she had "significant mental deficits" that should have prevented her from having to stand trial.
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In January, according to the Des Moines Register, Rote's defense attorney argued in a filing that she had "significant mental deficits" that should have prevented her from having to stand trial.
If she believed his bullshit, she had to have had significant mental deficits. Everybody knows "voter fraud" is codeword for "stop brown people from voting".

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Post by Paingod » Mon Jul 10, 2017 9:39 am

gbasden wrote:
In January, according to the Des Moines Register, Rote's defense attorney argued in a filing that she had "significant mental deficits" that should have prevented her from having to stand trial.
If she believed his bullshit, she had to have had significant mental deficits. Everybody knows "voter fraud" is codeword for "stop brown people from voting".
Everyone except ignorant white people who aren't aware of the correlation. When you're not extremely poor or an 'oppressed' minority (not all minorities are held back, right?), it's easy to go through life without being aware of those factors. In my mind, if a person wants to vote, they will. Apparently that's not the case and things like identify requirements are racially motivated and unjustly harsh. I'm still having trouble wrapping my head around that, and it seems alien to me that having an ID isn't an automatic given. In my sad little backwoods world, everyone has a photo ID - even the poorest white folks. The concept of being too poor to get an ID, or being unable to get an ID because your records are missing is something I have to accept but can't understand.
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The US has for decades sought to understand the scope of voter fraud. The bottom line has been that while US voter rolls tend to be outdated – Pew has found that some 24 million registrations, or 1 in 8, may be inaccurate – evidence of actual in-person collusion and impersonation at the ballot box is exceedingly rare. One much-cited study found a total of 31 credible reports of voter fraud out of the 1 billion votes cast between 2000 and 2014.
For many African-Americans, however, such hoop-jumping has a familiar feel. Historically, from Reconstruction to the civil rights era, gains in voting rights have been followed by retrenchment, often at the hands of white officials seeking to preserve a demographic and political status quo against the country's growing racial and political diversity. Since the 2013 Supreme Court Shelby v. Holder decision, which invalidated part of the Voting Rights Act, formerly DoJ-supervised states such as Texas, Alabama, and North Carolina have invoked stricter voting rules that courts have found disproportionately affect young people and low-income minorities, who tend to vote Democrat.
The impact of such voter integrity crackdowns can be seen in places like Hancock County. There, voter participation fell by 40 percent after local deputies were deployed to hand out summonses in person to the 187 people whose registrations were being challenged. (Often, such inquiries are mailed.) The Lawyers' Committee accused the county of voter intimidation and filed a lawsuit in 2015, after the mayoral election that saw Sparta get its first white mayor in four decades.
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After the election, he shifted his unsubstantiated fraud talk from rumormongering about voter impersonation to claims of massive noncitizen voting. Trump said repeatedly that 3 to 5 million illegal voters had cast ballots, a claim so outlandish it is hard to know where to start to refute it. (We could start with a Brennan Center report which, so far, has found a total of 30 cases nationwide of possible noncitizen voting. That’s 30, not 300, 3,000, 30,000, 300,000, or 3 million.) He claimed that “none” of the supposed fraudulent votes went to him.
In hindsight, the focus on noncitizen voting makes sense, and the endgame is about passing federal legislation to make it harder for people to register and vote. The noncitizen focus fits in with Trump’s anti-immigrant rhetoric as well as the rhetoric of Kris Kobach, the Kansas secretary of state who has been advising Trump on voter fraud issues. Kobach has repeatedly lost in lawsuits against the American Civil Liberties Union on account of his actions to make it harder for people to register and vote. Just last week, a federal magistrate judge fined him $1,000 for misleading the court by attempting to shield a document regarding his advice to Trump on how to make voter registration harder.
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Let’s be clear at the outset. There is no evidence of a massive voter fraud problem in the United States. There is no evidence of even a modest voter fraud problem in the United States. There is no statistical evidence. There is no anecdotal evidence. There is no more evidence that we need national protections from voter fraud than there is that we need to wear personal lightning-rod suits so that we avoid the 30-odd deaths each year from electrical storms.
Trump didn’t introduce the idea of targeting voter fraud. It’s been a hobbyhorse for Republicans for some time, offered as a rationale for new voter-registration limits that have the consistent side effect of making it harder for Democratic-voting populations to cast a ballot.
Kobach also demonstrates how the specter of voter fraud is used to affect voting patterns. The state of Kansas implemented a rule requiring new voters to prove that they were citizens, an effort Kobach championed. The effect was to prevent a number of prospective voters from being able to cast ballots — a group that Reuters determined “disproportionately [hit] young voters, who often do not have ready access to the needed documents, as well as unaffiliated and Democratic voters in the Republican-controlled state.” The rule was eventually blocked by the courts.
Yeah, the Republicans didn't suddenly get all patriotic and decide that they had to focus on vote purity to solve a problem that doesn't exist. They found a successful way to keep Democrats, often poor and brown, from voting.

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This is rich.
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Post by Alefroth » Wed Jul 19, 2017 6:46 pm

pr0ner wrote:This is rich.
In the full video he basically implied we may never know that Trump really won either.

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Post by Isgrimnur » Thu Aug 24, 2017 9:35 am

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A federal judge who has compared Texas’ voter ID requirements to a “poll tax” on minorities once again blocked the law Wednesday, rejecting a weakened version backed by the Trump administration and dealing Texas Republicans another court defeat over voting rights.

U.S. District Judge Nelva Gonzales Ramos rejected changes signed by Republican Gov. Greg Abbott this summer as not only lacking but also potentially chilling to voters because of new criminal penalties. The new version didn’t expand the list of acceptable photo identifications — meaning gun licenses remained sufficient proof to vote, but not college student IDs.
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Texas first passed the voter ID law in 2011, the same year the GOP-controlled Legislature adopted voting maps that were also struck down as discriminatory.
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But Gonazles Ramos, who first struck down the law in 2014, said Texas didn’t go far enough with its changes and said that criminal penalties Texas attached to lying on the affidavit could have a chilling effect on voters who, fearful of making an innocent mistake on the form, simply won’t cast a ballot.

Nor was she swayed by Texas clarifying under the revised law, known as Senate Bill 5, that both U.S. passport books and cards would be accepted. “This feature remains discriminatory because SB 5 perpetuates the selection of types of ID most likely to be possessed by Anglo voters and, disproportionately, not possessed by Hispanics and African-Americans,” she wrote.

It was another major ruling over voter ID laws this year. In May, the U.S. Supreme Court shut the door on efforts by North Carolina to revive a state law that mandated voter identification. The Texas voter ID law could now be the high court’s next opportunity to weigh in.

The decision also leaves open the potential of Texas becoming the first state dragged back under federal oversight since the U.S. Supreme Court in 2013 gutted the federal Voting Rights Act, which had required states with troubled racial histories to submit election changes for approval. Gonzales Ramos left that question open for consideration later.

Texas has spent years fighting to preserve both the voter ID law — which was among the strictest in the U.S. — and its voting maps. Earlier this month, a separate federal court found racial gerrymandering in Texas’ congressional maps and ordered voting districts to be partially redrawn before the 2018 elections.
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Post by Isgrimnur » Wed Jan 10, 2018 6:38 pm

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In a court filing on Tuesday, the White House announced that it had not uncovered any preliminary findings of voter fraud in the 2016 election and that it would be destroying confidential voter data initially collected for President Trump’s controversial voter fraud commission, which was disbanded on January 3.
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“The Commission did not create any preliminary findings,” White House Director of Information Technology Charles C. Herndon said. “In any event, no Commission records or data will be transferred to the DHS or another agency, except to NARA [the National Archives and Records Administration] if required, in accordance with federal law.”
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Up until Tuesday, Kobach — who is currently running for governor in his home state — had given the impression that the voter fraud investigation was ongoing and that the disbanded commission had uncovered a swath of evidence that was being hampered by “leftist” groups, according to Breitbart. On January 3, Kobach told the outlet that, moving forward, he would be “working closely with the White House and DHS to ensure the investigations continue.”
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He added that “some people on the left were getting uncomfortable about how much we were finding out.”
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Kobach was caught in another lie earlier this week, when the DHS announced that he would not be advising department officials investigating the commission’s findings as he had claimed.
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In response, Kobach insisted that the White House had promised he would be involved in the process moving forward.
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Tuesday’s announcement follows a court filing from Maine Secretary of State Matt Dunlap — a Democrat and one of the commission’s own members — for a temporary restraining order (TRO) to “preserve his access to information and documents” related to the commission. Dunlap — who told Politico he found out about the panel’s dissolution on January 3 via a news release — previously sued the commission for allegedly barring him and others from viewing its records, claiming that its Republican members had been largely unresponsive to his requests.
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Post by El Guapo » Wed Jan 10, 2018 6:43 pm

I read that it's expected that Kobach will run for governor of Kansas. Which I hope so - get him the hell away from DC and the other states. Time to take one for the team, Kansas.

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Post by em2nought » Wed Jan 10, 2018 6:56 pm

No voter fraud, that's great news. Now if only votes couldn't be bought and paid for. :wink:

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Post by Chaz » Wed Jan 10, 2018 7:37 pm

So you're unhappy that Trump ran promising massive tax cuts then, right?
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Post by GreenGoo » Wed Jan 10, 2018 8:23 pm

Build a communal road with both men's fish, and no one is happy because they don't understand basic civil engineering, basic economics, or the wealth of nations.

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Post by Isgrimnur » Tue Jan 23, 2018 11:10 am

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Donald Trump’s controversial voter fraud commission asked for files on every Texan with a Hispanic surname, newly released documents show.
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On the data request form, policy adviser Ron Williams ticked a box asking for “Hispanic surname flag notation” to be included in the files.
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Documents obtained by Missouri Democrat Senator Claire McCaskill show the commission had paid for voter records from some states that refused to provide them for free. Among the files was an invoice for $3,437.30 to be paid to obtain data on 49.6 million registered voters in Texas, including the details of those with Hispanic surnames.

Kris Kobach, the Republican vice-chairman of the voting commission, told the Washington Post that the request was “a complete surprise to me”.

“At no time did the commission request any state to flag surnames by ethnicity or race,” he said.

Told about the Texas invoice, he added: “Mr Williams did not ask any member of the commission whether he should check that box or not, so it certainly wasn’t a committee decision”.
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Post by Isgrimnur » Tue Jan 23, 2018 11:12 am

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A Maryland man arrested this week after authorities said they found child pornography on his cellphone worked for President Trump’s voter fraud commission, according to a senior administration official.

Ronald Williams II, 37, of Suitland, was a researcher for the Presidential Advisory Commission on Election Integrity, said the official, who requested anonymity to discuss a personnel matter.
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Williams was on secondment to the commission from the Office of the Special Counsel, an independent federal investigative and prosecutorial agency. His work with the voting commission was abruptly terminated this week, the senior administration official said. A spokeswoman for the Office of the Special Counsel declined to comment on Williams’s status with that agency.
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Post by LawBeefaroni » Tue Jan 23, 2018 3:25 pm

The commission, established after Mr Trump claimed “millions” of people voted illegally in the presidential election, was dissolved earlier this month [January 2018] amid mounting legal challenges and resistance from several states.
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Re: Voter Fraud

Post by GreenGoo » Tue Jan 23, 2018 11:30 pm

Republicans are now jealous of Mexico's democracy? Why not go all in and chase Turkey's version of democracy?

America, love it or leave it if you think Mexico is so great.

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Post by em2nought » Tue Jan 23, 2018 11:42 pm

This pretty much says it all, when it comes to voter ID it sounds like liberals still view African Americans as stereotypes from Gone with the Wind. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrBxZGWCdgs
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Post by Grifman » Wed Jan 24, 2018 1:18 am

em2nought wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 6:56 pm
No voter fraud, that's great news. Now if only votes couldn't be bought and paid for. :wink:

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You mean like this:

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/37 ... lan-passed
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Re: Voter Fraud

Post by Grifman » Wed Jan 24, 2018 1:21 am

em2nought wrote:
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Don't you think that maybe this is required because Mexico has historically had problems with govt fraud and corruption that just don't exist to nearly the same extent in the US? Just maybe?
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