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Canada 2015-19: New Hope or Phantom Menace?

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Re: Canada 2015-19: New Hope or Phantom Menace?

Post by Max Peck » Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:01 pm

The Indian disdain for Canada runs a lot deeper than photo-op wardrobes. If this is the worst you can dig up, then the trip is going better than I thought. :coffee:
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Re: Canada 2015-19: New Hope or Phantom Menace?

Post by GreenGoo » Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:21 pm

billion in deals during Trudeau visit

Trip is going ok, although there is some griping.

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Re: Canada 2015-19: New Hope or Phantom Menace?

Post by Max Peck » Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:44 pm

The snubbery isn't about business.
Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi hasn’t hidden his fondness for foreign leaders. He has embraced them, tweeted at them, and sent them birthday wishes—all in an effort to make India a global player in international affairs. So when Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, he of the perfect coiffure, high-voltage smile, and beautiful family arrived in New Delhi this week for a state visit, it should have been a perfect photo-op. Instead, neither Modi nor any of his senior ministers showed up to receive the Trudeaus.

Trudeau has smiled his way through India, however, meeting with business executives, signing billions of dollars worth of business deals, posing for photographs with Bollywood actors, and donning Indian attire befitting his own Indian wedding reception. The Indians, for their part, have denied the Canadian prime minister is being snubbed (one unnamed official went as far as to call it “protocol”). But a snub it is—and the diplomatic brush-off has its roots in an Indian separatist movement from the 1980s and present-day Canadian domestic politics.
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Re: Canada 2015-19: New Hope or Phantom Menace?

Post by GreenGoo » Thu Feb 22, 2018 11:04 pm

Yeah. We know.

That came out snarky. It wasn't intended that way.
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Re: Canada 2015-19: New Hope or Phantom Menace?

Post by tjg_marantz » Fri Feb 23, 2018 1:24 am

Every article about the trip on Twitter brings out these cute little maga wannabes from the prairies. They are so pathetic, trying to rile themselves up. They really think they have it bad up here, it's mind boggling.
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Re: Canada 2015-19: New Hope or Phantom Menace?

Post by Max Peck » Fri Feb 23, 2018 11:59 am

GreenGoo wrote:
Thu Feb 22, 2018 11:04 pm
Yeah. We know.

That came out snarky. It wasn't intended that way.
I'm betting that the subset of "we" that gets off on mocking Trudeau's pretty-boy image doesn't actually know a lot about the Sikh independence movement and it's impact on Canadian-Indian relations.
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Re: Canada 2015-19: New Hope or Phantom Menace?

Post by Max Peck » Sun Mar 11, 2018 1:54 am

So, Doug Ford Jr (the slightly less infamous brother of the late Rob Ford) is the new leader of the Progressive Conservative Party of Ontario. Interesting times ahoy!
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Re: Canada 2015-19: New Hope or Phantom Menace?

Post by Holman » Thu Jun 07, 2018 9:31 pm

Headline:
Doug Ford is new Premier of Ontario; Canadians forfeit superiority to Donald Trump.
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Re: Canada 2015-19: New Hope or Phantom Menace?

Post by Max Peck » Thu Jun 07, 2018 9:39 pm

Technically, it should read "Ontarians forfeit superiority to Trump voters." :pop:
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Re: Canada 2015-19: New Hope or Phantom Menace?

Post by Sudy » Thu Jun 07, 2018 9:50 pm

Holman wrote:
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Headline:
Doug Ford is new Premier of Ontario; Canadians forfeit superiority to Donald Trump.
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Re: Canada 2015-19: New Hope or Phantom Menace?

Post by Holman » Thu Jun 07, 2018 10:08 pm

Max Peck wrote:
Thu Jun 07, 2018 9:39 pm
Technically, it should read "Ontarians forfeit superiority to Trump voters." :pop:
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Re: Canada 2015-19: New Hope or Phantom Menace?

Post by GreenGoo » Fri Jun 08, 2018 4:40 am

Ontario is kind of used to being a cesspool.

On a separate note, how knew that when you go to war with something (trade or otherwise) they might get indignant about the whole thing.

At this point I'm starting to think Drumpf envies the intellect of a bag of hammers (doorknobs?).

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GreenGoo wrote:
Fri Jun 08, 2018 4:40 am
Ontario is kind of used to being a cesspool.

On a separate note, how knew that when you go to war with something (trade or otherwise) they might get indignant about the whole thing.

At this point I'm starting to think Drumpf envies the intellect of a bag of hammers (doorknobs?).
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Re: Canada 2015-19: New Hope or Phantom Menace?

Post by Defiant » Tue Mar 05, 2019 11:29 am

Justin Trudeau's government his being shaken by his first major political scandal, which has led to two resignations form his cabinet.

The scandal stems from claims that Canadian officials inappropriately pressured a former justice minister to help a major construction company avoid a corruption trial.
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Post by Isgrimnur » Tue Mar 05, 2019 12:12 pm

One resigned because they were implicated, one resigned because they were disgusted.
Treasury Board President Jane Philpott, who was in charge of government spending, resigned on Monday and attacked the government for its handling of claims it intervened to protect a major construction firm.

She is the second Cabinet minister to resign, following former justice minister Jody Wilson-Raybould, who is at the center of the scandal.
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Philpott said in her resignation statement: "Sadly, I have lost confidence in how the government has dealt with this matter and in how it has responded to the issues raised."
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Wilson-Raybould was demoted from justice minister to the post of veteran affairs minister in January, before the scandal became public knowledge.

She resigned from Cabinet on February 12, by which time reports had started to emerged of the corruption allegations.

She did not outline her reasons for resigning in her resignation letter to Trudeau, but wrote that Canadians "must stand together for the values that Canada is built on, and which are the foundation for our future."
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Re: Canada 2015-19: New Hope or Phantom Menace?

Post by Max Peck » Sat Mar 09, 2019 6:33 pm

That's just the tip of the iceberg...
"Trudeau gave $600 million to the Clinton Foundation. The Clinton Foundation is part of child trafficking and child sacrifice, if you study it. It's in the pizzagate," he said.

"The PM, if he knows about the foundation, should he be in jail for that one? Also, he needs to pay back the $600 million plus his trips to the Canadians."
Time and tide melt the snowman.

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