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OK, I'll admit all I've got is the title, but with the 4th of July weekend coming up and Brexit still dominating the news I thought I'd toss it out there. Are those -isms all on the same spectrum? How much to they blend into one another? Does racism belong on the same spectrum?
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I do have a test today, that wasn't bullshit. It's on European Socialism. I'm not European, I don't plan on being European, so who gives a crap if they're socialists? They could be fascist anarchists. It still wouldn't change the fact that I don't own a car!

Not that I condone fascism, or any -ism for that matter. -Ism's in my opinion are not good. A person should not believe in an -ism, he should believe in himself. I quote John Lennon, 'I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me.' Good point there. After all, he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. I'd still have to bum rides off people.
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Here's the article to go with Rip's image.
A suffix is the Word of the Year because a small group of words that share this three-letter ending triggered both high volume and significant year-over-year increase in lookups at Merriam-Webster.com. Taken together, these seven words represent millions of individual dictionary lookups.

Read on to find more about each of these words, and the events that triggered them, as well as five other words that sent us to the dictionary in 2015.
The actual -ims words were:
  • Socialism
  • Fascism
  • Racism
  • Feminism
  • Communism
  • Capitalism
  • Terrorism
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Wasn't Paul the walrus?
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Covenant72 wrote:Wasn't Paul the walrus?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnzIStuzjSg

I don't believe in -isms I just believe in me?

And now this is stuck in my head.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V67OOERTOEo

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Don't most -ism belong together? A way lump categorize a beliefs into a system of inclusion or exclusion?
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Max Peck wrote: The actual -ims words were:
  • Socialism
  • Fascism
  • Racism
  • Feminism
  • Communism
  • Capitalism
  • Terrorism
Wouldn't it be
  • Socialims
  • Fascims
  • Racims
  • Feminims
  • Communims
  • Capitalims
  • Terrorims
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hepcat wrote:
Max Peck wrote: The actual -ims words were:
Wouldn't it be
  • Socialims
  • Fascims
  • Racims
  • Feminims
  • Communims
  • Capitalims
  • Terrorims
Take it up with my editorial staff. :)
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Autism?
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Well, this thread went down an unexpected path. :lol:
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Globalism is the one true religion, bow down at it's feet. All the other -isms might as well be regarded as Neanderthals. Put them all on "ignore". :wink: ...except Socialism & Communism worship those to, but do it on the sly. Oh, and don't answer any questions regarding Venezuela, it's an aberration.
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Kraken wrote:Well, this thread went down an unexpected path. :lol:
I watched it sitting on the tracks, start to move and immediately derail before it left the station. I was like "Poor Kraken, not what he was hoping to talk about". :D
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LordMortis wrote:I don't believe in -isms I just believe in me?
Some people believe in astrology
Others believe in technology
Some people believe in all those "ologies"
But I believe in swordfish
On topic: I think fundamentally the world functions on an "us vs them" mentality. It's not until our alien masters descent from the stars that "us" becomes all humans and we can focus our angst on them. You may also feel free to substitute "robots" for aliens in this example as that is probably more likely to happen in our collective lifetime.
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What, no love for irredentism?
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Feminism
This is the year when a sea of pink dominated the streets of several American cities, the year when #MeToo became a symbolic driving force against sexual misconduct by men, and when a group of women — “The Silence Breakers” — graced the cover of Time as the voices that launched that movement.

These events, says Merriam-Webster, are the reasons 2017 was a big year for feminism — at least literally.

The online dictionary has dubbed “feminism” its word of the year, meaning it is the most-searched word on Merriam-Webster’s website. Lookups for the definition of feminism increased by 70 percent over last year. There were also several major spikes that coincide with major news events, said Peter Sokolowski, Merriam-Webster’s editor at large.
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Sokolowski said the first such spike happened in January, when thousands of women packed the streets of several cities in the United States and beyond in a massive act of defiance against a newly inaugurated president. Discussions on what the word meant to attendees and organizers of the Women’s March, and whether the protest was a show of feminism, fueled the spike, he said.

Searches for the word spiked again the following month, when Kellyanne Conway, counselor to President Trump, distanced herself from the term.
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Merriam-Webster said the storm of revelations in the latter half of 2017 and the emergence of #MeToo, a hashtag that countless of women used on social media to say that they have been victims of some form of sexual misconduct or harassment, resulted in a steady increase in searches for what feminism is.
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Merriam-Webster said curiosity about the definition of feminism spiked following the release of “Wonder Woman,” headlined by Jewish actress Gal Gadot and created by the first woman to direct a big-budget superhero movie, and the Hulu series “The Handmaid’s Tale,” based on a novel about a dystopian and totalitarian society where women are stripped of their rights and forced into sexual servitude.
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Another word that became popular this year is “complicit,” which ranks No. 2 in Merriam-Webster’s top 10 list and was recently declared word of the year by dictionary.com. Both online dictionaries said spikes in searches for the word involved Ivanka Trump, the president’s oldest daughter and a current White House adviser. Merriam-Webster said the word spiked in March when Ivanka Trump responded to accusations that she was being complicit in her father’s decisions.
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Other words that made Merriam-Webster’s top 10 are: recuse, popularized by Sessions’s decision to recuse himself from investigations involving Russia and the presidential election; dotard, an old-fashioned word that North Korean President Kim Jong Un used to described President Trump; and gaffe, specifically, the envelope fiasco that led to the announcement of the wrong winner for Best Picture at the Academy Awards.
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