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Re: DNC E-Mail Wikileaks

Post by Victoria Raverna » Thu Aug 17, 2017 10:47 pm

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YellowKing wrote:LOL. I had a 50MB connection in 2015.
While it's *possible* that you had a 50MB connection in 2015, it seems far more likely that you had a 50Mb connection. Big difference. ;)

A 22MB/s connection corresponds to about a 200Mbps connection. Although I had a faster connection than that in 2016.
And DNC's mail server probably had a faster connection than 200 Mbps?

That is the important question, right? If the answer is no, then maybe it was not an online hack.

Another thing is the size of the e-mail data that is used to get the 22 MB/s speed, is that the compressed size or uncompressed? If it is uncompressed then maybe you don't need 200 Mbps connection to transfer the data since the hacker can compress it locally then transfer the compressed data.

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Re: DNC E-Mail Wikileaks

Post by noxiousdog » Thu Aug 17, 2017 11:11 pm

Victoria Raverna wrote:
RunningMn9 wrote:
YellowKing wrote:LOL. I had a 50MB connection in 2015.
While it's *possible* that you had a 50MB connection in 2015, it seems far more likely that you had a 50Mb connection. Big difference. ;)

A 22MB/s connection corresponds to about a 200Mbps connection. Although I had a faster connection than that in 2016.
And DNC's mail server probably had a faster connection than 200 Mbps?

That is the important question, right? If the answer is no, then maybe it was not an online hack.

Another thing is the size of the e-mail data that is used to get the 22 MB/s speed, is that the compressed size or uncompressed? If it is uncompressed then maybe you don't need 200 Mbps connection to transfer the data since the hacker can compress it locally then transfer the compressed data.
The only important thing is 2 private and 5 government agencies think it was a hack and one amature says it wasn't.
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Re: DNC E-Mail Wikileaks

Post by malchior » Fri Aug 18, 2017 12:34 am

noxiousdog wrote:The only important thing is 2 private and 5 government agencies think it was a hack and one amature says it wasn't.
This. Also a small matter that the private one had direct access to the original forensic data. The anonymous amateur doesn't. Pretty significant disadvantage.

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Post by Moliere » Fri Aug 18, 2017 12:42 am

Wikileaks' Julian Assange reportedly turned down a trove of documents related to the Russian government
WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange reportedly "gave excuse after excuse" for refusing to publish a trove of documents related to corruption within the Russian government, according to chat logs obtained by Foreign Policy.

The source who sent the chat logs to Foreign Policy told the publication that the documents " would have exposed Russian activities and shown WikiLeaks was not controlled by Russian security services. Many Wikileaks staff and volunteers or their families suffered at the hands of Russian corruption and cruelty, we were sure Wikileaks would release it. Assange gave excuse after excuse.”

The documents comprised roughly 68 gigabytes worth of data, according to FP, and were the continuation of a set of files about Russia's involvement in Ukraine that had been hacked — and reported on — in 2014. WikiLeaks told FP that it turns down documents it cannot verify or that have already been published elsewhere, and that it "has never rejected a submission due to its country of origin."
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Post by Pyperkub » Fri Aug 18, 2017 11:30 pm

Yeah, until such time as the FBI comes out and reverses their previous statement that it was Russia, this is just FUD.
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Post by Isgrimnur » Tue Jul 09, 2019 1:37 pm

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In the summer of 2016, Russian intelligence agents secretly planted a fake report claiming that Democratic National Committee staffer Seth Rich was gunned down by a squad of assassins working for Hillary Clinton, giving rise to a notorious conspiracy theory that captivated conservative activists and was later promoted from inside President Trump’s White House, a Yahoo News investigation has found.

Russia’s foreign intelligence service, known as the SVR, first circulated a phony “bulletin” — disguised to read as a real intelligence report —about the alleged murder of the former DNC staffer on July 13, 2016, according to the U.S. federal prosecutor who was in charge of the Rich case. That was just three days after Rich, 27, was killed in what police believed was a botched robbery while walking home to his group house in the Bloomingdale neighborhood of Washington, D.C., about 30 blocks north of the Capitol.
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The Russian effort to exploit Rich’s tragic death didn’t stop with the fake SVR bulletin. Over the course of the next two and a half years, the Russian government-owned media organizations RT and Sputnik repeatedly played up stories that baselessly alleged that Rich, a relatively junior-level staffer, was the source of Democratic Party emails that had been leaked to WikiLeaks. It was an idea first floated by WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, who on Aug. 9, 2016, announced a $20,000 reward for information about Rich’s murder, saying — somewhat cryptically — that “our sources take risks.”

At the same time, online trolls working in St. Petersburg, Russia, for the Internet Research Agency (IRA) — the same shadowy outfit that conducted the Russian social media operation during the 2016 election — aggressively boosted the conspiracy theories. IRA-created fake accounts, masquerading as those of American citizens or political groups, tweeted and retweeted more than 2,000 times about Rich, helping to keep the bogus claims about his death in the social media bloodstream, according to an analysis of a database of Russia troll accounts by Yahoo News.
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Post by Holman » Tue Jul 09, 2019 4:46 pm

So we'll get apologies from the major right-wing media personalities who amplified the story and even keep doing it?
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Post by Fireball » Tue Jul 09, 2019 4:48 pm

I ended a decades-long friendship with someone who went all-in on this disgusting conspiracy. How low do you have to be to use the death of an innocent kid to smear the campaign of the candidate he was working to elect?
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Post by Isgrimnur » Tue Jul 09, 2019 4:48 pm

You'd have better luck getting apologies from the forum posters here that kept trotting out the story.
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Post by malchior » Tue Jul 09, 2019 5:21 pm

Let's be honest those who believed in this bullshit will never believe the Russia story anyway.

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Post by Isgrimnur » Tue Jul 09, 2019 5:28 pm

After all, which one is more believable?
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Post by em2nought » Tue Jul 09, 2019 5:46 pm

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Re: DNC E-Mail Wikileaks

Post by Holman » Tue Jul 09, 2019 7:02 pm

That's funny if you agree the whole Seth Rich meme was gullible and embarrassing and sad.

Presented straight, it's just gullible and embarrassing and sad.
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Re: DNC E-Mail Wikileaks

Post by Alefroth » Tue Jul 09, 2019 7:51 pm

Lol... deplorable humor... lol.

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