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To be fair, Greengoo is kind of disgusting, as is any colored goo.TheMix wrote:You have moved beyond trolling. Now I just find you disgusting, repulsive, and reprehensible. Yay you, I guess.
Edit: To be clear, that was directed at Rip, not Greengoo.
“If they fire Donna Brazile, why aren’t they firing Hillary Clinton?” Trump asked.
Rip wrote:What possible newsworthy information could she provide? She obviously wouldn't know anything about the laptop or what was on it.
Everyone already know Weiner is guilty.
Because people still respond to his bullshit.Freyland wrote:Congratulations, Rip. You've gone beyond trolling to a vomit-inducing bag of trash. Why do you even continue to post here?
Blackhawk wrote:Wait. Did you somehow just get tagged in?
http://spectator.org/hillary-and-joe-paterno/Blackhawk wrote:Wait. Did you somehow just get tagged in?
Head for the exits baby! 
Fox News Channel's Bret Baier reports the latest news about the Clinton Foundation investigation from two sources inside the FBI. He reveals five important new pieces of information in these two short clips:
1. The Clinton Foundation investigation is far more expansive than anybody has reported so far and has been going on for more than a year.
2. The laptops of Clinton aides Cherryl Mills and Heather Samuelson have not been destroyed, and agents are currently combing through them. The investigation has interviewed several people twice, and plans to interview some for a third time.
3. Agents have found emails believed to have originated on Hillary Clinton's secret server on Anthony Weiner's laptop. They say the emails are not duplicates and could potentially be classified in nature.
4. Sources within the FBI have told him that an indictment is "likely" in the case of pay-for-play at the Clinton Foundation, "barring some obstruction in some way" from the Justice Department.
5. FBI sources say with 99% accuracy that Hillary Clinton's server has been hacked by at least five foreign intelligence agencies, and that information had been taken from it.
True or not true,( and I have no opinion on that), there's a whole bunch of semi-subtle editorializing and unsupported fact assuming going on in that report.Smutly wrote:Fox News Channel's Bret Baier reports the latest news about the Clinton Foundation investigation from two sources inside the FBI. He reveals five important new pieces of information in these two short clips:
1. The Clinton Foundation investigation is far more expansive than anybody has reported so far and has been going on for more than a year.
2. The laptops of Clinton aides Cherryl Mills and Heather Samuelson have not been destroyed, and agents are currently combing through them. The investigation has interviewed several people twice, and plans to interview some for a third time.
3. Agents have found emails believed to have originated on Hillary Clinton's secret server on Anthony Weiner's laptop. They say the emails are not duplicates and could potentially be classified in nature.
4. Sources within the FBI have told him that an indictment is "likely" in the case of pay-for-play at the Clinton Foundation, "barring some obstruction in some way" from the Justice Department.
5. FBI sources say with 99% accuracy that Hillary Clinton's server has been hacked by at least five foreign intelligence agencies, and that information had been taken from it.
Indeed. Even if Comey is making honest efforts to be apolitical it's crystal clear that other staff there has zero such intent.malchior wrote:Comey has totally lost control - he is toast and his reputation is going to be in tatters along with the FBI. Just another completely broken American institution at this point.
geezer wrote:True or not true,( and I have no opinion on that), there's a whole bunch of semi-subtle editorializing and unsupported fact assuming going on in that report.Smutly wrote:Fox News Channel's Bret Baier reports the latest news about the Clinton Foundation investigation from two sources inside the FBI. He reveals five important new pieces of information in these two short clips:
1. The Clinton Foundation investigation is far more expansive than anybody has reported so far and has been going on for more than a year.
2. The laptops of Clinton aides Cherryl Mills and Heather Samuelson have not been destroyed, and agents are currently combing through them. The investigation has interviewed several people twice, and plans to interview some for a third time.
3. Agents have found emails believed to have originated on Hillary Clinton's secret server on Anthony Weiner's laptop. They say the emails are not duplicates and could potentially be classified in nature.
4. Sources within the FBI have told him that an indictment is "likely" in the case of pay-for-play at the Clinton Foundation, "barring some obstruction in some way" from the Justice Department.
5. FBI sources say with 99% accuracy that Hillary Clinton's server has been hacked by at least five foreign intelligence agencies, and that information had been taken from it.
Is it just me though, or does every one of those five "facts" seem like very odd things to leak if one was trying to let relevant (as opposed to purely political) information out. Take number 4. An indictment is likely... UNLESS.. that's an awful convenient accusation and cover all in one.El Guapo wrote:Huh, imagine that - sources at the FBI have leaked information that sounds pro-Trump. What are the odds?
I call it "not enough evidence to move forward".Smutly wrote:FBI agents pressed Justice Department unsuccessfully for probe of Clinton Foundation earlier this year.
Call it whatever you want to call it.
Substance is irrelevant this week. What matters is keeping "Clinton emails and FBI" in headlines a week before the election. Whether the Trump campaign engineered that or just rolled a 20, it's exactly what they needed.GreenGoo wrote:Yawn.
Get back to me when they actually investigate and find something, anything, that isn't innuendo and wishful thinking. And it better be RICO worthy and not some improperly filed paper work. Bonus points if it involves emails in some way.
Comey can't dig in. He serves at the pleasure of the President. If Clinton wins, there is no possible way Comey survives, no matter how "bad" it looks.malchior wrote:Especially if Comey digs in.
She's not exactly white, is she? So I guess she checks all your boxes.
Doesn't that give him more of a reason to dig in?RunningMn9 wrote:Comey can't dig in. He serves at the pleasure of the President. If Clinton wins, there is no possible way Comey survives, no matter how "bad" it looks.malchior wrote:Especially if Comey digs in.
i call it a reason to eat popcorn!!!GreenGoo wrote:I call it "not enough evidence to move forward".Smutly wrote:FBI agents pressed Justice Department unsuccessfully for probe of Clinton Foundation earlier this year.
Call it whatever you want to call it.
What do you call it? A conspiracy?
What is this, some shitty SJW Dragonlance rewrite? Tiamat does not approve!
He can't give carte blanche to FBI people from the unemployment line. The memo he wrote to Congress was effectively his resignation letter.El Guapo wrote:Doesn't that give him more of a reason to dig in? ... He just gives FBI people carte blanche to leak to the press whatever innuendo they want to (if he hasn't done that already, I suppose).
Please you are starting to sound like the liberal version of the right wing facebook pages my friends post. I'm pretty sure Clinton is doing well among college educated white males:malchior wrote:Also - the FBI is completely dominated my middle-age white men. So it is hardly shocking they have become politically active for Trump. Too bad they are pulling down their very institution right around them.
No, it's not a conspiracy.malchior wrote:Considering the behavior we are seeing now - it *was* a conspiracy. A conspiracy to undermine the Clinton candidacy using Federal police powers. When that didn't work - they started leaking to get their way. If Clinton wins, she'll have a huge headache. Especially if Comey digs in. Whatever the case - there are obviously huge integrity issues in the FBI right now which is absolutely awful.
Two days before FBI director James Comey rocked the world last week, Rudy Giuliani was on Fox, where he volunteered, un-prodded by any question: “I think he’s [Donald Trump] got a surprise or two that you’re going to hear about in the next few days. I mean, I’m talking about some pretty big surprises.”
Pressed for specifics, he said: “We’ve got a couple of things up our sleeve that should turn this thing around.”
The man who now leads “lock-her-up” chants at Trump rallies spent decades of his life as a federal prosecutor and then mayor working closely with the FBI, and especially its New York office. One of Giuliani’s security firms employed a former head of the New York FBI office, and other alumni of it. It was agents of that office, probing Anthony Weiner’s alleged sexting of a minor, who pressed Comey to authorize the review of possible Hillary Clinton-related emails on a Weiner device that led to the explosive letter the director wrote Congress.
I meant through the election. But even after the election, how is Comey at all done regardless of who wins? If Trump wins, he (now) loves Comey. If Clinton wins, she can't fire him - imagine the shitstorm that would ensue for her if she does. He could resign, but that's up to him.RunningMn9 wrote:He can't give carte blanche to FBI people from the unemployment line. The memo he wrote to Congress was effectively his resignation letter.El Guapo wrote:Doesn't that give him more of a reason to dig in? ... He just gives FBI people carte blanche to leak to the press whatever innuendo they want to (if he hasn't done that already, I suppose).
I believe I prefaced my comment by saying if Clinton wins. And she can fire him. You can't let someone like this hang around because it will look bad.El Guapo wrote:If Trump wins, he (now) loves Comey. If Clinton wins, she can't fire him - imagine the shitstorm that would ensue for her if she does. He could resign, but that's up to him.
"Conspiracy" is too strong. That said, there is pretty clearly a significant faction within the FBI that really is actively pro-Trump. Start with the WSJ article about the FBI (and FBI - DOJ) civil war over this stuff. Add in all of the leaks over the past couple weeks, all of which are pro-Trump (leaking both anti-Clinton stuff, and leaking stuff dismissive of a Trump-Russia connection). The article that Captain Caveman just posted adds to that.Grifman wrote:No, it's not a conspiracy.malchior wrote:Considering the behavior we are seeing now - it *was* a conspiracy. A conspiracy to undermine the Clinton candidacy using Federal police powers. When that didn't work - they started leaking to get their way. If Clinton wins, she'll have a huge headache. Especially if Comey digs in. Whatever the case - there are obviously huge integrity issues in the FBI right now which is absolutely awful.
If that is true then it must also be true that there are a lot of pro-Clinton people at the DOJ. Like Podesta and Clinton buddy Kadzik who not coincidentally is running the investigation for the DOJ.El Guapo wrote:"Conspiracy" is too strong. That said, there is pretty clearly a significant faction within the FBI that really is actively pro-Trump. Start with the WSJ article about the FBI (and FBI - DOJ) civil war over this stuff. Add in all of the leaks over the past couple weeks, all of which are pro-Trump (leaking both anti-Clinton stuff, and leaking stuff dismissive of a Trump-Russia connection). The article that Captain Caveman just posted adds to that.Grifman wrote:No, it's not a conspiracy.malchior wrote:Considering the behavior we are seeing now - it *was* a conspiracy. A conspiracy to undermine the Clinton candidacy using Federal police powers. When that didn't work - they started leaking to get their way. If Clinton wins, she'll have a huge headache. Especially if Comey digs in. Whatever the case - there are obviously huge integrity issues in the FBI right now which is absolutely awful.
It's hard to see the FBI as neutral actors at this point.
It's relevant to me. Whether it impacts the election results is a totally different question. There's plenty of reason to talk about facts even if those facts are buried behind rumour and blurred perception.Kraken wrote:Substance is irrelevant this week.GreenGoo wrote:Yawn.
Get back to me when they actually investigate and find something, anything, that isn't innuendo and wishful thinking. And it better be RICO worthy and not some improperly filed paper work. Bonus points if it involves emails in some way.
