The Former Trump Presidency Thread

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Fri May 26, 2017 10:54 pm

Smoove_B wrote:Big changes allegedly coming, but this one is my favorite:

One major change under consideration would see the president’s social media posts vetted by a team of lawyers, who would decide if any needed to be adjusted or curtailed. The idea, said one of Mr. Trump’s advisers, is to create a system so that tweets “don’t go from the president’s mind out to the universe.”

Some of Mr. Trump’s tweets—from hinting that he may have taped conversations with Mr. Comey to suggesting without any evidence that former President Barack Obama wire-tapped Trump Tower—have opened him to criticism and at times confounded his communications team.
As pointed out in the article, there's zero percent chance of him agreeing to have anyone filter or approve what he wants to say on Twitter. Zero. The idea that it's even being suggested is hilarious, doubly so that it's being floated now - that ship has sailed.

Honestly, after we survive this presidency, I think (perhaps to our on detriment) we will have learned that we can survive just about ANYONE being the president. Imagine the world where we, years from now, look at Trump as being the most benign of our next-gen politicians (in the way many of us would trade Bush for Trump in a NewYork Minute.) I'm so sad for our country. I'm so sad that so many people have been ignored by the government to allow for this shit. Cause, clearly- that's behind it all. Trump tapped the disenfranchised white poor America and they are terribly misguided but a legitimate entity. I'm so pissed at the Democratic Party being out of touch with them, as I'm quite certain that's the only party that has any legitimate desire to better 'everyones' life, but they just suck at politics.

Grifman · Post by **Grifman** » Fri May 26, 2017 11:35 pm

Smoove_B wrote:As pointed out in the article, there's zero percent chance of him agreeing to have anyone filter or approve what he wants to say on Twitter. Zero. The idea that it's even being suggested is hilarious, doubly so that it's being floated now - that ship has sailed.

We'll see. With a special counsel appointed, Trump may come to realize or be persuaded that anything he tweets could be used against him in impeachment or legal proceedings. I can only hope that the time of "unfiltered" Trump comes to an end.

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Sat May 27, 2017 12:14 am

Grifman wrote:
Smoove_B wrote:As pointed out in the article, there's zero percent chance of him agreeing to have anyone filter or approve what he wants to say on Twitter. Zero. The idea that it's even being suggested is hilarious, doubly so that it's being floated now - that ship has sailed.
We'll see. With a special counsel appointed, Trump may come to realize or be persuaded that anything he tweets could be used against him in impeachment or legal proceedings. I can only hope that the time of "unfiltered" Trump comes to an end.

I agree entirely - although NOT with your statement that one should hope that the time for 'unfiltered' Trumps comes to an end. (please correct me / as I garner we are in the identical camp)

"Filtered Trump" is a actually identically equal to a mitigated Trump... and while that may sound nice on the surface - it exposes the less critical eye on Trump.

Maybe I'm not reading your point here, Grifman(perhaps we are arguing the identical point even?) , but I am happy if Trump entirely exposes himself (unfiltered).

(so as to expose him to his own undeniable Core of ineptitude, and deigned him any claim to power at all. P E R I O D )

gilraen · Post by **gilraen** » Sat May 27, 2017 1:47 am

The idea, said one of Mr. Trump’s advisers, is to create a system so that tweets “don’t go from the president’s mind out to the universe.”

Yeah...I don't think that's the body part that they are coming from.

Carpet_pissr · Post by **Carpet_pissr** » Sat May 27, 2017 8:26 am

Defiant wrote:A fellow Orange American criticizes Trump:

Former House Speaker John Boehner says: “He’s still learning how to be president.”

'Still' learning indicates there has been 'some', right? Seems obvious there has been none.

Pyperkub · Post by **Pyperkub** » Sat May 27, 2017 2:16 pm

Carpet_pissr wrote:
Defiant wrote:A fellow Orange American criticizes Trump:

Former House Speaker John Boehner says: “He’s still learning how to be president.”

'Still' learning indicates there has been 'some', right? Seems obvious there has been none.

Well, he did learn that health care was complicated. ..

Carpet_pissr · Post by **Carpet_pissr** » Sun May 28, 2017 8:43 am

Touché

RunningMn9 · Post by **RunningMn9** » Sun May 28, 2017 9:19 am

I see that the Dunce in Chief is back at it this morning on the Tweeters. Employing a favorite rhetorical tactic of the weak-minded. Take something dirty and underhanded that you do (make up sources to claim legitimacy for whatever dumb shit is falling of your fingers) and accusing your opponents of doing it (to try to delegitimize them).

In fairness to the Dunce, he's probably never in his life told the truth about anything, and so it would seem inconceivable that others might.

I will agree with him that Fake News is one of our enemies (along with his Russian overlords), although I'm guessing we disagree on which news is fake.

gilraen · Post by **gilraen** » Sun May 28, 2017 1:05 pm

RunningMn9 wrote:I see that the Dunce in Chief is back at it this morning on the Tweeters. Employing a favorite rhetorical tactic of the weak-minded. Take something dirty and underhanded that you do (make up sources to claim legitimacy for whatever dumb shit is falling of your fingers) and accusing your opponents of doing it (to try to delegitimize them).

From Twitter:

@tonyposnanski wrote:Trump's tweets today...

4 About Fake News
1 Congratulating a man who assaulted a reporter
1 About Europe trip

0 Denouncing Portland attack

Chaz · Post by **Chaz** » Sun May 28, 2017 4:23 pm

That Portland dude is most likely in Trump's voting bloc, therefore is one of the Americans he feels like he works for. He'd never denounce one of them.

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Sun May 28, 2017 6:37 pm

If this wasn't written in the NYT, I'd think it was parody:

At the Trump National Golf Club outside Washington, which hosted the Senior P.G.A. Championship this weekend, the president’s coat of arms is everywhere — the sign out front, the pro shop, even the exercise room.

The regal emblem, used at President Trump’s golf courses across the United States, sports three lions and two chevrons on a shield, below a gloved hand gripping an arrow.

...

The British are known to take matters of heraldry seriously, and Mr. Trump’s American coat of arms belongs to another family. It was granted by British authorities in 1939 to Joseph Edward Davies, the third husband of Marjorie Merriweather Post, the socialite who built the Mar-a-Lago resort that is now Mr. Trump’s cherished getaway.

In the United States, the Trump Organization took Mr. Davies’s coat of arms for its own, making one small adjustment — replacing the word “Integritas,” Latin for integrity, with “Trump.”

Rip · Post by **Rip** » Sun May 28, 2017 7:27 pm

Smoove_B wrote:If this wasn't written in the NYT, I'd think it was parody:

At the Trump National Golf Club outside Washington, which hosted the Senior P.G.A. Championship this weekend, the president’s coat of arms is everywhere — the sign out front, the pro shop, even the exercise room.

The regal emblem, used at President Trump’s golf courses across the United States, sports three lions and two chevrons on a shield, below a gloved hand gripping an arrow.

...

The British are known to take matters of heraldry seriously, and Mr. Trump’s American coat of arms belongs to another family. It was granted by British authorities in 1939 to Joseph Edward Davies, the third husband of Marjorie Merriweather Post, the socialite who built the Mar-a-Lago resort that is now Mr. Trump’s cherished getaway.

In the United States, the Trump Organization took Mr. Davies’s coat of arms for its own, making one small adjustment — replacing the word “Integritas,” Latin for integrity, with “Trump.”

Moral of the story, Trump and Integrity are interchangeable.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Sun May 28, 2017 7:59 pm

You and Trump are quite alike. Neither of you know what integrity means if that's what you think.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Mon May 29, 2017 8:17 am

link

Chaz · Post by **Chaz** » Mon May 29, 2017 8:22 am

hepcat wrote:You and Trump are quite alike. Neither of you know what integrity means if that's what you think.

Sure they're interchangeable, just like Nutella can be substituted for peanut butter: yes, you can do it, and some people swear up and down that it's amazing and better, but those people are super wrong and strange, and are actively destroying our country.

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Mon May 29, 2017 10:36 am

My new favorite article - It's time for Trump to sell Kentucky:

One of our worst performing states is the very Republican (in 2016, Trump got 62.5% of its votes) State of Kentucky. It’s an embarrassing drag on our nation’s budget and economy. WalletHub identified Kentucky in 2017 as the state most dependent on the federal government, and a 2007 Tax Foundation Study (examining the period 1985-2005) found that Kentucky consistently received more from the federal government than it paid in. The numbers in Kentucky are dire.

In fiscal 2016, which ended last Sept. 30, the federal government collected $34 billion in taxes from Kentucky but spent $89 billion there — resulting in a net benefit to Kentucky of $55 billion (about $12,500 for each person in that state). By contrast, the federal government collected $109 billion in taxes from Massachusetts in 2016, but spent only $62 billion there. That's $47 billion less than it paid in taxes.

To Make America Great Again,we can’t afford any namby-pamby political correctness — we need to tell it like it is. Low productivity states (subsidized by our more productive states) need to carry their own weight or go, and Kentucky looks like a good place to start America’s transformation.

And it's not just KY:

Kentucky isn’t our only under-performing, money-draining state. GOP stalwarts such as Alabama, Mississippi and South Carolina are additional examples. Whatever solution we find for Kentucky should also be rolled out to these other low-productivity states.

Low productivity. Sad.

Paingod · Post by **Paingod** » Tue May 30, 2017 8:51 am

Grifman wrote:
Smoove_B wrote:As pointed out in the article, there's zero percent chance of him agreeing to have anyone filter or approve what he wants to say on Twitter. Zero. The idea that it's even being suggested is hilarious, doubly so that it's being floated now - that ship has sailed.
We'll see. With a special counsel appointed, Trump may come to realize or be persuaded that anything he tweets could be used against him in impeachment or legal proceedings. I can only hope that the time of "unfiltered" Trump comes to an end.

By now it should be painfully and completely clear that Trump is a human being with no capability to "realize" anything. His world view is firmly fixed. He is a winner, and everyone who likes him is also a winner; money makes the man, and Trump has money. Anyone not with him is loser, and those against him are his enemies. That is -all- that matters in his mind. Everything he does or has done supports this.

He will continue to act as though he has won right until he is pried from the desk, and will then spend the rest of his life screaming about how he was cheated and robbed.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Tue May 30, 2017 8:56 am

Trump has decades of this behavior behind him. He will never, ever stop tweeting whatever comes out of his damn head minutes after his minuscule brain thinks it up. Woe to any aid or family member that tries to tell him it's hurting him. He truly believes that what he writes is believed by an overwhelming majority of Americans. It's amazing how his internal defensive mechanism can distort anything to the point that he believes he's utterly blameless/victorious/popular.

Max Peck · Post by **Max Peck** » Tue May 30, 2017 9:44 am

The first of many?

Mike Dubke has resigned as White House communications director in the first of what could be a series of changes to President Trump's senior staff amid the growing Russia scandal.

Dubke, who served in the post for three months, tendered his resignation May 18. He offered to stay on to help manage communications in Washington during Trump's foreign trip, and the president accepted.

Dubke's last day on the job has not been determined. But it could be as early as Tuesday, when he was expected to meet with his staff at the White House, said a senior administration official, who required anonymity to discuss a personnel move that has not yet been formally announced.

Max Peck · Post by **Max Peck** » Tue May 30, 2017 10:03 am

Oh, they're laughing all right...

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... 4688387072

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Tue May 30, 2017 10:06 am

Dubke was the rare Trump newcomer in a White House in which personal relationships and proximity to the president is the currency. He arrived in mid-February, a few weeks into Trump's term, and struggled to build alliances with some colleagues on the senior staff, not having worked on Trump's campaign or his transition team.

Jason Miller, the Trump campaign's senior communications adviser, was slated to serve as communications director in the White House, but he stepped aside a few weeks before Inauguration Day, saying he wanted to spend more time with his family.

Somewhere Jason Miller is smiling to himself for seeing this coming. Good luck finding anyone who wants this job. Taking all the blame while the President vomits words out uncontrollably...no thanks. Anyone who takes this job or replaces Spicey is almost guaranteed to be completely incompetent.

Enough · Post by **Enough** » Tue May 30, 2017 12:13 pm

Hmm, mister POTUS is silly...

The Don wrote:Whenever you see the words 'sources say' in the fake news media, and they don't mention names....

....it is very possible that those sources don't exist but are made up by fake news writers. #FakeNews is the enemy!

vs

The Don wrote:Jared Kushner didn't suggest Russian communications channel in meeting, source says.

tjg_marantz · Post by **tjg_marantz** » Tue May 30, 2017 1:27 pm

Such a fucking genius.

Grifman · Post by **Grifman** » Tue May 30, 2017 1:33 pm

tjg_marantz wrote:Such a fucking genius.

Just a hint, the forums have this thing called "big image"

tjg_marantz · Post by **tjg_marantz** » Tue May 30, 2017 1:38 pm

not in tapatalk. Just got home to fix it.

Jeff V · Post by **Jeff V** » Tue May 30, 2017 1:44 pm

Smoove_B wrote: And it's not just KY:

Kentucky isn’t our only under-performing, money-draining state. GOP stalwarts such as Alabama, Mississippi and South Carolina are additional examples. Whatever solution we find for Kentucky should also be rolled out to these other low-productivity states.
Low productivity. Sad.

Kentucky will be solved by more coal mines and repealed Obamacare so the government won't have to pay for all those black lung nuisances. Those other states could be resolved by rolling back decades of anti-smoking legislation and make Philip Morris great again.

tgb · Post by **tgb** » Tue May 30, 2017 2:23 pm

Trump thinks Rip is an idiot.

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Tue May 30, 2017 2:37 pm

tgb wrote:Trump thinks Rip is an idiot.

Well how about that. I agree with Trump on something. Go figure.

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Tue May 30, 2017 3:08 pm

WH statement about Trump put out today is literally balls out crazy 3rd world material. Also he totally didn't write this himself or anything...

President Trump has a magnetic personality and exudes positive energy, which is infectious to those around him,” the statement from White House spokeswoman Hope Hicks reads. “He has an unparalleled ability to communicate with people, whether he is speaking to a room of three or an arena of 30,000. He has built great relationships throughout his life and treats everyone with respect. He is brilliant with a great sense of humor … and an amazing ability to make people feel special and aspire to be more than even they thought possible.

Ralph-Wiggum · Post by **Ralph-Wiggum** » Tue May 30, 2017 3:20 pm

How that statement describes Trump is almost 100% the opposite of the actual Trump.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Tue May 30, 2017 3:23 pm

Man, I wonder who wrote that. Such a puzzle!

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Tue May 30, 2017 3:25 pm

Unfortunately that is how he sees himself. The Spicer presser today was off the rails too for extra fun.

gilraen · Post by **gilraen** » Tue May 30, 2017 3:32 pm

I don't think anyone can ever use the words "sense of humor", "respect", and "Trump" in the same sentence and keep a straight face.

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Tue May 30, 2017 3:35 pm

gilraen wrote:I don't think anyone can ever use the words "sense of humor", "respect", and "Trump" in the same sentence and keep a straight face.

There are a few - they are generally fucking morons - but there are a few.

Zarathud · Post by **Zarathud** » Tue May 30, 2017 3:36 pm

Must be Opposite Day?

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Tue May 30, 2017 4:22 pm

malchior wrote:WH statement about Trump put out today is literally balls out crazy 3rd world material. Also he totally didn't write this himself or anything...

President Trump has a magnetic personality and exudes positive energy, which is infectious to those around him,” the statement from White House spokeswoman Hope Hicks reads. “He has an unparalleled ability to communicate with people, whether he is speaking to a room of three or an arena of 30,000. He has built great relationships throughout his life and treats everyone with respect. He is brilliant with a great sense of humor … and an amazing ability to make people feel special and aspire to be more than even they thought possible.

That's Juche, baby!

gilraen · Post by **gilraen** » Tue May 30, 2017 4:33 pm

'Suppose it would've been a bit on the nose for the WH to come right out and refer to Donald as "Dear Leader." ' - George Takei.
https://twitter.com/GeorgeTakei/status/ ... 1112401920

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Tue May 30, 2017 5:36 pm

Well, he does have the masses behind him...

link

RunningMn9 · Post by **RunningMn9** » Tue May 30, 2017 5:51 pm

malchior wrote:WH statement about Trump put out today is literally balls out crazy 3rd world material. Also he totally didn't write this himself or anything...

President Trump has a magnetic personality and exudes positive energy, which is infectious to those around him,” the statement from White House spokeswoman Hope Hicks reads. “He has an unparalleled ability to communicate with people, whether he is speaking to a room of three or an arena of 30,000. He has built great relationships throughout his life and treats everyone with respect. He is brilliant with a great sense of humor … and an amazing ability to make people feel special and aspire to be more than even they thought possible.

If any part of that were true, the White House wouldn't have had to release such an absurd statement. You don't have to tell us when people have a magnetic personality - we already know when they do.

That reminds of one of the other points that this dunce has tried to make which is how he constantly has to tell people how smart he is. I know *a lot* of smart people. I've never heard a single one of them have to tell me how smart they are. It's easy to tell when someone is smart (or not).

tgb · Post by **tgb** » Tue May 30, 2017 7:27 pm

RunningMn9 wrote: I've never heard a single one of them have to tell me how smart they are. It's easy to tell when someone is smart (or not).

True.