The Former Trump Presidency Thread

[Isgrimnur]

If anyone gets fired, they should refuse to leave and file multiple suits.

[El Guapo]

If anyone gets fired, they should refuse to leave and file multiple suits.

I'm pretty sure that's what one of them has been doing for the past few weeks.

[Defiant]

[malchior]

If anyone gets fired, they should refuse to leave and file multiple suits.

I'm pretty sure that's what one of them has been doing for the past few weeks.

One lawsuit is in motion already. Emphasis added. That is the clear issue. If the report that 88% of OMB is in the 'exception' category is accurate this will be a no-brainer. If it was 1% then maybe there would be something to argue. This was a ham-fisted move.

An employee union and three House Democrats on Tuesday launched a new defense against the president’s recent executive order on the career federal workforce.

The National Treasury Employee’s Union is suing the Trump administration over the recent executive order, which President Donald Trump signed last week.

NTEU filed a lawsuit Monday night in the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia. The union is looking for declaratory and injunctive relief from the Schedule F executive order, and the suit names the president and Michael Rigas, the acting director of the Office of Personnel Management, as defendants in the case.

“This case is a textbook example of the president acting contrary to Congress’s express and limited delegation of authority to the president,” the NTEU lawsuit reads. “Under the law, the president may only except positions from the competitive service when ‘necessary’ and ‘as conditions of good administration warrant.’ The president’s sweeping order fails to make a meaningful showing that shifting large numbers of federal employees into a new excepted service category so that they can be fired more quickly and without cause is necessary or supported by good administration principles.”

[El Guapo]

I think the long-term impact of this EO is going to be pretty limited, though maybe a few people get fired between now and inauguration day. But it's another view into how Trump was going to bring the federal bureaucracy fully to heel in service of his ambitions to consolidate an autocracy in his second term.

[malchior]

I think the long-term impact of this EO is going to be pretty limited, though maybe a few people get fired between now and inauguration day. But it's another view into how Trump was going to bring the federal bureaucracy fully to heel in service of his ambitions to consolidate an autocracy in his second term.

True. I take it a bit as evidence why some of it might have failed. This is such a amateurish swipe at it. Honestly it feels like it was done to placate Trump who was complaining about the bureaucracy. They jumped more than few hurdles when a more deliberate approach chipping away at it with their new 'Federalist judiciary' would have been more effective.

[Jaymann]

When Rush Limbaugh turns on you, you might just be ready for the broom.

[Jaymann]

Trump takes credit for DOW reaching 30K. Due to Biden transition? Nah, hiding in a bunker is great for the economy.

[LawBeefaroni]

[Zaxxon]

Like a few of us were just mentioning in the investment thread... Doesn't feel right. In any event, the Dow hitting ATH is great for a small percentage of America, but it's minor news for most during the pandemic.

[Edit - Also, it's almost as through DJT hasn't made the connection to the fact that it's news that he's really, truly, for realz this time on his way out that helped spur these recent gains.]

[LawBeefaroni]

It's also not a great indicator. There's inflation, the fact that the DOW is price weighted, the fact that there are fewer stocks available to invest in today vs any time in the past, all drive up the points number out of pace.


And the fact that the 1% still owns around 80% of the DOW (how's Occupy going?).

[Zaxxon]

[LordMortis]

Trump takes credit for DOW reaching 30K. Due to Biden transition? Nah, hiding in a bunker is great for the economy.

I don't think it's specifically Biden, I think it's first and foremost over-reaction to vaccine news, which is more closely related to Trump, aka warp speed (with the exception Pfizer) but secondly related to Biden only insofar as the market has more faith that he will push through COVID relief where Trump doesn't care and lets Mitch take the heat for his apathy.

All that said, none of it makes sense. I've been saving my paychecks for the new year instead of investing. I don't feel good about putting new money anywhere. I did put my 401k back in about two days too late after the initial Pfizer announcement, while still waiting on election news to clear and I'm glad I did. I was losing about .25% a week in my 401k money market and at least for now, I'm up about 5% from that slow bleed low. I fully expect that to go poof sooner than later.

Just took a peak. Looking at across the board 2-6% ups today for me in my personal portfolio. The hell?

[Smoove_B]

Staying on-brand to the end. Also: Good.

Outgoing First Lady Melania Trump - who once said she resented the burden of having to decorate the White House for Christmas - will skip the unveiling of this year's holiday décor. White House says: "The First Lady will not be in attendance."

[LawBeefaroni]

Staying on-brand to the end. Also: Good.

Outgoing First Lady Melania Trump - who once said she resented the burden of having to decorate the White House for Christmas - will skip the unveiling of this year's holiday décor. White House says: "The First Lady will not be in attendance."

Why even spend the money on decorations then?

[Isgrimnur]

It's not their money.

[LawBeefaroni]

It's not their money.

Well, yeah, exactly. Why are we spending money on decorations that no one wants and will be depressingly ironic at best?

[Unagi]

It's not their money.

Well, yeah, exactly. Why are we spending money on decorations that no one wants and will be depressingly ironic at best?

And isn't she on tape saying she hates this too?

[Jaymann]

It's not their money.

Well, yeah, exactly. Why are we spending money on decorations that no one wants and will be depressingly ironic at best?

And isn't she on tape saying she hates this too?

She hates irony? I think that ship has sailed.

[malchior]

It's not their money.

Well, yeah, exactly. Why are we spending money on decorations that no one wants and will be depressingly ironic at best?

And isn't she on tape saying she hates this too?

She hates irony? I think that ship has sailed.

I think it is a reasonable conclusion - she has to loathe herself at this point. She is a parody of a first lady married to a parody of President living a parody of a marriage.

[Remus West]

It's not their money.

Well, yeah, exactly. Why are we spending money on decorations that no one wants and will be depressingly ironic at best?

And isn't she on tape saying she hates this too?

She hates irony? I think that ship has sailed.

I think it is a reasonable conclusion - she has to loathe herself at this point. She is a parody of a first lady married to a parody of President living a parody of a marriage.

I think it gives her too much credit to call the marriage a parody. I think she is full on part of this mess. What has she done to mitigate a single piece of the damage versus what has she done to exacerbate it? She is as much a shitpile as he is.

[YellowKing]

Yeah I've never had much sympathy for Melania. She may loathe Trump in private, but she has done nothing but enable him in public. And she's been an absolute joke of a First Lady. If she had a shred of actual decency, she could have embraced the role and tried to do some good with her position. Instead we got some half-hearted anti-bullying bullshit and public displays of non-affection.

[malchior]

Yeah I've never had much sympathy for Melania. She may loathe Trump in private, but she has done nothing but enable him in public. And she's been an absolute joke of a First Lady. If she had a shred of actual decency, she could have embraced the role and tried to do some good with her position. Instead we got some half-hearted anti-bullying bullshit and public displays of non-affection.

Don't take my comment above to be pulling a punch from Melania. She is trash. She fits in perfectly with this garbage pile of a family. The whole anti-bullying stuff is a great example of that and will be easy pickings for future historians. The clear hypocrisy involved will pretty much write itself.

[LordMortis]

I began with sympathy but it began rapid evaporation with with the theft of Michelle Obama's speech while her husband was making his butter attacking Barrack and promising to tear down all traces of Barrack's presidency. I don't remember when it completely vanished. My instincts tell me it was when she made a nearly $200,000 tax payer funded day trip to Toronto.

There Internet tells me she made it until November 2018 before the last of my fucks were given and no more were left in the bag.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/melania- ... 2bd589a8d2

[Alefroth]

Like a few of us were just mentioning in the investment thread... Doesn't feel right. In any event, the Dow hitting ATH is great for a small percentage of America, but it's minor news for most during the pandemic.

[Edit - Also, it's almost as through DJT hasn't made the connection to the fact that it's news that he's really, truly, for realz this time on his way out that helped spur these recent gains.]

He gave a press conference just to announce a DOW record? What an absolute bawbag.

[malchior]

Maybe he thought now everyone would beg him to stay?

[Jaymann]

El Douchebag is going to speak with Rudy (can fail) in PA tomorrow. PA has already certified their vote so must be a grifting of America.

[Tao]

El Douchebag is going to speak with Rudy (can fail) in PA tomorrow. PA has already certified their vote so must be a grifting of America.

I read several days ago that one of the PAC's, think it was Make America Great Again, which was asking for donations to fight the election results is now allocating 75% for another leadership PAC. On the surface it looks like the money is being redirected to another PAC, Save America, but the fine print states the money can be used at the discretion of the leadership PAC including personal expenses.

[Jaymann]

Looks like the Trump campaign stiffed the city of El Paso. Another state Agolf can't visit.

[Holman]

He gave a press conference just to announce a DOW record? What an absolute bawbag.

This "press conference" was announced on just a few minutes' notice and lasted literally one minute. He walked out, took credit for the stock market, and left the room. He took no questions.

[Jaymann]

Trump’s planned trip to PA is off after a member of the campaign tested positive.

Lives to grift another day.

[RunningMn9]

Looks like the Trump campaign stiffed the city of El Paso. Another state Agolf can't visit.

It’s not like they have anything going on where that money might come in handy.

[Skinypupy]

"Insane" is one way to describe it. "Incredibly dangerous" would be another. "Deranged" would be yet another.

Even four years in, it’s insane that the president can retweet something as unhinged as this and have it barely register.

This is the "Kraken" derpspew that he's amplifying to a million brainless MAGAs.

[El Guapo]

So how does Kraken here fit in with this far-reaching conspiracy? Has he been a deep cover agent all this time?

[Blackhawk]

So how does Kraken here fit in with this far-reaching conspiracy? Has he been a deep cover agent all this time?

He probably fits in by reconsidering 'Ironrod.'

[Holman]

Here’s one for the Self-Ownage Hall of Fame:

[malchior]

El Douchebag is going to speak with Rudy (can fail) in PA tomorrow. PA has already certified their vote so must be a grifting of America.

Trump backed out. I won't read anything into it other than I hope it is because he is having a tantrum.

[Smoove_B]

Trump backed out. I won't read anything into it other than I hope it is because he is having a tantrum.

They demanded payment and/or a large non-refundable deposit up front - it's his kryptonite.

[Jaymann]

That ifea was febunked fecades ago.

[El Guapo]

So how does Kraken here fit in with this far-reaching conspiracy? Has he been a deep cover agent all this time?

He probably fits in by reconsidering 'Ironrod.'

How does his name change from Ironrod to Kraken fit in with the timeline of the development of the Kraken cyberwarfare weapon?

We really need to put someone here on digging through the evidence here. I bet it goes ALL THE WAY TO THE TOP.