The Former Trump Presidency Thread

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:25 am

Captain Caveman wrote:Trump just talked to the press, endorsed DACA, then said the wall would be handled later.

Cats are loving dogs, man. The world's gone topsy-turvey.

Reminder to Trump immigration voters.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:35 am

It's amazing that it's in play that Trump could wind up strengthening several of Obama's key policies and initiatives that he railed against. If this DACA framework deal goes through, he'll have taken a reversible executive policy (*hated* by his base) and transformed it into essentially permanent statutory law.

And on the ACA - unless an unlikely (though not impossible) reversal happens on repeal, just surviving uniform Republican rule makes it more likely to endure in something like its current form. Plus there are some bipartisan fixes to the law that may wind up passing (possibly including something requiring Trump to make the insurer payments that he is trying to destabilize the market with).

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Thu Sep 14, 2017 10:08 am

Breitbart is almost nothing but outrage over Trump lately.

You backed a horse that thinks the finish line can be reached by going in any direction. What did you expect? Loyalty?

p.s. Breitbart's truly is a racist piece of trash. one of their articles rails against a Superman comic in which he protects a group of immigrants from being shot by a white supremacist. They should just go ahead and merge with Stormfront so they can optimize the hate.

LawBeefaroni · Post by **LawBeefaroni** » Thu Sep 14, 2017 10:19 am

hepcat wrote:Breitbart is almost nothing but outrage over Trump lately.

You backed a horse that thinks the finish line can be reached by going in any direction. What did you expect? Loyalty?

With approval ratings in the low 30s, you do whatever you can. I'm sure Jarvanka has encouraged him not to push that down into the 20s.

Sepiche · Post by **Sepiche** » Thu Sep 14, 2017 11:08 am

El Guapo wrote:(*hated* by his base)

That's certainly the common wisdom, and the dregs of the right like Ann Coulter will certainly make a lot of noise over it, but a recent poll shows 68 percent of Trump's base supports protections for dreamers.

In last week’s poll, 24 percent of Republicans thought DACA recipients should be deported; this week, 20 percent think Congress should codify that policy. Two-thirds of self-identified Trump voters wanted these immigrants to be allowed to stay in last week’s survey, and 68 percent of Trump voters want Congress to pass legislation that lets them remain in the U.S. in the new poll.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Thu Sep 14, 2017 11:12 am

...and 78 percent of Breitbart readers want Superman to kill them.

tgb · Post by **tgb** » Thu Sep 14, 2017 11:42 am

Isn't Supes a Dreamer, since he was sent here as a baby through no doings of his own?

I'd still like to know how that Wonder Woman got into the country, though.

Kraken · Post by **Kraken** » Thu Sep 14, 2017 11:57 am

El Guapo wrote:
Captain Caveman wrote:Trump just talked to the press, endorsed DACA, then said the wall would be handled later.

Cats are loving dogs, man. The world's gone topsy-turvey.
Reminder to Trump immigration voters.

And backstabbing. Don't forget backstabbing.

Freyland · Post by **Freyland** » Thu Sep 14, 2017 12:48 pm

tgb wrote:
I'd still like to know how that Wonder Woman got into the country, though.

Short skirt, I think.
Or invisible plane, whatever.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Thu Sep 14, 2017 12:59 pm

Freyland wrote:
tgb wrote:
I'd still like to know how that Wonder Woman got into the country, though.
Short skirt, I think.
Or invisible plane, whatever.

The first one helped Melania get citizenship AND a husband.

Defiant · Post by **Defiant** » Thu Sep 14, 2017 2:20 pm

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Thu Sep 14, 2017 2:21 pm

tgb · Post by **tgb** » Thu Sep 14, 2017 2:33 pm

I don't get it.

TheMix · Post by **TheMix** » Thu Sep 14, 2017 2:39 pm

tgb wrote:I don't get it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V_(1983_miniseries)

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Thu Sep 14, 2017 2:39 pm

tgb wrote:I don't get it.

Don't get Milania looking like Diana from V?
Don't get the reference to V?
Don't get what V was about?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V_(franchise)

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Thu Sep 14, 2017 3:38 pm

Donald Trump wrote:Spoke to President of Mexico to give condolences on terrible earthquake. Unable to reach for 3 days b/c of his cell phone reception at site.

Does anyone actually believe the US president couldn't get a message to the Mexican president for three days?

Pyperkub · Post by **Pyperkub** » Thu Sep 14, 2017 4:00 pm

hepcat wrote:Breitbart is almost nothing but outrage over Trump lately.

You backed a horse that thinks the finish line can be reached by going in any direction. What did you expect? Loyalty?

p.s. Breitbart's truly is a racist piece of trash. one of their articles rails against a Superman comic in which he protects a group of immigrants from being shot by a white supremacist. They should just go ahead and merge with Stormfront so they can optimize the hate.

It's also that the base audience for BB, Rush and the others want the furthest conservative wing of the GOP to Rule the country rather than Governing a diverse country. Trump (especially with Bannon as strategist and Priebus as Chief of Staff) bought into this, and it has left the first 8 months of his Presidency with minimal accomplishments.

With Kelly on board, Trump seems to maybe have picked up on that problem with the GOP, at least evidenced by his current strategy of bypassing McConnel/Ryan/the Freedom Caucus and their inability to get anything done in favor of Schumer and Pelosi and their ability to deliver something.

Defiant · Post by **Defiant** » Thu Sep 14, 2017 4:04 pm

Holman wrote:

Donald Trump wrote:Spoke to President of Mexico to give condolences on terrible earthquake. Unable to reach for 3 days b/c of his cell phone reception at site.
Does anyone actually believe the US president couldn't get a message to the Mexican president for three days?

Sure. "Who is that? TSHTSHTSHTSH! You're breaking up TSHTSHTSHTSH! Why not try back in several days? TSHTSHTSH! or never..."

I might pull the same trick if I got a call from Trump.

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Thu Sep 14, 2017 4:06 pm

New phone whodis?
...
Can't talk. No signal. BRB.

wonderpug · Post by **wonderpug** » Thu Sep 14, 2017 4:20 pm

Holman wrote:

Donald Trump wrote:Spoke to President of Mexico to give condolences on terrible earthquake. Unable to reach for 3 days b/c of his cell phone reception at site.
Does anyone actually believe the US president couldn't get a message to the Mexican president for three days?

We're sorry, but the recipient has blocked your phone number and your call cannot be completed.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Thu Sep 14, 2017 4:26 pm

Does anyone believe he dials his own phone?

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Thu Sep 14, 2017 4:27 pm

Given his tweet proficiency, I'm sure dialing is within his capabilities.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Thu Sep 14, 2017 4:34 pm

The covfefe you say!

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Thu Sep 14, 2017 4:36 pm

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Fri Sep 15, 2017 7:24 am

Fucking Moron wrote:I never even knew a Category 5 existed.

Let that one sink in.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Fri Sep 15, 2017 7:39 am

He also went back to talking about Charlottesville.

This time, though, he slipped and referred to the anti-racists as people "on the other side."

LawBeefaroni · Post by **LawBeefaroni** » Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:22 am

malchior wrote:
Fucking Moron wrote:I never even knew a Category 5 existed.
Let that one sink in.

Katrina was fake news, after all.

Rip · Post by **Rip** » Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:29 am

Yea, that isn't what he said at all.

And on Thursday in Florida, before his comments aboard Air Force One about climate change, Trump said the people of Florida experienced something "the likes of which we can say really say nobody's ever seen before."

"They've never seen a category like this come in because it came in really at a five," he said.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/14/politics/ ... index.html

He is obviously talking about being a cat5 all the way to landfall.

Kind of kills the buzz of when he actually does say stupid shit.

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:38 am

Is Amy Fiscus someone I am supposed to know and trust as a source?

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:40 am

If the president doesn't think he's needs to be held accountable for what he says, I can't imagine there is any reason the "press" should be.

edit: I put in some " marks after LM's question, just because it's fun.

AWS260 · Post by **AWS260** » Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:46 am

Rip wrote:Yea, that isn't what he said at all.

And on Thursday in Florida, before his comments aboard Air Force One about climate change, Trump said the people of Florida experienced something "the likes of which we can say really say nobody's ever seen before."

"They've never seen a category like this come in because it came in really at a five," he said.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/14/politics/ ... index.html

He is obviously talking about being a cat5 all the way to landfall.

Kind of kills the buzz of when he actually does say stupid shit.

Well, he did say those words (the pool report is from later, at the White House), but he was clearly being rhetorical to highlight the historic nature of the storm.

LawBeefaroni · Post by **LawBeefaroni** » Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:50 am

Rip wrote:Yea, that isn't what he said at all.

And on Thursday in Florida, before his comments aboard Air Force One about climate change, Trump said the people of Florida experienced something "the likes of which we can say really say nobody's ever seen before."

"They've never seen a category like this come in because it came in really at a five," he said.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/14/politics/ ... index.html

He is obviously talking about being a cat5 all the way to landfall.

Kind of kills the buzz of when he actually does say stupid shit.

This is still stupid shit.
Can't he just say something plainly? What should be a simple sentence needs translation.

They've never seen a category like this come in because it came in really at a five.

This kind of word salad is typical of someone who doesn't know what they're talking about.

LawBeefaroni · Post by **LawBeefaroni** » Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:56 am

Also, the "never knew it existed" quote comes from the Miami Herald apparently so maybe in addition to his mushy statement he did also say it.

“I never even knew a Category 5 existed,” the president told reporters at the White House Thursday, at a reception following his return from Florida where at least 26 people have been killed by the massive storm, according to the Miami Herald.

Not that it matters that much, even his "acceptable" statement, even after RipTranslate, is still a bunch of rubbish.

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:59 am

Rip wrote:Yea, that isn't what he said at all.

And on Thursday in Florida, before his comments aboard Air Force One about climate change, Trump said the people of Florida experienced something "the likes of which we can say really say nobody's ever seen before."

"They've never seen a category like this come in because it came in really at a five," he said.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/14/politics/ ... index.html

He is obviously talking about being a cat5 all the way to landfall.

Kind of kills the buzz of when he actually does say stupid shit.

The quote Amy Fiscus reported was reported by multiple sources as off the cuff remarks - hence per the pool. Amy Fiscus is only the Washington national security editor of the NY Times so I'm sure she was just making it up.

Carpet_pissr · Post by **Carpet_pissr** » Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:59 am

Shocked that "I never knew a Cat 5 existed" wasn't preceded by "not many people know this, but"

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Fri Sep 15, 2017 9:01 am

LawBeefaroni wrote:Can't he just say something plainly?

Wouldn't that be nice? Sadly, so far being incapable of saying something plainly seems to have worked out for him so far.

Look no further than his twitter storm this morning. Apologize for untruth!

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Fri Sep 15, 2017 9:05 am

I appreciate the bare minimum effort to try to disprove it. A microcosm of the intellectual rigor of many who elected this fucking moron.

Max Peck · Post by **Max Peck** » Fri Sep 15, 2017 9:08 am

LordMortis wrote:Is Amy Fiscus someone I am supposed to know and trust as a source?

She claims to be a "New York Times national security editor" so I would surmise that your propensity to trust her would be predicated on your opinion of the failing New York #Fake Times.

It really doesn't matter though, because she's not the source for the quote. It came from the press pool that accompanied Trump on the Florida photo-op junket.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Fri Sep 15, 2017 9:31 am

malchior wrote:I appreciate the bare minimum effort to try to disprove it. A microcosm of the intellectual rigor of many who elected this fucking moron.

Rip the Trump Whisperer isn't being paid nearly enough by the WH. He really is a trooper. He makes Sanders look positively hostile to the Mangerine.

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Fri Sep 15, 2017 10:26 am

Max Peck wrote:
LordMortis wrote:Is Amy Fiscus someone I am supposed to know and trust as a source?
She claims to be a "New York Times national security editor" so I would surmise that your propensity to trust her would be predicated on your opinion of the failing New York #Fake Times.
.

I'm pretty sure it's the New York part that is fake. Or maybe just York. Or possibly New. It's hard to follow an insane man's whims.