The Former Trump Presidency Thread

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Thu Jun 20, 2019 7:36 am

tjg_marantz wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 1:07 am Pence won't be around for 2020. Trump/Graham. Trump/McConnell.

Trump/Trump is his most fervent wish.

Max Peck · Post by **Max Peck** » Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:26 am

It's weird that the Trump administration is working so hard to fuck up the agency responsible for conducting security clearance background checks.

Top secret: Trump's revamp of U.S. security clearances stumbling - officials, report

At a time when the United States says China is aggressively spying on its government, a push by President Donald Trump to fix the system that determines who can and cannot be trusted with secrets is behind schedule and disorganized, according to U.S. officials and an internal agency report.

While the process for security clearance background checks has been broken for years, the Republican Trump administration delayed starting a revamp for months, said Senator Mark Warner, the top Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee.

With a June 24 deadline for the U.S. Office of Personnel Management (OPM) to begin transferring thousands of employees and contractors to the Department of Defense under Trump’s plan, it is unclear when the overhaul will be completed, said four government sources who requested anonymity.

Donald Trump team threatens to lay off employees if Congress doesn't eliminate agency

President Donald Trump's administration is threatening to furlough or lay off up to 150 employees at the Office of Personnel Management if Congress does not agree to eliminate the federal agency or find a new way to pay for the positions.

Members of Congress who oppose the administration's plan to kill off OPM and move its functions elsewhere called the plan an effort to intimidate lawmakers and contend it is an attack on federal workers' rights.

"After realizing they were not going to prevail on the merits of the proposal, the Trump Administration is taking 150 federal employees hostage unless we consent to a plan that has no rationale," said Rep. Gerald E. Connolly, D-Va.

Connolly, who chairs a government operations subcommittee that has jurisdiction over the agency, called the break-up plan "nothing more than a political gambit to give the White House control of our longstanding merit-based civil service system.”

Trump administration officials said furloughs and possibly layoffs may be necessary because the personnel agency is losing revenue after the transfer of one of its core functions: conducting background checks on prospective federal employees.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:48 am

tjg_marantz wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 1:07 am Pence won't be around for 2020. Trump/Graham. Trump/McConnell.

Reporters noted that at Trump's big Orlando rally (officially the kick-off of his 2020 campaign), all the official signs said "Trump 2020" rather than "Trump/Pence 2020."

Post by **ImLawBoy** » Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:51 am

hepcat wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 7:36 am
tjg_marantz wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 1:07 am Pence won't be around for 2020. Trump/Graham. Trump/McConnell.
Trump/Trump is his most fervent wish.

We're talking politics here, not that kind of fantasy.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:58 am

Max Peck wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:26 am It's weird that the Trump administration is working so hard to fuck up the agency responsible for conducting security clearance background checks.

Top secret: Trump's revamp of U.S. security clearances stumbling - officials, report
At a time when the United States says China is aggressively spying on its government, a push by President Donald Trump to fix the system that determines who can and cannot be trusted with secrets is behind schedule and disorganized, according to U.S. officials and an internal agency report.

While the process for security clearance background checks has been broken for years, the Republican Trump administration delayed starting a revamp for months, said Senator Mark Warner, the top Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee.

With a June 24 deadline for the U.S. Office of Personnel Management (OPM) to begin transferring thousands of employees and contractors to the Department of Defense under Trump’s plan, it is unclear when the overhaul will be completed, said four government sources who requested anonymity.
Donald Trump team threatens to lay off employees if Congress doesn't eliminate agency
President Donald Trump's administration is threatening to furlough or lay off up to 150 employees at the Office of Personnel Management if Congress does not agree to eliminate the federal agency or find a new way to pay for the positions.

Members of Congress who oppose the administration's plan to kill off OPM and move its functions elsewhere called the plan an effort to intimidate lawmakers and contend it is an attack on federal workers' rights.

"After realizing they were not going to prevail on the merits of the proposal, the Trump Administration is taking 150 federal employees hostage unless we consent to a plan that has no rationale," said Rep. Gerald E. Connolly, D-Va.

Connolly, who chairs a government operations subcommittee that has jurisdiction over the agency, called the break-up plan "nothing more than a political gambit to give the White House control of our longstanding merit-based civil service system.”

Trump administration officials said furloughs and possibly layoffs may be necessary because the personnel agency is losing revenue after the transfer of one of its core functions: conducting background checks on prospective federal employees.

That's scary shit. That sure looks like an effort to get the federal bureaucracy more under Trump's personal control.

milo · Post by **milo** » Thu Jun 20, 2019 4:27 pm

Well, yes. That's how authoritarians work.

pr0ner · Post by **pr0ner** » Fri Jun 21, 2019 4:41 pm

What in the actual fuck?

Defiant · Post by **Defiant** » Fri Jun 21, 2019 4:54 pm

I was just about to post that.

I do admit I lol-ed when it turned into EEEE.

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Fri Jun 21, 2019 5:08 pm

Does Trump fancy himself Peer Gynt or Mountain King in this?

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:34 pm

I’m sure he doesn’t realize that was not meant to be complimentary.

Zaxxon · Post by **Zaxxon** » Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:37 pm

Seriously, though, tweeting that edited version should really be grounds for removal immediately. That's about as brazen a disregard for the integrity of the office as can be.

Of course, we live in the upside-down now, so no GOP person will even bat an eyelash.

pr0ner · Post by **pr0ner** » Fri Jun 21, 2019 10:20 pm

Zaxxon wrote: ↑Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:37 pm Seriously, though, tweeting that edited version should really be grounds for removal immediately. That's about as brazen a disregard for the integrity of the office as can be.

Of course, we live in the upside-down now, so no GOP person will even bat an eyelash.

Not even the first time this week he's suggested staying in office beyond what is constitutionally allowed.

Pyperkub · Post by **Pyperkub** » Sun Jun 23, 2019 2:42 pm

pr0ner wrote:
Zaxxon wrote: ↑Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:37 pm Seriously, though, tweeting that edited version should really be grounds for removal immediately. That's about as brazen a disregard for the integrity of the office as can be.

Of course, we live in the upside-down now, so no GOP person will even bat an eyelash.
Not even the first time this week he's suggested staying in office beyond what is constitutionally allowed.

Tbh, he's just doing this to pwn teh libs. It is 100% trolling, IMHO, and not to be taken seriously.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Sun Jun 23, 2019 4:03 pm

Pyperkub wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2019 2:42 pm
pr0ner wrote:
Zaxxon wrote: ↑Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:37 pm Seriously, though, tweeting that edited version should really be grounds for removal immediately. That's about as brazen a disregard for the integrity of the office as can be.

Of course, we live in the upside-down now, so no GOP person will even bat an eyelash.
Not even the first time this week he's suggested staying in office beyond what is constitutionally allowed.
Tbh, he's just doing this to pwn teh libs. It is 100% trolling, IMHO, and not to be taken seriously.

Although even a flirtation with flouting laws and norms prepares the ground for when he really does break them.

Drazzil · Post by **Drazzil** » Sun Jun 23, 2019 4:58 pm

Holman wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2019 4:03 pm
Pyperkub wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2019 2:42 pm
pr0ner wrote:
Zaxxon wrote: ↑Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:37 pm Seriously, though, tweeting that edited version should really be grounds for removal immediately. That's about as brazen a disregard for the integrity of the office as can be.

Of course, we live in the upside-down now, so no GOP person will even bat an eyelash.

Not even the first time this week he's suggested staying in office beyond what is constitutionally allowed.
Tbh, he's just doing this to pwn teh libs. It is 100% trolling, IMHO, and not to be taken seriously.
Although even a flirtation with flouting laws and norms prepares the ground for when he really does break them.

+1

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Mon Jun 24, 2019 11:51 am

hepcat wrote: ↑Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:34 pm I’m sure he doesn’t realize that was not meant to be complimentary.

So apparently I was wrong. It was created by a Trump supporter.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Tue Jun 25, 2019 8:55 pm

Stephanie Grisham is the new Sarah Huckabee Sanders.

Obviously she got the job because she lies like a pro.

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Wed Jun 26, 2019 10:00 am

Donald Trump, today: “Twitter is just terrible, what they do. They don’t let you get the word out.”

President Donald Trump lambasted Twitter, Google and other technology giants on Wednesday for what he sees as their efforts to repress his messaging and public commentary.

“Twitter is just terrible, what they do. They don’t let you get the word out,” Trump told Fox Business Network. “I’ll tell you what, they should be sued because what’s happening with the bias — and now you see it with that executive yesterday from Google. The hatred for the Republicans: It’s not even like ‘Gee! Let’s lean Democrat.’”

“These people are all Democrats, it’s totally biased toward Democrats. If I announced tomorrow that I’m going to become a nice liberal Democrat, I would pick up five times more followers,” he said. Twitter’s shares took a temporary hit in premarket trading as the president spoke.

“What they did to me on Twitter is incredible,” he said. “I have millions and millions of followers, but I will tell you, they make it very hard for people to join me in Twitter and they make it very much harder for me to get out the message.”

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Wed Jun 26, 2019 10:27 am

Donald Kardashian

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Wed Jun 26, 2019 10:47 am

The whole interview is just nuts.

Thread:

LawBeefaroni · Post by **LawBeefaroni** » Wed Jun 26, 2019 10:53 am

Oh, Maria. Me and Joey still think you're the best.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Wed Jun 26, 2019 12:23 pm

TRUMP: "Europe treats us worse than China. Europe is -- you know, look, I come from Europe ... European nations were set up to take advantage of the United States."

New York City is in Europe apparently.

Jeff V · Post by **Jeff V** » Wed Jun 26, 2019 12:54 pm

hepcat wrote: ↑Wed Jun 26, 2019 12:23 pm
TRUMP: "Europe treats us worse than China. Europe is -- you know, look, I come from Europe ... European nations were set up to take advantage of the United States."
New York City is in Europe apparently.

If he's from Europe, then he can't legally be president. No wonder he never gave up on the Obama birth certificate thing...he was trying to deflect attention from his own ineligibility!

$iljanus · Post by **$iljanus** » Wed Jun 26, 2019 1:08 pm

hepcat wrote:
TRUMP: "Europe treats us worse than China. Europe is -- you know, look, I come from Europe ... European nations were set up to take advantage of the United States."
New York City is in Europe apparently.

He's from the fascist part of Europe.

Kraken · Post by **Kraken** » Wed Jun 26, 2019 1:17 pm

TRUMP: "Europe treats us worse than China. Europe is -- you know, look, I come from Europe ... European nations were set up to take advantage of the United States."

The Marshall Plan was Obama's biggest sellout.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Wed Jun 26, 2019 1:20 pm

Trump told Archduke Franz Ferdinand that the Black Hand was out to get him the day before he was shot. But does the press bring that up? Do they give Trump the credit he deserves for trying to avert WW1? Noooooo. They'd rather point out he wasn't even born yet.

Jeff V · Post by **Jeff V** » Thu Jun 27, 2019 2:13 pm

hepcat wrote: ↑Wed Jun 26, 2019 1:20 pm Trump told Archduke Franz Ferdinand that the Black Hand was out to get him the day before he was shot. But does the press bring that up? Do they give Trump the credit he deserves for trying to avert WW1? Noooooo. They'd rather point out he wasn't even born yet.

This belongs in the Alt-facts thread. There, Trump could have prevented WWI, cured cancer, and been the first human to walk on the surface of Uranus and it would be all perfectly legitimate.

Freyland · Post by **Freyland** » Thu Jun 27, 2019 2:19 pm

Jeff V wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 2:13 pm
hepcat wrote: ↑Wed Jun 26, 2019 1:20 pm Trump told Archduke Franz Ferdinand that the Black Hand was out to get him the day before he was shot. But does the press bring that up? Do they give Trump the credit he deserves for trying to avert WW1? Noooooo. They'd rather point out he wasn't even born yet.
This belongs in the Alt-facts thread. There, Trump could have prevented WWI, cured cancer, and been the first human to walk on the surface of Uranus and it would be all perfectly legitimate.

Trump has never walked on the surface of my anus, but certainly resembles the transitory contents of one.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Fri Jun 28, 2019 8:37 am

Scenes from Donald Trump's press conference with Putin.

Come for the open mockery of election interference, stay for the shared hatred of journalists.

thread:

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Fri Jun 28, 2019 8:55 am

hepcat wrote: ↑Wed Jun 26, 2019 12:23 pm
TRUMP: "Europe treats us worse than China. Europe is -- you know, look, I come from Europe ... European nations were set up to take advantage of the United States."
New York City is in Europe apparently.

I'm trying to parse this - does he mean they were set up to take advantage of the United States anticipating that when it would eventually be founded in their future it would be full of cucks to be dominated? Or did some genius mastermind trick them into taking advantage of the United States. I want to get this right because the response to both is drastically different.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Fri Jun 28, 2019 9:02 am

Besides changing his place of birth, father's place of birth, names of his children and wives to suit whatever occasion he's at, I wouldn't look for any actual logic in whatever the idiot says. It's been a known fact for decades that he'll expound for hours on stuff he has no knowledge of whatsoever, if given the chance.

Jeff V · Post by **Jeff V** » Fri Jun 28, 2019 9:06 am

Holman wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2019 8:37 am Scenes from Donald Trump's press conference with Putin.

Come for the open mockery of election interference, stay for the shared hatred of journalists.

thread:

Actually, he's just telling Vlad "Pull my finger." The sound was dubbed on this one.

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Fri Jun 28, 2019 9:36 am

While I'm sure this isn't exclusive to Trump, I thought it was funny.

He's apparently shooting for the ever-critical "stock photo model" demographic.

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Fri Jun 28, 2019 1:54 pm

Our President, smiling and happy over the death of a senator. This is normal.

Blackhawk · Post by **Blackhawk** » Fri Jun 28, 2019 2:08 pm

I was expecting him to follow up with 'Too bad more of them aren't gone.' It would fit with his established pattern.

$iljanus · Post by **$iljanus** » Fri Jun 28, 2019 2:11 pm

Smoove_B wrote:Our President, smiling and happy over the death of a senator. This is normal.

I'm sure this is the thing that goes over well with the lock her up crowd.

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Fri Jun 28, 2019 9:43 pm

In which the President of the United States begs for a meeting with the dictator of a hostile nation via Twitter.

JFC, how far we have fallen.

Kraken · Post by **Kraken** » Fri Jun 28, 2019 10:23 pm

He also joked with Putin about getting rid of journalists and shared a laugh about election meddling.

On the plus side, I read that Trump has no interest in expanding his base, believing that they carried him to victory once and will do it again (with Putin's help, obviously) as long as he can keep them frothing at the mouth. We'll see how that works out for him.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Sat Jun 29, 2019 6:47 am

"Mr. Trump, you're standing on the edge of a strip of land with almost 2 million landmines...we urge you to just run through it."

-Everyone who really loves America

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Sat Jun 29, 2019 11:00 am

That busing answer has to indicate cognitive decline. There's no way a guy who was a *racist real-estate developer* in the 1970s couldn't have known the term back then.

This was shortly before or after he told a Russian TV reporter that Putin was a "great guy" and told another reporter that MBS was "a friend of mine."